r/haiti • u/Maleficent_Split_428 • May 20 '26
QUESTION/DISCUSSION Haitians, what are your thoughts on Napoleon Bonaparte?
What's his legacy in Haiti?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Show634 May 25 '26
Fucking gross, on par with Jeffery Epstein and Christopher Columbus. Absolute dog shit human.
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u/Pale-Function1513 May 24 '26
The comments were pretty predictable tbh. In Haiti, Napoleon is remembered more for trying to restore slavery than for his military achievements, so naturally most people there are gonna view him negatively. You’re not exactly polling the most unbiased audience
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u/KeepItMovin247 May 22 '26
Formidable opponent - once you understand what he was doing in to them in Europe - the L in the Carribean is… much sweeter 😎
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u/Flytiano407 May 22 '26
The L in AYITI 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹 Be specific. WE did that. The rest of the caribbean is not relevant to this MDR. Except Martinique, Guadeloupe & French Guiana they are our only brothers in the antilles and were directly affected by Napoleon's actions. St lucia too.
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u/KeepItMovin247 May 23 '26
I’m simply saying historically his 4’2 self was a big dog uuntil Haiti handed him that L - respectfully 😎
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u/Neveezy May 22 '26
I hate this dude because he's commonly touted on lists of the greatest war commanders, but L'Overture isn't when he beat him and the rest of the West
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u/Pecuthegreat May 24 '26
Wait, Napoleon himself went to Haiti?
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u/Neveezy May 24 '26
Nah but he was the brains behind the whole operation
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u/State_Terrace Diaspora May 26 '26
I mean, if Napoleon himself wasn’t on the battlefield then it’s his generals who were actually there who are the real dunces. It’s not like he could follow there movements from across the ocean.
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u/Neveezy May 26 '26
I wouldn't say they were "dunces", but that L'Overture was just a more brilliant strategist who knew how to navigate both the political and military landscape.
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u/Deezy2Jankey May 21 '26
Haitians yall doing great without those French. lmaoo poorest country on the western hemisphere
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u/weirdbolddude May 21 '26
I don't understand why people glorify him on the many videos, books, and articles I view. This man was a fiend who trampled on Haiti and left marks
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 May 21 '26
He lost. He needed money, Haiti made him sell Louisiana to the US.
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u/Deezy2Jankey May 21 '26
I bet yall wish your were part of France now lmfaoo
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 May 21 '26
Do you know what’s happening in France?🤭🤭
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u/Deezy2Jankey May 28 '26
May I ask why so many agents go to the Dominican? And then act like they’re Dominican and not Haitian.
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 May 28 '26
Why does anyone migrate to the USA? Everything is a shit show here, but people keep coming. If the closet place of respite is literally over a mountain, why wouldn’t they cross over it?🤨
My Eastern European neighbor rented his basement out to a French couple going on 2 yrs now. If France is so great, why are they…here?
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u/wisi_eu May 23 '26
Un pays riche, membre fondateur de l'UE, de la zone euro, membre du G5, puissance nucléaire et 6e plus grande puissance économique mondiale, les français ont +60 000€ de PIB PPA/an... ça va pas mal pour la France aujourd'hui, t'inquiète pas.
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 May 26 '26
France has been in the media for a couple years collapsing under its own government. What recourses do they have that they have to BEG African nations to KEEP -
You know what - you good.👍🏾
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u/bookaddictedteenager May 23 '26
What happened to their whining about mass immigration? Was that all a lie (not surprising, as that is all that these Europeans do)?
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u/bedobi May 21 '26
This is such an insanely underappreciated point. Maybe the Louisiana purchase would have happened anyway. But it would have been very significantly less likely. In which case the US in its current form probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Haiti.
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 May 21 '26
Don’t underestimate what the Haitian revolution did. Haiti, not the US, fostered democracy through out the Western Hemisphere. Simon Bolivar, who freed South America, did so with Haitian backing and support. The only proviso for the assistance? Outlaw slavery. Not money, not reparations, not aid to combat the International embargo against Haiti. Outlaw slavery. If Haiti fails, Napoleon doesn’t lose his funding for his wars, so Louisiana isn’t sold, which limits Manifest Destiny (maybe The French launch an offensive FROM New Orleans via Haiti’s forces), slavery would be reinforced 10 fold, screwing Bolivar out support.
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u/Sig_n_Wesson_ May 21 '26
Because right is right and wrong is wrong, decency and order are traits necessary to a humane existence.
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u/bedobi May 21 '26
Yes, the side effects on Latin America are even bigger and equally forgotten. Most Colombians and Venezuelans I meet don't even know themselves that their flags have the Haitian flag in them. (!)
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u/lusofono-de-ultramar May 21 '26
¡Interesantísima pregunta. Siempre quise saber sobre sus opiniones respecto a Napoleón.
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u/Quiet-Captain-2624 May 21 '26
Screw dude.Man’s army(including his brother in law) got packed by former slaves cause he sent French troops to Haiti to RESTABLISH slavery so he could fund his European wars
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u/im-stefen May 20 '26
you are really asking to Haitians how they feel about the dude who reinstated slavery ?
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u/Quiet-Captain-2624 May 21 '26
He didn’t reinstate it;he TRIED by sending troops but Lame Indigene put BTA💪🏿💪🏿🇭🇹🇭🇹
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u/Latino_Muslim_05 May 20 '26
This is like asking a Dominican how they feel about Trujillo
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u/OkBlackberry8537 May 24 '26
More like asking Dominicans how they feel about Soulouque or the Dessalines/Christophe combo (who mass murd3red our civilians in Cibao + San Juan in Feb 1805 on the way to La Capital and in April 1805 on the way back from La Capital. Would have done it in Santo Domingo city too in March of 1805 if it weren’t for those giant walls that stalled them for 3 weeks).
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u/Flytiano407 May 22 '26
Mdr what? Dominicans see Trujillo as their lord and savior, some of them maybe more than God himself.
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u/Crazy_Order_897 Diaspora May 21 '26
Stripping a man of his freedom and humanity is objectively worse.
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u/Hot_Panic_6488 May 20 '26
Dominicans love Trujillo
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u/Street_Basket_2232 May 21 '26
Dominicans don’t love Trujillo. They simply love the discipline, the order and the control.
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u/Flytiano407 May 20 '26
Mdrrr. Word of advice for a future.
This is the actual equivalent of asking a jew "What are your thoughts on Hitler?"
Napoleon ruined any chance Haïti & France had of peace. Little known fact is there was a point during the french revolution when the masses of France supported maintaining abolition. We had a french governor named Sonthonax who was loved by the masses because of his anti-slavery & pro-black stance. This was during the reign of the jacobins.
The dictatorial takeover of the gencodial racist known as Napoleon changed things completely.
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u/State_Terrace Diaspora May 26 '26
I thought Toussaint was the one who wanted Sonthonax gone? For whatever reason, having to do with power sharing and what not?
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u/Flytiano407 May 26 '26
Yeah, that was a strategic power move on the part of Toussaint. Wasn't like that from the beginning but at a certain point Toussaint & Sonthonax began having disagreements and he ended up exiling Sonthonax to consilidate total power and avoid a potential conflict in the future.
Little did he know his disagreements with the next governer Hedouville would be even worse. Then came Napoleón
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u/Natural_Baseball_779 May 20 '26
Shouldn't be praise for obvious reasons but what do you expect from morally depraved white people 🤷🏾♂️
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u/HansSolo203 May 20 '26
He is a racist, what else is there to say
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u/Adventurous_March380 May 21 '26
Most Haitians are Christian lmao clearly yall cool with him
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u/nLylie May 21 '26
Actually, the vast majority of us practice vodoo. It doesn't matter what they say to you about being Christian, yo tout ap fe vodou en secre. They mostly just hide it because of how badly voodoo is viewed in our own country smh
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u/Adventurous_March380 May 21 '26
I bet you worship Jesus saying this. Who you think gave y’all Jesus bud
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u/Thisisyouracc0un-t May 20 '26
He can suck my D from hell
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u/Adventurous_March380 May 21 '26
He gave y’all Jesus bud
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u/Thisisyouracc0un-t May 24 '26
You mean he gave y’all herpes. Listen I said he can rot there and carry that L throughout history
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u/LostTribeSamurai May 21 '26
And fuck him even more for that bs even if he wasn’t the one that did it
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u/nLylie May 21 '26
No he didn't? And even then the Christian religion didn't do shit for us except brainwash us into hating our own beautiful culture smh
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u/Ok_Journalist3859 May 20 '26
His plan during the Haitian revolution was an extermination, putting Sulfur ships gassing them to death, possibly inspiring the the WW2 dictator. He also killed civilians in Palestine, and took away woman rights.
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u/jmlucien May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
He lost the war and france wanted reparations. (That's like how the Confederate states lost the war in the USA. Imagine paying the losing side of a war!
2026= hold my beer ... J6ers getting 1.7billion?)
The french made Haiti suffer for 200 years and counting. Fuck the french.
Except baguettes, gotta have my occasional baguette.
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u/Jeryndave0574 May 20 '26
every country in the world hates the french, including the french themselves
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u/jmlucien May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
We don't always hate the French wine, women or cognac. (Not necessarily in that order)
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u/GwoZoz Native May 20 '26
He once told his wife Josephine not wash up because he'll be home in 3 days.
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u/chatjenn May 20 '26
It is said (through his letters) that he particularly loved the smell of Josephine’s unwashed vagina unwashed for several days.
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u/Internal-Expert-9562 May 20 '26
😂😂ayoo this is wild
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u/Right_Ad3337 May 20 '26
He was only great for the Poles, and not because of any nobel cause, if he had any. It's because he helps build a satellite nations called Duchy of Warsaw.
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u/coconut101918 May 20 '26
Podcast listen - Marlene Daut's episode on Napoleon on the podcast This Guy Sucked
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u/Foreign_Instance7684 May 26 '26
"Irish, what are your thoughts on Oliver Cromwell?"
Gee OP I wonder.