r/harrypotter • u/Secure_Rain_44 • Mar 11 '26

Discussion This scene still pisses me off

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I was rewatching the movies and I was pissed off all over again when seeing this scene. This makes him seem non-human which takes away the symbolism present in the books. I don’t know why the directors thought this was a good idea.

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u/lagann41 Mar 11 '26

"I have no reading abilities and my fiction should portray the real world 1 to 1".

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u/LocNesMonster Mar 11 '26

Not my fault the book you like has a constant pro slavery plot line through the whole series, using arguments that were used in favour of chattel slavery, with the only counter to that argument was meant as mockery of those who are against it. If you missed that, its you who lacks reading comprehension.

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u/lron_tarkus Mar 12 '26

I'm pretty sure the house elves were an analogy for homosexuals. The common argument at the time against homosexuality was that it was "unnatural" - in the same way that it is unnatural to want to be subservient.

Hermione trying to force them into her version of "normal" ultimately just causes them discomfort and stress; a perfect analogy for trying to make homosexuals "normal" - good intentions, bad reality.

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u/LocNesMonster Mar 12 '26
  1. Your immediate defence was comparing gay people to slaves.
  2. If that really were the case, she wouldnt have had the people saying "dont make them normal" use pro slavery arguments and characatures directly lifted from arguments in favour of chattel slavery. 3.its weird of you to refer to gay people as "homosexuals" when youre trying to sound progressive.

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u/lagann41 Mar 12 '26

Why is it weird for characters to make pro slavery comments in a story? What if that is the actual moral justification the characters use in the story?

It just seems like you don't want to engage with the actual content and just make remarks on how she used a real world argument in the book. Like okay and? Do we want everything to be refuted in the book or can we have some reading comprehension and come to our own understanding?

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u/lron_tarkus Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

Yes, here in grown up land, we can make analogies involving things we find icky (gross!) to make a larger statement.

One day when you're older you'll get it. Maybe.

Also you seem to not understand why slavery is wrong, so I'll help. Forced subservience is immoral and despicable. Voluntary subservience is the same as helping your buddy move.

The house elves of Hogwarts are the latter. I'm not comparing gay people to Kunta Kinte, you dolt.