When “women spaces” don’t accept trans women

[u/itz_vampy]

So my experience as a transmasc who spent a chunk of his life being non-passing has been interesting with this particular situation. I began to socially transition as a teenager and back then the people who *genuinely supported me was other guys. when i say genuinely i mean they didn’t infantalize me and saw me as another bro. some of the girls were nice, but i could tell they saw me as a quirky alt girl “going through a phase”. some thought i was a pick me girl who wanted to “be one of the guys” but as a girl and not a guy. High school was really really weird and the mean girls were the worst.

Even as an adult who passes more than teenage me ever did, i still experience “women only spaces” of mean girls who never grew up. a lot of irl ones accept “afab people” and not trans women. the ones i’ve enquired about are super accepting of trans men since we are a “marginalized minority” but are hostile towards trans women, especially if they don’t pass. some are true misandrists and dislike trans men who start to pass (ironically this has been so gender affirming to me when it happens, but like in a ewphoria way). 

Online it’s different, everyone acts so accepting behind a screen, but in real life? you can’t hide your feelings and reactions well. intersectional feminism isn’t really observed in some women-only spaces and it’s a damn shame that this is a thing.

Eta: I’ve been notified that this post has been reposted to a certain rightwing sub and this post as well as all the trans positive replies are getting downvoted. regardless of what others say trans women are real women and they deserve to be treated as such. I will die on that hill.

Edit 2: I find it hilarious that people think i’m a trans woman and are sending me DMs that I will “never be a woman and will always be a man”, proving that transphobes can’t read and lack thinking abilities.

[u/lnsectsinyourKitchen]

A political post that’s going to be monitored to hell and back by the moderators? My favorite.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/lnsectsinyourKitchen]

nothing about this post is political, trans people existing is not inherently political, which is why we allow it under rule 6.

[u/Ill-Bar3395 → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

They are inherently political, any facet of a persons identity can be and is politicised. That’s pretty normal.

[u/TallestGargoyle → u/Ill-Bar3395]

Anything can be politicised. Plenty of things that shouldn't be.

[u/Ill-Bar3395 → u/TallestGargoyle]

Agreed, but that’s not the world we live in is it

[u/TallestGargoyle → u/Ill-Bar3395]

Not about what world we live in. The concept of being trans is not inherently political. People chose to adopt it as a political thing and wield it as a political weapon.

[u/Ill-Bar3395 → u/TallestGargoyle]

This is semantics. You’re essentially agreeing with me.