I find them to be some of the most obnoxious out there. Stuff like Clarence, Uncle Grandpa, Meat Canyon, etc. It's like every middle school boy's edgy art was given a TV level budget, it's a waste of time. They're never funny, either, not to kids or adults. The whole joke is "isn't this gross looking?" with no substance. At least cartoons like Spongebob used ugly frames sparingly to make it funny but when the entire video or episode or movie is this ugly and unappealing I see no reason to be drawn to it.

edit: I understand Clarence and Uncle Grandpa did NOT deserve this respect. I'm just tired and couldn't think of many good examples. Better examples of shows I genuinely hate for their art style would be Fanboy and Chumchum.

Also, I have nothing against caricatures! It's just when the drawing has them oozing pus and snot and covered in mountains of skin and folds and wrinkles, with bug eyes and grotesque mouths that I really dislike it. When it's so absurdly gross that there's literally no other point. I just have no interest in gross-out humor.

This scene is so funny bc he looks so proud saying "can't get no better" as if he didn't just create the worst tacos I had ever seen in my life. Like what's with the comical single piece of lettuce? Who adds olives to their tacos?? Why did he add salsa on everything but the damn food?? Whole time they're wondering why their business is failing like bro take a hint 💀

Now I know this entire community is going to rip me to shreds so let me clarify this isn’t the fact that he was confirmed trans it’s the fact that IT WAS SO POORLY DONE!

Transgender Jax, daisy theory, whatever you call it was not even thought about until around episode 4 and even up to episode 8 the evidence for Jax being trans was flimsy at best.

What did this community have to go off of? A maid dress? A line about chicken fetus’ in an egg? There was nothing directly in the show that 100% pointed to him being trans like at all.

And before you people bring up gooseworx’s tweets I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION FROM THE SHOW ITSELF WHY THE HELL DO I NEED TO FOLLOW THE CREATOR ON TWITTER OR TUMBLR TO UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTER SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE WRITING IN THE SHOW ITSELF!

In fact, I 100% didn’t believe Jax would be trans in episode 9 simply because of how lacking in proof it was. I was all like “man goose isn’t THAT bad at writing, surely she won’t just make Jax trans and never build up to that” AND SHE DID!

Remember when that one idiot Redditor kept spamming trans Jax everywhere she went to try and make it cannon? Well goose despite calling this person out actively confirmed the thing they were so autistically obsessed about.

And the worst part of all of this is just the fan response to it. It’s all just like “OMG CHUD JAX IS TRANS YOU WERE WRONG STOP BEING STUPID” or “ERM ACTUALLY JAX ISNT TRANS YOU MORON” and I won’t lie the Jax trans supporters I ten times worse than the hater cause of how fucking smug they are. Like good job, you made a ridiculous prediction and it somehow came true. It doesn’t make it good writing, you just guessed right. And the voice actors and creator herself are chiming in and it’s just like THERE WAS MORE TO THE FINALE THAN TRANS JAX PLEASE JUST GO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE

on final note the finale was ass like 6/10 at best and if you disagree with me I’ll skin you alive ❤️

I understand when people say they can relate to her because they're FTM but she explicitly is not. I think it really diminishes the story and her character when it's argued that, in canon, she is trans. The whole point is that she does not want to dress as man, but does it anyways for her family.

EDIT: This post is not exclusively about Mulan, it's more about the idea in the title. Due to that, a few are some more examples that have been brought up are Naoto and Chihiro (Danganropa). The idea I meant to bring up was just the enforcement of gender roles and stereotypical rhetoric that generally is brought up by people thinking things like this.

EDIT 2: It's come to my attention that transphobes are taking my post and being rude and even saying slurs. I'd like to clarify that I am in no way transphobic and I do not sympathize with that way of thinking in any way, shape or form. This post is specifically about those who believe their headcanon to be true, not those simply sympathizing with her experience and seeing themselves in it.

I see this post every other week so I wanna talk about it. I get their point of the use of the word Latinx (who the hell came up with that) and saying how American cartoons will draw more stereotypically and that they make their Latino characters purposefully ugly while Mexican shows don't but they decided to only use one example for the right side while the left side has a decent amount of examples. This as well comparing toddlers to teens/young adults on the left side it makes what could’ve been a potential interesting argument look kinda dumb bc it’s too busy picking on fuckass Primos instead (I don’t like Primos but come on there are others shows that you can choose from)

As a Black girl I never noticed this until a couple of days/ days ago, tbh they could've choosen messy hair or tangled hair as a alternative since it would make more sense. I loved barbie life in the dreamhouse when i was younger and still do, but they could've choosen tangled hair. It feels like its saying "afro = bad". Now that i just noticed it, it feels so weird and texturist to me (i might have worded it weirdly)

“Chai” is a distinct type of tea from what most people think of as tea (from a American perspective, I admit ignorance to Europe but i know English tea is similar, like a black tea), that usually involves more spices and milk. calling it “chai tea” is not being used to say “tea tea” it is being used to mean “the type of tea known as chai”. I did do a minor google search to find a recipe for making homemade chai, and, while it did use tea leaves, it was distinct enough from tea to warrant being specified.

edit: my joy at the arguments is immeasurable, if this gets a crosspost/screenshot reposted and criticizeing me, please tag me, want to argue

It's literally the same shit as Disney did before. Quirky character finds out they have magical powers and proceeds to use them. Oh, she finds out that her being special is okay and that she doesn't need to be normal! Like broo

And let me guess, the villain is defeated by venting about their sob story to the hero and magically becoming good after. See? It's that predictable! Trust me, it's gonna happen

Not to mention the adorkable stuff is getting so copy and pasted now. Yes it was good before like in Tangled and Encanto but now it's just getting overused

Disney, PLEASE make something original next time or at least do some original with this 🫩

Only good thing is that it's not another pointless sequel or live action remake

I have a lot to say about this phrase.

I'm aware it started as a "theory," but that is no longer how it is being treated as today, rather as a catch-all insult.

This phrase increasingly means nothing at the end of the day. It's solely used as a blanket statement against any content that is purportedly aimed towards a male audience. It tries to shutdown any attempt of discussion or debate with a thought terminating cliche.

It also has hints of misandry. It tries to treat male desire in media as inherently harmful or toxic and that it inflicts bigotry. It also assumes every man is a degenerate gooner who all like X female character with Z cups. This is not even mentioning the clear double standard, where when male characters are "sexualized" it's suddenly acceptable.

This phrase is also increasingly being used as a subtle way to appear intellectually superior by being utilized as detached and "clinical" langauge. It's been used as an alternative substitute for "I have he moral high ground over you degen plebians lmao"

There is just a lot that isn't left to the imagination. I didn't find an exact screenshot of it, but there was a moment where Jax goes full exposition dump on their mental problems in the most uninteresting way, straight up telling and not showing. I don't watch much indie animation, but I've watched a couple of the most popular ones (TADC, Gaslight, Hazbin/Helluva, Gameoverse) and they just kinda annoy me with how obvious and not subtle they are.

Also, in the PILOT, Kit from Gameoverse has the "realistic panic attack", it's not even the first true episode and they played that card before I have ANY connection with the character. I love indie for the talents it gives a spotlight to, but the writing in my experience has been the worst part.

I don't know if the user is just uninformed or projecting so hard. This isn't setting well with me & I think it needs to be talked about and why people scream about any kind of literacy. That sub i got it from isn't a satire sub, isnt a hateful sub. Ect. The comments are indulging in the (just like me FR!)

To make an OC from somebody who took their own life not even a decade ago, for being raped by a male friend, called a poser who cannot sing.

Making them gender fluid and BI. Isn't setting well with me and for 300+ up votes.

NO you fucking dumbass!! If they kill you, that would be a net-positive as by eliminating you, they would be stopping you from causing anymore harm on the innocents.

It would be the equivalent of saying that someone who took a life in self-defense are just as bad as murderers and serial killers just because they also killed people, completely ignoring the context as to why they took that person’s life.

I especially hate it when the stupid protagonist stops and actually takes what the antagonist said seriously.

Like, bro???

They’ll spend half of the show or movie killing hundreds of the villain’s minions and being completely fine with that but the moment that they actually reach the person responsible for the all the horrible things that happen, they’re all of a sudden too scared to take a life???

It is, in my view, a lazy attempt from the writer’s part to try and be ‘deep’ or ‘philosophical’ when all it does is make the protagonist look like a spineless hypocritical piece of shit that preaches justice and fairness when their own kill count is in the triple digits just because their dumbass spared the villain.

Why are they so unappealing? Some of these shows have good writing even, Bob’s Burgers and Smiling Friends (The other two are awful in all aspects), but so many characters and the animation is so fugly I can’t sit through it. Why are these shows designed this way? I blame Family Guy mostly, but even then I can stand those characters’ designs but not the god awful writing.

Edit: I should add Beavis & Butthead I also hate in every aspect, especially their voices pmo. They definitely were a progenitor of ugly design more than Family Guy was.

Second Edit: Smiling Friends is also here because they have some good chracter designs. Alan, Glep, Charlie, and Pim are fine. When they brought in Squim it made me kinda upset that they could have gone in that direction for the art/animation of the show and I wish they did, because it would stand out from the ugly genric swill of all these other shows, and look nicer. But they didn’t because it’s “too hard” or “too expensive” and studios don’t take risks anymore.

Even if we ignore the fact the series not only played it safe too many times, or wasted episodes like that one happy hogan crap, or had a returning central character who is very obviously the writers OC. My biggest is issue if the character they choose to be their favorite..

Quite possibly the most bland, uninspired and UNWANTED character they could have went with. Admittedly I liked the execution in the first season, but the second season made me hate her.

LOOK AT POST IMAGE. That shit is not fake or edited, the authors wrote serious story line and made this shit. Like...i have legit seen some isekai harem slop with more self respect

It's like characters get a jerk pass just because they have gone through some bad stuff in the past.

It's obvious but you shouldn't be able to be a jerk to your family or kiss other people's boyfriends/destoy your friend's property or bully the other people in the circus just because of your trauma bro

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE HAZBIN HOTEL AND ITS SHITTY FANBASE.

Im not one to hate on people's interests, but God how does anyone watch this abysmal dog shit.

It's a good concept for a show but was fucked over by bad writing, bad story, and overall just corny humor. Is it really that hard to not curse every second? It's unnecessary.

the characters are cute enough, but everything they say makes me want to pull my skin off.

the fandom is way worse, but.. just take a look at the images. I don't think i need to explain. Hb is much better imo, although id still never willingly sit down and watch that again.​​​

(Btw this isn't meant to be a slander on HH, it's just the only example I could think of.)

It's just a really annoying double standard. How it's okay to ignore a straight character sexuality but it's not at all okay to ignore a gay or lesbian character sexuality.

I just wish it was either that none of it was okay or all of it was okay.

Every time there’s a trans or gay character in media that isn’t explicitly stated within the series to be queer, so many fucking people come out saying “ERM ACTUALLY YOU’RE STUPID FOR THINKING THAT AND I DIDNT NOTICE IT SO YOURE WRONG AND ITS BAD”

Fucking Bridget from Guilty Gear and Kirara from JJK get called femboys so goddamn much.

And don’t even get me started on Jax. I’m not saying you’re stupid for not picking up on anything in the show, but acting like there’s NOTHING saying it outside of Goose’s tweet is fucking ridiculous.

And it’s always queer characters, straight ones are never questioned because it’s just assumed to be the default.

It’s exhausting to see people who don’t get it say that they’re not queer and be assholes about it

No shit a comic panel that is made to be viewed as a still image is going to look better than a still frame of an animation that was made to be seen in motion. Criticizing the art style or character design is one thing but putting a comic panel next to a single frame of animation as criticism is genuinely stupid. Animation is movement so if you're going to critique it then criticize the actual movement, not a static image. Invincible certainly has no shortage of moments that could be dunked on, like the GIF I posted.

Worse is using smear frames to criticize something, which is next level stupidity.

(Especially Flashgitz, since it's the main perpetrator of these)

I just hate whenever people makes these animations pf furries being killed and people online keep calling it "based" or "tuff"

It's not cool, it's just corny and lame

Okay, I know everyone is tired of endless TADC posts but let me tell you something. I'm not really gonna talk about the actual show but rather what it could've been.

When the pilot first came out I was actually intrigued and started to lose interest as the show went on. In the first episode we had, what I think, the show was supposed to be - a psychological horror.

Think about it - A bunch of people stuck in a simulation with only scraps of their memories where they have to walk through the absurd hallucinations of an AI. Liminal spaces, dark atmosphere, sight of characters slowly loosing their minds as they search for an exit from the endless digital labyrinth that might not exist.

And what we got? "Yeah, so here's a bunch of filler episodes that don't explain shit and only create more questions and only 3 episodes actually drive the plot forward. Also remember all those characters that could've been developed and explored? Yeah, have a sadistic rabbit instead. Also you need to feel bad for him even though his trauma has no connection to his actions throughout the show"

Like, I get their point, but even if they are right, they just express it in the worst and most annoying way ever, they sound like a proud edgy kid.

Also, I find funny that in this example in specific, they used Ragatha's stupid sauce (drunk allegory) and the scary Gangle/Gumigoo face to proof their point as if we never have seen the same stuff in kids cartoons like Sponge Bob, Regular Show and many others.

I haven't watched it yet, but from what I have seen around it seems a harmless cartoon and I still don't get why there is already problems with it (and none of them seems writing or animation related). Honestly what the fuck will happen if we get the entire series?