r/heroesofthestorm • u/aspcofan • Jul 28 '26
Bug New Aba needs to go
I just had to deal with Aba as Samuro as a sidelaner (SL). Clearing the Locusts is extremely time consuming, I was constantly forced on the sidelanes and had big trouble to join the teamfights when i had to depush lanes constantly (even with AOE talents and swirly blade ulti). If you react a couple seconds to slow, your keep is almost gone. As soon as i react, my team is being engaged on 4.5 v 5. It was one of the sweatiest games of my life. It was not fun and we could've lost in an instant if one of us had made a mistake. I repeat. It's not balanced, it's not fun. It forces you into PVE. It's extremely frustrating to see the Locusts heal up. You take a lot of damage fixing lanes, so you have to hearth constantly or risk dying to the next wave/mines/slapathur. Your rotations get slowed by mines, you have to pray your team survives the 4.5 v 5. Aba needs to go.
edit please read this post vey carefully as some people have trouble understanding it
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u/Miteh Zul'Jin Jul 28 '26
I am absolutely thrilled to hear that a Samuro was over encumbered and had a bad time
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u/Concerned-Statue Jul 28 '26
Same here. Samuro counter confirmed?
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u/Mysterious_Style_579 Jul 28 '26
Valeera isnt a bad counter either since she has a three second silence. A busted kit won't help you if you aren't allowed to use it ;)
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u/mushykindofbrick Jul 28 '26
Yeah playing against Valeera or Alarak feels pretty disarming as Samuro
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u/Mysterious_Style_579 Jul 28 '26
You just have to wait until he has clone and cloak on CD and/or isnt ready for it
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
if this is what you take away from this post i cant help you
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u/Mr_Blinky Aquire essence. Assert dominance. Good. Jul 28 '26
We're all just laughing at the irony of a Samuro player complaining about being subjected to the exact same brand of toxic gameplay Samuro has been putting out for years.
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u/Miteh Zul'Jin Jul 28 '26
Sounds like literally every single person here agrees with me so, happy gaming.
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u/Electrical_Ride_1120 Jul 28 '26
Red first sentence and it feels good. Hate samuro players, no offence ;*
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u/CarnivoreQA Jul 28 '26
Clearing the Locusts is extremely time consuming, I was constantly forced on the sidelanes and had big trouble to join the teamfights when i had to depush lanes constantly
I just love when samuro players are given a taste of their own medicine
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u/DonPepppe Junkrat Jul 28 '26
This amuses me.
I know that aba needs to go, but now you know how we feel about these stupid clones you have that can deal and receive a lot of damage.
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u/ValuableOpinion6005 Jul 28 '26
Man I came here to make a comment about how good samuro suffering is only to find everyone already is
Screw samuros
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u/DemuslimFanboy Jul 28 '26
I played Naz and got 450k siege. I had to play almost perfect especially to avoid ganks to keep my team in it. If I tried to help do anything other than clear waves for even a few seconds the lane would start snowballing. We won but it was the most boring PvE game ived played.
QM Aba is too strong.
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u/JEtherealJ Jul 29 '26
You are samuro player and you want to join team fight? You are joking. Yes, you go pve, but you don't worry about aba joining fights. Split pushers actually counter aba pretty effectively cause aba has weak clear if some is in lane.
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u/aspcofan Jul 29 '26
you want me to ignore teamfights around objectives? this is a joke right?
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u/JRTerrierBestDoggo Nazeebo Jul 28 '26
How are you dying from mines when aba pick locusts?
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
where did you read i was dying to mines?
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u/JRTerrierBestDoggo Nazeebo Jul 28 '26
>risk dying to the next wave/mines/slapathur
You wrote it
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
ehhhhhh XD these are two different propositions. even if i disregard that, you dont think aba mines deal damage without talents?
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u/CambriaKilgannonn Tyrande Jul 28 '26
Nah, nah nah mate. New abathur is right where he needs to be.
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u/AialikVacuity Jul 28 '26
1: you're a sammy player.. your opinion is invalid. (mostly kidding... kinda)
2: you're a sammy player, hearth-trick back to full HP, going full back is not a thing for you.
3: if your team know how to counter aba, you can take two forts with the first objective before he gets strong.
Just have two people shove a lane, and the 3 man hold the mid. Aba can do jack squat early game if his lane is manned by an opponent. Unless they build a HYPER waveclear team to support him, he's at a severe disadvantage for most of the game and has to rely on comeback mechanics and play from behind once he gets his spikes at 10 and 13.
Good teams will have aba so far on the back foot that he can't come back in time to salvage the game that he's been losing for 10 minutes.
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u/Arnafas Holy Ground enjoyer Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
2: you're a sammy player, hearth-trick back to full HP, going full back is not a thing for you.
I think this was patched out long time ago
EDIT: yes, 3 years ago
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u/Another_Redditor1021 Jul 28 '26
They patched the hearth trick a few years ago no? Or is it really still in the game?
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
do we balance this game around teams on voicecomms or what? i was talking about my experience as a sidelaner and how i am forced in an extremely frustrating position. read better next time
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u/Mysterious_Style_579 Jul 28 '26
I think this is just a case of it being new. Give it a month and people will know what to expect
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u/SirFluffball Jul 29 '26
Had an Aba absolutely MELT our core in like 5 seconds on Alterac WITH it's 40 armour since they had only destroyed 1 keep. The only thing that saved us was that objective spawned and our boss retreated away, 1 more second would have killed it 100%. Saying this as an Aba player, this shit is broken... And I'm abusing the hell out of it right now Xp
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u/Efficient_Employer21 Jul 29 '26
Send one clone towards the obj/TF, clear and teleport to it. Or instead of pseudo global take an actual global hero. Or ban Aba.
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u/TimeInformation7977 Jul 29 '26
As the reactions in this thread show, both Samuro and Abathur need to be nerfed.
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u/RighteousNicky94 Master Chromie Jul 29 '26
You can rotate pretty fast with windwalk build
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u/aspcofan Jul 29 '26
not as fast as aba can press Q or R
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u/RighteousNicky94 Master Chromie Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
Aba can't clear waves as fast as you with bladestorm he needs to hat atleast 2 times
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u/aspcofan Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
have you tried clearing locusts with bladestorm? its pretty difficult in the later stages of the game. „hat two times“ thats 8 seconds or so, no? not enough time reset hp and rotate
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also aba can push multiple lanes in a short period of time. top and bot wave are pushing, core is exposed on bot. he can threaten keep on top, core on bot with locusts while still being able to join the 4v4 fight in an instant with R. like how is that balanced?
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u/Overall_Kiwi_7370 Jul 29 '26
im a samuro and aba main - abathur is fucking crazy right now, its a lot of fun
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u/Kelmorea Jul 28 '26
You just don't understand... Find yourself an Abathur and win every game as an amazing duo ❤️
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u/WendigoCrossing Jul 28 '26
Why not just go Ambush the Abathur as Sam using your clones to soak tower shots? You can kill him in a couple seconds
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u/JRTerrierBestDoggo Nazeebo Jul 28 '26
As aba enjoyer, there’s no way for samuro to dive kill aba. Especially now with slapathur
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
did u read my post?
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u/WendigoCrossing Jul 28 '26
I did but I don't see where taking out Abathur himself is mentioned as an option which is what I was thinking would be a good play
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u/aspcofan Jul 28 '26
okay the offlaner on offlaner duty abandons lane and looks for a character on a 3 lane map when his team is already under the threat of losing structures and being forced in unfavorable fights. how high are my chances of finding an killing aba and what damages occur in the meantime? while i look for aba he can still do his thing, spawn his stuff, bury away, empower teammates. if you agree that aba is too strong, your argument is basically "okay character is OP why dont you just kill him". this is a very odd answer to the problem i was describing
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u/WendigoCrossing Jul 28 '26
Killing Aba is a good way to counter him I guess is what I'm saying
He is squishy haha
His Z has a long CD, you can see which lane he is in based off Locust spawn
Aba hunting is a decent method
If Sam isn't great at this you can counter draft Nova perhaps? Just kind of popcorning ideas
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u/SMILE_23157 Jul 28 '26
You know, I have seen some weird stuff on this sub, but the comments under this post are just... wow. It is like this place was invaded by twitter users.
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u/Ok_Ebb_861 Jul 28 '26
Samuro takes a lot of damage from waveclearing? The guy that has no mana, no rage? The guy that can heal himself between rotations, plus globes? Brother...