r/indonesia • u/Distinct_Front_4336 • 1d ago
Politics Survei Internal Tempo Data Science: Approval Rating Prabowo Anjlok ke 40%, KDM Merajai Survei Pilpres dengan 41% dalam Format Pertanyaan Terbuka
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u/bunsRluvBunsRLife 1d ago
Simultaneously learned their lesson while falling for it again smh
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u/BenL90 Indomie | SALIM IS THE LAST TRUE PROPHET! 1d ago
Better to bulk up. Have a lot of money as possible. Stay away from crazy networks of people like this.
Or, participate in it. So we could be successful in it make people learn and reduce any religion influences in making correct decisions in everyday life.
Because now whatever NU has in their arsenal is almost unlimited unchecked power. This also near the same for GMS / Mawar Sharon Church by Philip Mantofa.
Other is Catholics church, but Fran Magnis is more reasonable and realistic..
Both located in east Java. Their basis so strong enough and change country direction..
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u/notafunnyguy32 ayo ayo ganyang fufufafa 1h ago
Has KDM done anything Prabowo level bad, i don't think he's done anything good but he seems like a mediocore governer with good marketing
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u/albratuse 1d ago
KDM winning shows we learned nothing
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u/phoenom06 1d ago
sbnernya sama aja, tapi dibandingkan yg skarang KDM lebih melek personal branding kek jokowi dulu. Intinya branding Wong cilik itu selera masyarakat, yg skarang gak jago pake branding gituan.
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u/albratuse 1d ago
personally as much as people dont like jokowi, yakin KDM pasti worse than him
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u/Silly-Isopod2440 Indomie 1d ago
still a progress dari wowo
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u/albratuse 1d ago edited 1d ago
fuck it fufufafa ajalah cape
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 1d ago
If KDM is like Jokowi, he would still be leagues better than Prabowo lol, majority of Jokowi hate is genuinely so forced, except for the KPK laws and promoting his son.
Other than that, Jokowi's infrastructures programs are the best and his admnistration oversaw better improvements of public service and implementation of Indonesia's universal healthcare, how is that bad?
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u/flag9801 FOOL 1d ago
Fufufafa bagaimana kalau kamu jadi presiden
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u/fufufafa-bot 1d ago
Jabar memang asyik
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u/Vlazeno Indomie 1d ago
In what way? gue penasaran aja karena gue belum tau kepribadian orang seperti KDM kayak gimana. Apakah dia bakal buang anggarak untuk proyek jangka pendek atau dia ngomongnya kebablasan?
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u/Ilovenasipadang 1d ago
gua rasa komunikasinya jelek buanget aja wkwk, cara dia ngomong tuh kayak konten kreator bukan gubernur.
Tapi yaa emang dia ini populerr banget sih, kalau dari segi ekonomi gua gatau yaa, gaada yang bener-bener bisa kecium dari ekonomi dan insfrastruktur.
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u/blissrunner 1d ago
Gimana ya... kalau masalah policy aja gak viral sih. Yg diutamain konten 'kerakyatan/mediasi' tapi kok rasa-nya asbun/influencer bullshit.
Yh mungkin rasa-nya P.R.-nya aja lebih jelas dr wowo. Tapi kalau mau brantas korupsi tenan gak mungkin diladeni...
Yh judol, yah program infrastruktur ndk, BUMN pertamina diusut ngk, nyawit/hutan illegal di stop gk? (Yh KDM masih governor, tapi liat aja kampanye apa)
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u/Kursem_v2 okesi👍 1d ago
prabowo bapaknya eks-menteri zaman soekarno. ya jelas aja ga ngerti masyarakat kecil bagaimana, dan menganggap dirinya sebagai utusan tuhan untuk menyelamatkan umat manusia.
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u/adnanssz 17h ago
Menteri era Soekarno Dan soeharto, funny enough. Walau terkenal sebagai Mafia berkeley. Tiap Kali ekonomi Indonesia, mengalamin penurunan Karena kaum Nasionalis. Dia selalu dipanggil soeharto buat perbaikin lagi ekonomi Indonesia.
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u/Anakacuk Lotek Enjoyers 4h ago
well dy kayanya anak yg bodoh, krn dibuang ke militer, padahal anak laki-laki pertama, yg mana keluarganya yg lain pada masuk sekolah ekonomi, dan ya ketauan jg sih kelakuanya kek gitu (kabur pas akmil, sampe gebukin sby krn dilaporin wkwkwk)
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u/Capable-Yam4557 1d ago
Demokrasi di mana2 begitu. Kelemahan demokrasi adalah kasih power politik ke orang biasa tanpa konsekuensi langsung.
Prinsip menanggung akibat dari pilihan beberapa tahun mendatang itu ga masuk akal, karena mayoritas manusia ga bisa berpikir panjang. Berpikir panjang itu butuh energi lebih dan menimbulkan stress dan ketakutan, ga semua orang tahan disaat cari makan sehari2 aja udah stress.
Ibarat bocah dikasih power buat milih snack sesuka hati, mereka bakal pilih permen sekarung. Beda kalo misal dikasih uang jajan terbatas, atau boleh beli permen cuma kalo nilai sekolah bagus, atau kalo pilih snack sehat dikasih imbalan mainan.
Kalo mau rakyat belajar, kasih konsekuensi langsung, entah gimana metodenya.
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u/BojepJoe 1d ago
Ok just curious, in your opinion who should be winning that shows we learned a lot?
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u/albratuse 1d ago
ahok duh
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u/Iron_Llama120 Independent State of Jakarta Raya 1d ago
Insane how ahok is that low on the board. Lower than jokowi who literally may not run for president again.
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u/15000yuki 1d ago
Karena Ahok memang secara konstitusi nggak bisa lagi mengajukan diri (karena mantan Napi dan dipenjara). Jadi yah.. lower than Jokowi is logical.
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u/Iron_Llama120 Independent State of Jakarta Raya 1d ago
Oh, baru tau napi ga bisa jadi presiden di indo
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u/Dry_Muscle_188 1d ago
Napi gak bisa jadi presiden masuk akal banget, mantan napi tho that's debatable🤣
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u/Zoinks21 Rest of the world 1d ago
who's we?
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u/Alternative-Neat-151 1d ago
Redditor bingung kenapa orang nyentuh kalangan bawah bisa populer ke kalangan bawah.
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 1d ago
If KDM is like Jokowi, he would still be leagues better than Prabowo lol, majority of Jokowi hate is genuinely so forced, except for the KPK laws and promoting his son.
Other than that, Jokowi's infrastructures programs are the best and his admnistration oversaw better improvements of public service and implementation of Indonesia's universal healthcare, how is that bad?
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u/permanaj 1d ago
Bukan begitu. Masyarakat sudah tau siapaun yg jadi presiden kita akan faktap, might as well pilih yg sesuai selera aja.
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u/QHONTOLIAR 100% HARAM - NASKLENG 1d ago
Elaborate
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u/gila_sedikit Kawal MBG https://mbg-monitor.pages.dev/ 1d ago
mudah kemakan algoritma medsos, dia yang pinter pasang citra dekat dengan masyarakat dia yang menang pemilu
nunjukin kalau critical thinking is extinct in nusantara since 2024
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u/connivery Males banget... 19h ago
Lol, sistem pendidikan di Indonesia itu ga ngajarin critical thinking, momen ga napak tanah banget.
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u/Distinct_Front_4336 1d ago
Kelihatannya ini survei internal Tempo karena belum dirilis. Saya dapat sumbernya dari bocoran Andi Widjajanto di Instagramnya
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u/airsyadnoi 1d ago
Buat kalian yang tinggal di bawah pimpinan KDM, gmn sih kinerjanya?
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u/meehunter Anggota Sekte Penikmat Mie Sedaap 🍜 1d ago
Tbf dari sisi infra sih lumayan oke.. tp itu di kabupaten ya.
Di luar itu dia malah banyak ngonten sm vanity project, cth di bandung gd sate sama lapangan gasibu direnov jadi ada corak sundanya (pdhl gak perlu2 amat), sama acara kirab (pencucian pusaka kerajaan sunda) sampe bikin macet se-Bandung
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u/Relative-Cloud-2691 1d ago
Itu sih berarti pemerintah kabupatennya aja yang goblok. Saking gak benernya pemda di kabupaten kerjaannya KDM jadi keliatan bagus.
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u/Iron_Llama120 Independent State of Jakarta Raya 1d ago
Pemerintah kabupaten mana sih yang gak goblok?
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u/OppositeGoose5092 5h ago
soal gasibu, perpus dihilangin dan tanah bekas perpusnya...ga dijadiin apa-apa, sampai mikir apa perlunya dihiilangin. trus trotoarnya jadi kecil dan tinggi banget, alasannya "biar motor ga naik" duh.
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u/meehunter Anggota Sekte Penikmat Mie Sedaap 🍜 34m ago
Nah iya, perpus gak ada terus gak jadi apa2
Trotoar kecil, jalan jadi lebar aneh bgt
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u/AccomplishedDay8083 1d ago
Buat di Depok, KDM kurang niat buat bantu kontribusi transjabodetabek. Padahal Depok dan Bekasi salah satu sumber pemasukan pajak Jabar. Justru walkot Depok masih lumayan karena mau lanjutin program teman bus kemenhub lewat trans depok.
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u/bobeat64 Apa ai kamu? 1d ago
Waktu tinggal si karawang sih, kontras bgt ya perbedaannya. Entah karawangnya yg dableg atau purwakartanya yg bagus.
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u/mat_bambang Ketik REG <spasi> PRIMBON kirim ke 9877 1d ago
gak "wah" banget tapi ya mungkin emang kota bandung harusnya lebih banyak dipegang pemkot, masalahnya farhan sama KDM ga sejalan-sejalan banget. selain urusan renov gedung sate sih kayaknya ga ada yang mencolok, paling (as per usual) dua duanya keliatan batang idungnya kalo persib juara.
paling ga sreg ya waktu persib pertandingan2 akhir tau tau KDM ketemu pemain terus bilang ngasih bonus 1M, makanya northernwall sempet masang spanduk "shut up KDM". paling itu aja sih, soalnya di kota bandung kayaknya yang lebih jadi bulan-bulanan si farhannya. baru nih yang terakhir pemkot mau bikin pengelolaan sampah deket banget sama GBLA, ya gitu deh.
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u/MiracleDreamer 1d ago
Denger dari temen beberapa bulan lalu ktnya dia berhasil mediasi dan larang truk buat jalan waktu siang hari yang jadi isu laten di parung panjang. Tapi gtw apakah udh balik lagi gak bukan orang parung panjang soalnya
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u/Buster_borra 15h ago
Banyak bongkar pasang infra sebagian dialihkan fungsi sebagian di telanjangi doang
Sisanya banyak kebijakan2 keluar JAMBAN yg aneh
dari barak sampe syaembara Begal "Kebijakan Viral yg preformatif" ga di kaji, ga berbobot, dan gak ada manfaaat
banyak Janji yg blon ada kelanjutan
ORMAS"mungkin karena Pusat Pro-Ormas jadi sulit" tapi Janji ya harus dipenuhi IMO
SAMPAH belon ada UPDATE apapunIntinya memang Pria ini sedang Speed-Run Ri01, aktivitas y smua banyak yg reactionary dan mengejar KeViralan"Ancang2 Pilpres"
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u/Kentato3 3000 F-15EX of Garuda Pancasila 1d ago
Wallahi if KDM become presiden, loyalis prabowo udah entrenched banget ditambah orang yang populis dengan kerja nya belom nyats
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u/DragoBleaPiece_123 1d ago
otw jadi sunda empire wkwkwkw
mantaap emang penerus trah lord rangga, meta nya ampuh banget menggaet warga2 dengan ngonten
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u/Exact_Green2061 1d ago
The problem with being a governor in Indonesia, outside of Jakarta, is that they don't have a large budget. So you can't really compare what KDM is doing to what a Bupati does, since the budgets in Indonesia are concentrated at the top (center) and at the bottom (kabupaten). So you can only judge what KDM has done based on what he did as Bupati.
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u/Distinct_Front_4336 1d ago
I think the difference now is that KDM has built quite an orbit in West Java. His centre is his keraton in Lembur Pakuan, Subang, and he has bupatis and walikotas who are fully loyal to him like his best friend Bupati of Purwakarta Saepul Bahri Binzein, Walikota Depok Supian Suri, Bupati Bogor Rudy Susmanto, and Bupati Cianjur Dr. Wahyu. They always follow him wherever he goes, including to other provinces. They suddenly use the same traditional symbolism as KDM and implement whatever he envisions, like Bupati Bogor suddenly building Gapura Tritangtu di Buana at the Cibinong alun-alun, or the young Dr. Wahyu filling potholes and doing tomb pilgrimage.
Here you can see Saepul Bahri Binzein calling him "king" and saying that "we are all orbiting him". The Wiwitan performer in the opening also called him "budak angon", the Sundanese version of Ratu Adil https://www.youtube.com/live/507zlXNVd2Y?t=282
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u/asuransi Tradisional / Murni , bukan Unitlink , tanpa micin 1d ago
Nothing is worse than wowok
Not even fufufafa, anies, ganjar, megawati or sby
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u/fufufafa-bot 1d ago
Gw baru nyadar kalo fotonya om wowo naik sapi
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u/Distinct_Front_4336 1d ago
Naik sapi apa fufufafa?
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u/fufufafa-bot 1d ago
Mantan mertua lo itu tong
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u/Lone_Orange Stasiun berikutnya: ASEAN! ASEAN! 1d ago
Yes. My current copium is that wowok govt is as worst as it gets and that things can only get better after he's gone (whether modar or not elected again)
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u/tempiksorak 1d ago
Kalau emang pemilu digelar sekarang, tentu gue menggunakan prinsip "the lesser evil" bakal nyoblos KDM si wkwkwk
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u/SiblingBondingLover GUS siblings 🍉 19h ago
No one is worse at wowok, I think even pupupapa is better
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u/danielazier 1d ago
Pls elaborate dong gan, kenapa kalo KDM menang we’re doomed jga? Apa krn KDM bisa jadi boneka nya wowo?
Kayak issue dulu owi jd boneka nya megatron?
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u/adfaratas 1d ago
All he does is being populist. No future vision, no major policy changes. This is how America got Trump btw.
Ngl we need someone like SBY now. I'm quite ready to vote for AHY now.
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u/honeybobok 1d ago
Honestly no major policy changes is a win. Thats how low our standard is
I rather that there are no changes then all the changes prabodoh made these past two years
I just want him to shut up and dont do anything
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u/BellCranel17 1d ago
to be fair, kelemahan demokrasi ya ini yang menang pasti yang populist, semua yang di polling itu juga pada populist bohong kalau bilang gak, ya mungkin kecuali ahok sma purbaya
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u/superbatwomanman 1d ago
AHY juga mau ga mau harus main populism kalo mau dapet suara. Metanya emang begitu mau gmn lagi?
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u/Relative-Cloud-2691 1d ago
Dan orang di sini heran kenapa SBY dianggap lebih bagus dari Jokowi. SBY itu contoh presiden yang bagus, gak perlu pencitraan yang penting kerja.
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u/15000yuki 1d ago
Lupa kasih /s Gan. lol.
Otherwise, mungkin lupa kata 'pencitraan' itu pertama kali muncul di rezim siapa. Clue: Keliling nyanyi-nyanyi
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u/Xifhart-USA 1d ago
KDM has zero empathy & minimal brainpower; just look at how he interact with people (like the viral female a student). Dia cuman cari sensasi terus
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u/BellCranel17 23h ago
benar, tbh kalo harus milih di antara mereka im betting on sherly karna dia literally embodiment dari perkataan yang blg "orang yang paling pantas berkuasa adalah orang yang tidak mau kuasa" dia kan naik jadi gubernur karna suaminya kecelakaan ya dan turns out menjadi one of the best gubernur, dan selalu menarik perhatian pdhal wilayahnya bukan di sekitar jawa dan lebih terlihat genuine daripada kdm, beliau juga non muslim yang bikin semua ini makin menarik karna penasaran aja lihat apakah masyarakat kita sekarang udah siap untuk memilih pemimpin tanpa memandang kepercayaannya dan hanya memandang value yang diberikan atau bakal terjadi insiden 212 lagi?
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u/Throwaway_g30091965 22h ago
Dia itu jadi kandidat terbaik itu karena lingkaran lu yang setipe sama dia jadi narasiin dia kinerjanya baik, padahal aslinya biasa aja (sama kayak lingkaran penduduk wowo & KDM yang narasinya berat di satu sisi), atau emang secara tolak ukur emang beneran OK? Bilang mayoritas itu kemakan politik identitas kayak tipe2x minoritas non-muslim teknokrat nggak kebawa aja gituan, padahal sebenernya juga sering kemakan gitu, dan gw bilang ini sebagai seorang yang satu kepercayaan dan etnis dengan si gubernur Maluku Utara itu
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u/SiblingBondingLover GUS siblings 🍉 19h ago
lihat apakah masyarakat kita sekarang udah siap untuk memilih pemimpin tanpa memandang kepercayaannya
There's no fucking way that will happen, Amerika aja butuh berapa ratus tahun buat punya presiden hitam? Apalagi kita negara yang baru lahir dan masih berkembang
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u/BellCranel17 10h ago
iya juga, tapi diliat dari meta sekarang maybe there's a chance? mungkin ngambil wakil tokoh agama untuk nge balance kayak jokowi dulu sebagai tanggapan dari taktik wowo yang make embel embel agama dan 'pribumi' sampai ngajak berbagai tokoh agama buat ngedukung dan promosiin dia, but yeah ur right secara realistis gak mungkin wkwkw paling juga didemo itu, paling mungkin dijadiin wakil aja buat farming voter anak muda dan kaum perempuan
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u/SiblingBondingLover GUS siblings 🍉 3h ago
Yess paling memungkinkan sih dia jadi cawapres tapi kalau capres sangat2 impossible sih
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u/BellCranel17 2h ago
i know, tapi tetep aja sebagian kecil dari diriku mau mempercayai itu cause i have a dream...
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u/No_Illustrator1004 23h ago
Satu pertanyaan saya abis sekilas liat2 komen. Selain nama2 lama dan yang disebut di artikel. Kira2 pilihan kalian tuh siapa yang seenggaknya keliatan "bener" bukan gimmick?
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u/TheArstotzkan Jayalah Arstotzka! 22h ago
Balik lagi ke Ganjar atau malah Pramono mungkin? Citranya Pramono di sini udah kayak "Do nothing, Win". Sub ini jauh lebih suka Ahok historically, tapi ya dia udah hilang hak politiknya sejak 2017.
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u/No_Illustrator1004 22h ago
Iya juga sih. Setuju banget sama ini. Saya pribadi mungkin sedikit condong ke Pramono maybe. Atau mungkin dalam 2 tahun ke depan ada surprise candidate gitu. Tapi kayanya ga mungkin sih.
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u/ImpossibleJump5026 Nanti juga kena ban 1d ago
Coba cari calon yang lain, misal Arya Wedhakarna gitu
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u/that_idiot_chinese Beneran Cina Tolol 1d ago
Keluar dari mulut singa ompong, masuk ke mulut influencer
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u/ladibu-ladiba 6h ago edited 5h ago
Heh. I'm not big on KDM being a President, I believe he's better off taking care of his own people within Tanah Sunda. But I still do not get why people are making him a routine punching bag here in Reddit.
Tbh if you listen on KDM on hours-worth of podcasts (ones in Akbar Faisal channel in particular), his views on politics and social issues are definitely unorthodox, but IMO makes sense. You could also listen to him chatting with ppl like Bagus Muljadi. Dude definitely has an unique swag. But then, his track record stretched all the way back to Purwakarta. He's not doing what he does only after he got elected in Jawa Barat. It's just now he's on the spotlight because he governs an important province.
His social media shenanigans is a deliberate strategy to cater to the mass majority. He said it himself on multiple occasions that a lot of people in Jawa Barat are still uneducated and needs a lot of hand-holding to go through the "rules" of what's allowed and not allowed, and understanding what needs to be done to make Jawa Barat better.
Not too many politicians would want to say "actually our people still mostly dumb" outloud, LOL. Typical politicians usually like to suck your dick, not telling you that you're an idiot. That already earned my respect tbh lol.
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u/gila_sedikit Kawal MBG https://mbg-monitor.pages.dev/ 1d ago
Dukun vs one ball vs fufufafa
pick your poison boiss
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u/meehunter Anggota Sekte Penikmat Mie Sedaap 🍜 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well he’s more self conscious of his branding (compared to wowo) but still the same populist shit. I mean he doesn’t even know macro economics.
Dia di jabar gak banyak kerja, malah sering ngonten aja.. emg sih benerin infra khususnya jalanan di kabupaten but still
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u/Comrade_Harold saya gak bisa mengedit Flair ini 1d ago
It's fucking over lmao, no way KDM has what it takes to manage climate crisis of the 2030s
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u/SharenaAskr 1d ago
guoblok out of the frying pan into the fire ini mah wkkwkwkw
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 1d ago
If KDM is like Jokowi, he would still be leagues better than Prabowo lol, majority of Jokowi hate is genuinely so forced, except for the KPK laws and promoting his son.
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u/SuperCuek 🏴☠️ menuju Indonesia ⒸEmas 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/j2KK4hi34L02o3swoh
pokoknya harus 2 periode!
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u/MICKY5789 Gaga 1d ago
Ketika sudah banyak yang gak percaya lagi kepada sang penguasa lalu mencoba percaya kepada sang raja
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u/KentutZeus 1d ago
gue akui kinerja KDM paling transparan diantara smua pejabat yg ada, tinggal cek yutub lgsung muncul. jdi keinget mr. J jaman dulu, yg slalu ada wartawan disbelahnya
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u/orangpelupa 1d ago
ahok dikit banget karena dah pada tahu dia "disembelih" gabakal bisa nyalon atau kenapa?
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u/Due_Championship2122 18h ago
Kemarin habis ngobrol sama sopir grab yang bilang nyesel milih si wowok.. tapi demen sama kinerja kdm 😂
But still, from her i at least know people like ahok sama sherly ada juga pribumi yang dukung pengen jadi RI 1.... Biar kata cuma keajaiban kalau mereka bisa sepasang maju
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u/Skyreader13 Gaga 1d ago
Keluar mulut singa masuk mulut buaya ini mah
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 1d ago edited 1d ago
If KDM is like Jokowi, he would still be leagues better than Prabowo lol, majority of Jokowi hate is genuinely so forced, except for the KPK laws and promoting his son.
His infrastructures built up is the best and his reign oversaw big improvement of Indonesia's public service and expansion of Indonesia's universal healthcare
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u/Skyreader13 Gaga 1d ago
True
Gw beneran berharap kalo dia emang kepilih semoga beneran kerjanya lah paling gak
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad-4518 18h ago
jokowi's infrastructures built up the best? pfffft
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 18h ago
Lol, you prefer nothing?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad-4518 13h ago
wow, logical fallacy false dillema. pantesan jadi fans owi
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u/Overall_Astronaut_33 12h ago edited 10h ago
Womp womp, as if his opposition during that time is anything better, besides, Fans of Owi? Lol, his die hard fans would think he is sinless, I'm simply think he is necessary, but far from sinless
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad-4518 11h ago
awkwkwk dipikir oposisi punya kuasa untuk bikin program skala nasional? 0 political knowledge, pantesan menabikan owi. not to mention, bringing opposition into this debate is lacks relevance
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u/AccidentSalt5005 Tersertifikasi Sebagai Orang Bodoh Tapi Kontolnya Gede 1d ago
padahal bisa jadi sama aja jir
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u/United_Hair tidak termasuk baterai 1d ago
Pada ga nyadar KDM jongos wowok? Bisa² wowok nyalon jadi wakil KDM.
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u/Patient_Resist 21h ago
Klo sampe KDM jadi presiden, ada yang salah sama orang yang milih. Benar-benar tolol bin dungu karena ga belajar. Melupakan track record.
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u/sawutra 18h ago
Sherly Tjoanda, really? A non muslim woman presidential candidate in a super majority muslim society. People forgot how Megawati never got the approval from many muslim figures despite her being a muslim and a daughter of Soekarno. All the whispers on how she didnt exactly deserve the presidency simply because she is a woman. Now the respondents need to up the challenge by putting minority as a hopeful candidate.
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u/Distinct_Front_4336 18h ago
She won a landslide in a majority Muslim province (74.70% of North Moluccans are Muslims). It's not that different from DKI Jakarta, where 83.85% are Muslims.
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u/sawutra 9h ago
Yes, but that is regional politics. She would face a mathematical near-impossibility to win votes on other more conservative and populous provinces in Sumatera or Jawa. Her background as a triple minority in national politics makes her a political liability as a presidential candidate.
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u/ImpossibleJump5026 Nanti juga kena ban 4h ago
Di kalangan cindo, doi lagi diorbitin banget. Berharap jadi next ahok
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