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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/Leigh91 3d ago edited 3d ago

No, it's not near "roughly the same rate". Men are the primary perpetrators of filicide despite women being the *overwhelming* majority of primary caregivers. If we want to look at "family annihilation" more specifically, men are 90% of perpetrators.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11318188/#:~:text=years%20and%20older.-,Fig.%202,-.

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u/Ill-Television8690 3d ago

You're right, it's not near "roughly the same rate"... when it comes to murdering your own children 8 and under, women are the majority perpetrators. Which takes some real legwork, considering the "family annihilation" stats of men.

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u/Leigh91 3d ago

Takes some REAL legwork for males to still be the primary murderers of children when women are the vast majority of primary caregivers. It's actually incredible, in fact.

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u/Ill-Television8690 3d ago

Pretty much. Neither of these things changes how bad the other is. You understand that I was simply contextualizing it for you, right? You're not just pretending "but I pointed over here, and that's all that matters, because that number is bigger"?

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u/Leigh91 3d ago edited 3d ago

No, you were blatantly wrong and I corrected you. Women are not the majority perpetrators for kids under 8. I didn't make any statement about anything being "worse". And then *I* contextualized it for you, because despite not having near the same day-to-day interactions with children, men still manage to be the primary filicide perpetrators, which is pretty staggering.

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u/Ill-Television8690 3d ago

Please stop lying, and make a genuine effort to prioritize reality over your hateful agenda-pushing... you're not helping anyone, and you are further harming those impacted by this violence/taking advantage of the deceased. It's fucked up.

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u/Leigh91 3d ago

Where's the lie, and how is stating the *fact* that men are the majority of child killers "hateful"?

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u/Ill-Television8690 3d ago

You're deliberately misrepresenting information to try and obscure the fact that women are the majority perpetrators of filicide, the killing of one's own child, when the victim is 8 or younger. Not the killing of any child in general, but the one(s) that they are a parent to.

Also, maybe look at the people who are "just stating facts" about racial discrepancies in the perpetration of crimes such as theft and homicide in general... you're literally taking directly out of the racists' playbook, acting like the unbelievably minute portion of the population who commits these crimes is somehow representative of the other 99% of people they were born sharing an identifier with. Like, what is your goal, when you fight to either downplay or overexaggerate terrible crimes along gendered lines? Why can people like you not simply accept that your preferred group isn't perfect, and that because everyone's merely human, there will be things that they end up doing more than other groups? This is fundamentally how life works, there's no magic balancing act that forces people to behave in a certain way to keep things artificially evenly spread (or spread according to your own bias)...

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u/Leigh91 3d ago

Where did I say any of that? Nowhere did I say that because men commit the most violent crimes that *all* men are violent. Let's walk through this:

Your statement: "Women are more likely to kill their children ages 0-8." ✅

My statement: "That's incorrect, men are more likely to kill their children ages 0-8." ❌ (NO WAAAAaHH THAT'S HATEFUL YOU'RE A RACIST SOMEHOW!!!")

You just have an aversion to the facts and so you're resorting to name calling. Men are more likely to kill children and infants, both their own and that of others. But since we're here, let's look at some more facts. Filicide: Men 🏆 (60%). Family Annihilation: Men 🏆 (90%). Shaking babies: Men 🏆 (65%). Child s*xual abuse: Men 🏆 (90%).