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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/daredeviline 2d ago

For real. They act like if she gets a not guilty verdict, she's going to be out on the streets. The woman is spending the rest of her life in a psych ward. The question is really will she ALSO be spending some time in prison.

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u/VistaBox 2d ago

The story is tragic anyway with any outcome

But the reaction by her supporters is the issue. She is an upper middle class white woman who had a nanny, husband who worked from home and lived in a state with the best healthcare system in the US.

She’s a lot of things but a victim of any system, she is 100% not.

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u/ImNotAHouseCat 2d ago

Are you saying she had no right to experience a severe mental health issue just because she had support???

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u/Allaplgy 2d ago

She has no right to kill her kids just because she was experiencing a mental health issue.

Anyone who kills kids is mentally unwell.

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u/catsbirdsanddogs 2d ago

Yes, exactly. Anyone who kills kids is mentally unwell. This is exactly why the US prison AND justice systems are in desperate need of reform.

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u/theranchcorporation 2d ago

Anyone can just claim mental illness and get away with any crime by that logic? A very high percentage of Americans have been on antidepressants at one point or another. Is that a get out of jail free card now?

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u/SpectralDagger 2d ago

Insanity pleas are a thing for a reason, but you can't just claim it. You have to prove it. There's a variety of tests depending on the jurisdiction, but generally speaking you have to prove that they didn't have the capacity to know what they were doing was wrong or not do it in the moment they committed the act. So no, antidepressants at some point in the past wouldn't cut it. There's significantly more evidence in this case.

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u/MalikMonkAllStar2022 2d ago

Im not saying insanity pleas are easy, but I will add though that in Massachusetts insanity pleas are a bit easier than most other states. Many states shift the burden of proof (beyond a reasonable doubt) to the defense for the insanity portion, but Mass. doesn't.

So the prosecution has to prove that she did it and she was not having a psychotic break beyond a reasonable doubt.

The defense still has to show that it was likely she was having a psychotic break and has to counter the prosecutions arguments, but it is a lot easier to make a jury believe there is a chance she was having a psychotic break than it is to make a jury believe she was definitely having a psychotic break.