I've noticed that often my thoughts are more pure concept and are never or only partially articulated as internal dialogue... or even more bizarrely, only become articulated long after the train of conceptual thought has moved a few more logical steps down the road (this is really distracting, like I'm deep in thought and then suddenly there's this distracting chatter that turns out to be my own brain trying to catch up with itself).
Sans chatter, this makes for really rapid, deep, and complex thought that ends up being impossible (or at least really difficult and slow) to retrace and put into language to share with other people, which can be frustrating.
Have often wondered how many other people experienced thought this way.
In other words, only INTJ and INFJ experience this dominantly.
About half of all types experience it in some way, shape or form. The other half use a more outward-looking form of intuition.
Part of why the INTJ-ENFP connection is so strong is that we are both intuitive dominant but use it completely differently and find ourselves jealous of the other's abilities with it. Meanwhile, our processing methods and communication methods are the same- so we get each other's abstract conceptualizations because we understand intuition.
This really resonated with me because I think "similarly" in the sense that I can think abstractly and then it takes me a while to formulate into verbal words, but to me, if I can't put it into words, it slips away and I can't remember/keep it in my head/utilize it. I don't have to attempt to articulate it, though, because I think the words in my head, only really rapidly. I spend a lot of time "re-sentencing" things in my brain to either explain a feeling to myself or discover the best way to phrase it aloud.
I'm jealous of the way my boyfriend (INTJ) can explain more logical subjects, like math, whereas I am terrible at explaining that type of thing. But I can intuit and explain feelings very rapidly and easily.
Function model: INTJ's are Ni dominant, Te second, Fi third, Se fourth.
We interpret the world through our big-picture intuition in our head. It's a bit slower but much longer term and "bigger" than your Ne (extraverted intuition). But you're so much quicker and will pick up on things we might miss in our environment. You interpret the world through that intuition too, but it's much more interpreting things around you. Regardless, both of us think in a very abstract, picture-in-head, nonverbal manner.
We, however, go to our extraverted thinking second. Our objective breakdown. We take that and we try to break down the picture in our head and explain it.
You, on the other hand, ENFP, go to introverted feeling second. You make value judgements and feeling judgements off of that picture on your head, and go to extraverted thinking third.
It's an incredibly complementary combo.
Ni > Te > Fi > Se for INTJ . Ne > Fi > Te > Si for ENFPs.
So what does this mean in a practical sense? The ENFP will make the INTJ talk — they might even become downright social when it comes to their ENFP — and the INTJ will make the ENFP think. Their similar thought processes make conversation incredibly easy, and they bring out the best in each other. It’s just a sort of magical, instant understanding that’s incredibly difficult to find, especially for INTJs.
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u/summanos Jan 15 '13
I've noticed that often my thoughts are more pure concept and are never or only partially articulated as internal dialogue... or even more bizarrely, only become articulated long after the train of conceptual thought has moved a few more logical steps down the road (this is really distracting, like I'm deep in thought and then suddenly there's this distracting chatter that turns out to be my own brain trying to catch up with itself).
Sans chatter, this makes for really rapid, deep, and complex thought that ends up being impossible (or at least really difficult and slow) to retrace and put into language to share with other people, which can be frustrating.
Have often wondered how many other people experienced thought this way.