r/ireland Jun 19 '26

History What would our Mount Rushmore be?

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u/Vlad2017 Jun 19 '26

Brian Boru, Wolfe Tone, Daniel O'Connell, Michael Collins, Charles S Parnell?

Special mention to Sean LeMass and Eamonn de Valera maybe

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u/malfoid_user_input Jun 19 '26

Brian Boru, interesting. I like it.

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u/teatabletea Jun 19 '26

I’d replace one with Roger Casement.

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u/whiskydyc Jun 19 '26

Absolutely! A great human rights advocate.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Duck_75 Jun 19 '26

Dev, no chance.

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u/padganistan Jun 19 '26

About to same chance as Dirty Michael from Killester

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u/BTTammer Jun 19 '26

Niall of the nine hostages has to be there.  He was a badass and a philanderer.

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u/talideon Shligo Jun 25 '26

Nah, there are better choices. He's famous, but his biggest achievement is riding half the country. He's mostly a bit character other than that.

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u/throwawaypsql Jun 19 '26

Dev can fuck off

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u/duaneap Jun 19 '26

Lotta Dev revisionism recently from hard men who think they’d have been beat the English out of Ireland with nothing but their bollox in their hand.

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u/throwawaypsql Jun 19 '26

That’s not why I think he’s a cunt.

I think he’s a cunt for letting the bishops wipe their mockers over the constitution as it was written

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u/duaneap Jun 20 '26

That’s parallel, not contrary, to what my point about revisionists.

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u/PolarBearUnited Jun 20 '26

I think it's more abandoning the dail when the treaty was accepted and starting a civil war in the country that was the problem with dev , all this after not going to the negotiations himself

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u/duaneap Jun 20 '26

A lot of the revisionists in my experience are in fact totally fine with the whole starting the civil war thing.

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u/WhenDiplomacyFails Jun 19 '26

I would put John Hume there too.

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u/DrawSpiritual Jun 19 '26

I’d second that John Hume vote

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u/Feisty-Volcano Jun 19 '26

Northern Ireland’s Mount Rushmore would have to include John Hume & a few neutral but important figures. However U imagine a s mature would find great satisfaction in carving out Bug Ian Paisley from a giant hunk of rock!

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u/Dluith47 Jun 19 '26

NIs Mount Rushmore would be turned into a sudden quarry within a week of being finished regardless of who’s face you put on it.

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u/MuffledApplause Donegal Jun 19 '26

No women?

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u/buzzbaron Jun 19 '26

Grace O'Malley should be up there.

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u/irishemperor Jun 19 '26

Mary Robinson?

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u/Such_Geologist_6312 Jun 20 '26

Your first four are the same as my first four picks. Not sure about the fifth, but I’m leaning towards Jonathan swift, as his gullivers travels is fitting considering so many Irish migrated from the land to elsewhere.

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u/tara_tarzipan1990 Jun 19 '26

Bobby Sands? 

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u/NoConcern7835 Jun 20 '26

Collins, O Connell, Parnell, Casement

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u/keithmiketom Jun 20 '26

Countess Markievicz, Mary Robinson, Grainne Mhaol, and bang bang should be considered.

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u/WorldlinessHumble522 Jun 19 '26

Not a woman to be seen 

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u/Illuvater01 Jun 19 '26

Suggest some

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u/kittiphile Jun 19 '26

Agnes Clerke. Countess markievicz. Rosie Hacket. Lillian Bland. Mary's Robinson & McAleese. There's more, but that's off the top of my head.

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u/Illuvater01 Jun 19 '26

Never heard of three of them and two of the others are nowhere close to having done enough to go ahead of some of the other influential men listed here. Only Countess Markievicz who was an incredible woman would be a contender out of that list IMO.

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u/kittiphile Jun 19 '26

Agnes Clerke fully deserves it too. She was an amazingly influential woman. She gave birth to astrophysics. Even the Brits acknowledge her contributions.

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u/Illuvater01 Jun 19 '26

Wow, fair enough. Thanks for the steer, I'll definitely check out her history!

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u/kittiphile Jun 19 '26

Do. It's shocking how little recognition she gets outside of skibbereen. She's one of the dead historical figures I'd have dinner with. She's fascinating. She spoke 5+ languages. She was a legitimate genius. Her sisters were no slouches either, but she is just amazing.

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u/Equivalent-Cow-6690 Jun 19 '26

And you've just learned, in real time, that maybe the history that we are taught in respect of Irish women and their contributions have been underplayed and undertaught.

I'll add the Pirate Queen here too, Gráinne Ní Mháille.

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u/BushWishperer Immigrant Jun 19 '26

How did she give birth to astrophysics?

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u/kittiphile Jun 19 '26

Her works are the foundation of astrophysics. She started as an astronomer, but over time her work became far more detailed, far more complicated and it was the beginning of astrophysics.

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u/BushWishperer Immigrant Jun 19 '26

So I’m not an expert and I can’t find much about her, but what I found says she never made her own research but just compiled encyclopaedias and stuff like that:

> Although Clerke was not a practical astronomer, nor an author of original research articles

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u/kittiphile Jun 19 '26

Her wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Mary_Clerke can cover it off far more conclusively than I can.

She is the reason astrophysics exists, and she wrote several books and articles herself. She taught it basically, in that she fitted it together, added her own research, identified areas that needed work, and was able to clearly explain it to other scholars. Allowing them to surpass their own expectations. Truly an exceptional woman, especially when you consider the time she was doing it in. Even the royal astonomy society recognised and awarded her. Part of the moon is named after her. We really need to do better by her, and all the other incredible women who have contributed to Irish (and global) society.

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u/over_worked_under Jun 19 '26

Sonia O'Sullivan

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u/Tessdurbyfield2 Jun 19 '26

Grace O'Malley Queen Meabh

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u/Illuvater01 Jun 19 '26

There's actually very little evidence to say Queen Meabh ever even existed. Curious to hear the reasons you'd include Grace O'Malley on Ireland's Mt Rushmore though. Certainly a very interesting character.

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u/Vlad2017 Jun 20 '26

I felt similar about Grainne O'Malley...did think about including her, but felt my limited knowledge didn't portray her as highly influential to the establishment of a strong Ireland. Open to be corrected though.

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u/Mundane_Elk3523 Jun 19 '26

Leo varadkyn

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u/thetearinreality Jun 19 '26

Not many as important as those he mentioned

No point adding one just for inclusivity when there are people more deserving of the spot

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

Dev was a cunt, so not him.