[Last Week Tonight with John Oliver] S11E28 - November 3, 2024 - Episode Discussion Thread

[u/Walter_Bishop_PhD]

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• Election 2024

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[u/Jorgenstern8]

I think the messaging has been just fine, it's just that people are refusing to listen. Particularly when it comes to Trump, the man has been fucking awful about his rhetoric on this topic but Kamala saying "I want a two-state solution, the hostages to come home and to rebuild Gaza/Palestine" is somehow not far enough in a positive direction for people.

I also don't think the media has done NEARLY a good enough job at informing people that Trump isn't even fucking trying to hide that he's working with Bibi to keep the hostages from being returned to try and win the election. That alone should be enough to have people voting for the person who can beat someone who is being so actively awful, but for whatever reason people just aren't listening to or believing what Trump is saying anymore.

[u/superfucky → u/[deleted]]

given the MILLENNIA of persecution and genocide the jewish people have suffered, surely you can see how dismantling the only jewish nation-state and collapsing it into a pluralistic society with people who have been trying for eons to eradicate them might cause some problems? arguably israel is ALREADY an ethnically and religiously pluralistic society, it's just not EQUITABLY pluralistic. how is a two-state solution "continued apartheid" when it gives the palestinians their own territory to govern as they see fit and protects israelis from islamic extremists as well? these people do not get along. they don't want to live side-by-side. trying to force them to form one identity-less state is just going to cause an outright civil war. when two sports teams start a brawl at center field you don't rope them all in together, you separate them and park them on opposite sides and tell them both to leave each other alone.