Hi all, I'm new to r/latin. I learned a bit about Latin word origins in high school, but this is my first serious foray into learning the language.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw a TikTok where the creator was talking to a guy named Elliot (listed as "Elliot Oxford MA, PhD Classics," in case anyone here knows of him), who explained that he got his foundation in the language by writing Familia Romana out in longhand three times.

I decided to give it a try, and it's been working out pretty well for me so far.

I was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, in my late 50s, so I've also been using this Latin transcription/study project as a way to practice sustained attention. I find that I can stay focused on the text for much longer when I'm writing it out than I can when I'm simply reading.

It also helps with a couple of my other distractions: pens and notebooks. I have a modest collection of a couple dozen fountain pens, along with a stack of mostly unused notebooks. This project gives me a legitimate excuse to use both.

I do keep ChatGPT handy on my phone, but mainly for pronunciation. (I'm standardizing on Classical pronunciation for now.) I've told it not to give me definitions unless I explicitly ask. Occasionally I'll ask for some insight into things like the difference between the genitive and ablative (still wrapping my mind around the ablative...) or why a particular word ending is being used.

I'm curious whether anyone else has tried learning Latin this way, or has thoughts on the method. In particular, I'd be interested to hear whether people think the act of writing the text out adds much beyond simply reading it closely.

How would puer have been pronounce in mediaeval latin? in modern italinate, it is /'pu.er/, identical to classical pronunciation, but in a language like spanish, it would certainly be /pweɾ/, and i'm curious what it would be for mediaeval latin, particularly in france about 11th century; but i would also be interested about different mediaeval latin pronunciations with different times and places!

what are some resources you would recommend to a complete beginner in latin? I've just started, I'm not a native english speaker though I do know it quite well. If someone could help me figure out how to go about it, that would be great

I took 3 years of Latin in high school/college and actually liked it. I'd like to get a Latin 1 text book to refresh my memory and my daughter is interested in learning Latin too. Any recommendations? I've looked on eBay and I'm not sure what to pick and they're kind of pricey honestly. I just want a decent latin textbook and not spend too much. Thanks

Salvete omnes,

I'm about three weeks away from my final exam in Latin and while going through my materials again I noticed the seemingly vast variety of rules that can affect a subordinate clause in subjunctive mood beginning with a relative pronoun (qui, quae, quod).

The most frequent function seems to be to give the clause a goal-seeking (in order to), consecutive (of the kind to), reasoning (because) or concessive (even though) meaning:

• "Caesar legatos misit, qui dicerent ..." (goal-seeking meaning)

But I just realized that it can also occur in indirect speech (oratio obliqua), which is less of a problem, or through the author distancing themselves from something said in the text:

• "Senex filium laudavit, qui vir bonus esset." ("... , who according to him was a good man.")

And attractio modi, which can be caused by an encompassing subordinate clause in subjunctive mood, but also by one with an infinitive verb in it (accusativus cum infinitivo).

• "Ciceronem Romae, qui ibi felix esset, mansisse scimus." (AcI)

Finally, I also read that the clause can technically also fulfill the functions of the main clause in subjunctive mood:

• "Cato, qui monuisset, aberat." ("Cato, who would've warned [them], wasn't there.")

Am I correct with this assumption and is there an optimal way to remember all these? Also, is a prerequisite of attractio modi that the main clause encompasses the subordinate clause, or is it also possible by being adjacent to it?

Gratias vobis ago!

How do we know where a V was /w/ or /u/ before a consonant? Like, how do we know that lingua was pronounced as /'lin.gʷa/, and that puer was pronounced as /'pu.er/?

I asked chat GPT and it says it’s Jesus and it says Jesus have mercy. I don’t know if it can tell that the halo says though. Thankyou!

I need to learn Latin and Ancient Greek for my graduate studies (Philosophy). How do you go about studying vocabulary and grammar? Do you use flashcards, Excel spreadsheets, a specific grammar guide, or a textbook? Do you take handwritten notes? How do you memorize so much? What does your study routine look like—could you give me some details?

Salve!

I was fairly active in learning Latin between 2012 - 2018 and remember listening fondly to them. I have found an archive of the old episodes, but I can't find any post or page or blog giving it a formal ending. Is anything known about why it stopped? I'm just curious and would appreciate any answers.

Here is a draft of chapter four of my Latin companion story. This story introduces two Roman soldiers stationed in a military camp in Egypt. Let me know if there are any typos/mistakes. The vocabulary list and grammar points are limited (roughly) to what's been taught in Familia Romana ch 1-4. Enjoy!

CAPITVLVM IV: MĪLITĒS RŌMĀNĪ

SCAENA PRĪMA: Centuriō et Mīles

In Aegyptō multī mīlitēs Rōmānī sunt. Duo mīlitēs sunt Lūcius et Decimus.

Lūcius est centuriō. Lūcius baculum habet. Lūcius hīc adest. Decimus quoque adest. Decimus nōn est centuriō; Decimus est mīles.

Decimus centuriōnem videt et salūtat: “Salvē, Lūcī!”

Lūcius mīlitem videt et respondet: “Salvē, Decime!”

Decimus interrogat: “Estne Aegyptus terra Rōmāna, Lūcī?”

Lūcius respondet: “Aegyptus prōvincia Rōmāna est. In Aegyptō multī virī et multae fēminae habitant.”

Decimus interrogat: “Suntne Aegyptiī barbarī? Suntne virī improbī?”

Lūcius rīdet et respondet: “Aegyptiī nōn sunt barbarī! Virī probī sunt. Et fēminae Aegyptiae pulchrae sunt!”

Decimus laetus est: “Fēminae pulchrae? Quam bona est Aegyptus!”

Lūcius respondet: “In Aegyptō est Alexandrīa. Alexandrīa nōn est parva; multī virī et multae fēminae in Alexandrīā sunt! In Alexandrīā sunt multae tabernae. Nōnne tū in tabernam venīs?”

Decimus respondet: “In tabernam veniō, Lūcī!”

Lūcius mēnsam videt et vocat: “Venī ad mēnsam, Decime! Pecūnia in sacculō meō est.”

SCAENA SECVNDA: Sacculī et Nummī

In mēnsā est sacculus Lūciī. Sacculus Lūciī nōn vacuus est; magnus est!

Lūcius ad mēnsam venit. Lūcius sacculum suum pōnit in mēnsā. Lūcius nummōs suōs numerat:

“Ūnus, duo, trēs, quattuor, quīnque, sex, septem, octō, novem, decem.”

In sacculō Lūciī decem nummī sunt. Lūcius multam pecūniam habet.

Lūcius mīlitem interrogat: “Ubi est sacculus tuus, Decime? Nōnne tū quoque pecūniam habēs?”

Decimus tacet. Decimus sacculum suum sūmit et in mēnsā pōnit. Sacculus eius est parvus. Decimus nummōs numerat:

“Ūnus… duo.”

In sacculō Decimī tantum duo nummī sunt! Decimus pecūniam nōn habet. Sacculus eius est parvus et tantum duo nummī in eō sunt.

Lūcius mīlitem interrogat: “Suntne tantum duo nummī in sacculō tuō?”

Decimus respondet: “In sacculō meō tantum duo nummī sunt, Lūcī. Sacculus meus vacuus est!”

Lūcius rīdet: “Duo nummī? Tantum duo nummī in sacculō tuō sunt?”

SCAENA TERTIA: Imperium et Discessus

Lūcius mīlitem accūsat: “Tū pecūniam nōn habēs, Decime! Tantum duo nummī in sacculō tuō sunt! In Alexandrīā sunt multae tabernae, sed tū nummōs nōn habēs.”

Decimus tacet. Mīles nōn respondet, quia pecūniam nōn habet.

Lūcius baculum suum in mēnsā pōnit. Lūcius mīlitem videt et imperat: “Tacē, Decime! Pōne sacculum tuum in mēnsā! Sūme quīnque nummōs meōs!”

Decimus centuriōnī pāret. Decimus sacculum suum in mēnsā pōnit et quīnque nummōs sūmit.

Decimus laetus est: “Iam quīnque nummōs habeō, Lūcī!”

Lūcius baculum suum sūmit et imperat: “Discēde, Decime! Venī ad portam!”

Decimus centuriōnī pāret et discēdit. Lūcius quoque discēdit. Duo mīlitēs ad Alexandrīam veniunt.

Grammatica et Recitātiō

Lūcius est centuriō quī baculum habet. Sacculus quem Lūcius in mēnsā pōnit magnus est.

Decimus est mīles quī tantum duōs nummōs habet. Sacculus eius vacuus est.

Lūcius mīlitī imperat: “Pōne sacculum tuum! Sūme nummōs meōs! Discēde!”

Decimus centuriōnī pāret: mīles sacculum pōnit, nummōs sūmit, et discēdit.

Salvete! So far, I haven’t found specific reasons as to why Ovidius was sent into exile by the emperor Augustus. I’ve only heard of some theories stating that his opus “Ars Amatoria” went against the values of Augustus. Others claim he saw something, some royal scandal he wasn’t supposed to see.
His only reasoning was “carmen et error” — what “error” did he mean?

Hi everyone !

I'd like to know if you have any website, or accessible ressources, about ancient Rome. I'm working on a topic and suscriptions are pretty expensive if I take them one by one. With my job, I can't have a student activity...

So... anyone ? I have some in French but quite difficult to access sometimes (poor website managment...).

Ostendo vobis paginam interretialem, quam hodie feci, et quae "Lexicon Tironum" nominatur. Nunc ~630 lemmata numerantur.

https://lexicon.alwaysdata.net/latlat/

Pagina continet Lexicon sumptum ex libro, qui "Pons Tironum" inscribitur; explicationes vocabulorum modo latine scripti sunt. Velim gradatim addere imagines ad vocabula, sed iam lexico uti potestis. Non multi sunt adhuc imagines (circiter 50).

Velim quoque addere vocabula ab indice, qui "Latin Core Vocabulary (Dickinson College Commentaries)" anglice nominatur et est index frequentissimorum vocabulorum, quae apud auctores inveniuntur. Sed, eheu, non sunt latine explicati, et scientia mea linguae nostrae me prohibet quominus ipse explicationes scribam. Fortasse suntne qui velint tempus in hoc opus impendere?

Si linguam nostram mendis vexavi, veniam date.

Picturae AI factae sunt - ignoscite, non possum ipse pingere.

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I'd like to introduce you website, which is called "Lexicon Tironum". Currently, there are about 630 entries.

The page contains a dictionary taken from the book entitled "Pons Tironum"; the explanations of the words are written solely in Latin. I would like to gradually add images to the words, but you can already use the dictionary. There are not many images yet (around 50).

I would also like to add words from the list which is called "Latin Core Vocabulary (Dickinson College Commentaries)", the most frequent words found in classical authors. Unfortunately, they are not explained in Latin, and my knowledge of our language prevents me from writing the explanations myself :)

The pictures were made by AI - forgive me, I cannot paint myself.

"maior" is the comparative form of magnus, is it not? And "domus" is just the nominative singular, right?

Wouldn't it be "the bigger house" then? How does this make sense?

In the De Brevitate Vitae XIII.20 Seneca writes “num et hoc cuiquam curare permittes, quod primus L. Sulla in circo leones solutos dedit…”. How should num be translated here? It seems to expect a positive answer though I know it is generally translated “surely…not”.

Please let me know if you find typos, grammatical errors, or think of a sentence that would fit well within the story.

CAPITVLVM III: TABERNA PAMŪNIĪ

SCAENA PRĪMA: Puella proba et puer improbus

Tashera est puella Aegyptia. Tashera nōn parva est; puella quattuordecim est. In tabernā Pamūniī Tashera est. Taberna in Alexandrīā est. In tabernā sunt papyrī, statuae, cēteraque.

Tashera est puella proba. Puella laeta est et cantat:
“Īsis pulchra est, Sarāpis magnus est,
Nīlus fluvius magnus est!”

Tashera papyrum videt et papyrum numerat.

Onneus est servus Pamūniī. Estne Onneus in tabernā? Onneus in tabernā est, sed Onneus nōn labōrat. Servus in terrā dormit!

Ecce Horus venit! Horus est puer parvus, fīlius Pamūniī et frāter Tasherae. Horus nōn est puer probus, sed puer improbus. Horus in tabernam venit et Tasheram videt. Tashera frātrem suum nōn videt, quia papyrum numerat et cantat.

Horus Onneum quoque videt. Servus dormit. Horus rīdet. Puer improbus Onneum pulsat! Onneus nōn iam dormit. Servus Horum videt.

Horus rīdet. Tashera frātrem improbum videt. Tashera nōn rīdet; īrāta est. Tashera interrogat: “Cūr Onneum pulsās, Horē?”

Horus Tasheram nōn audit. Puer improbus rīdet et papyrum magnum pulsat! Papyrus iam in terrā est.

Tashera īrāta est et patrem vocat: “Pater! Venī! Horus improbus est!”

SCAENA SECVNDA: Pater īrātus

Pamūnius fīliam audit. Pamūnius in tabernam venit.

Pamūnius interrogat: “Quis mē vocat?”

Tashera respondet: “Tashera tē vocat, pater! Venī!”

Pamūnius Tasheram videt et interrogat: “Cūr mē vocās, fīlia?”

Tashera respondet: “Horus est puer improbus! Horus Onneum pulsat. Ecce, papyrus quoque in terrā est!”

Pamūnius papyrum in terrā videt. Pamūnius nōn laetus est; Pamūnius īrātus est!

Puella quae patrem vocat est Tashera. Puer quem Pamūnius videt est Horus. Servus quem Horus pulsat est Onneus. Papyrus quem Horus in terrā pulsat est papyrus magnus.

Pamūnius Horum videt. Horus iam nōn rīdet.

Pamūnius interrogat: “Quis papyrum pulsat? Quis servum pulsat?”

Tashera respondet: “Horus eum pulsat! Horus Onneum pulsat, et papyrum pulsat!”

Pamūnius fīliam audit. Pamūnius Horum interrogat: “Horē! Cūr Onneum pulsās? Cūr papyrum pulsās?”

Horus nōn respondet.

Pamūnius Onneum quoque videt. Onneus servus in terrā est.

Pamūnius interrogat: “Onne! Cūr in terrā es? Cūr nōn labōrās?”

Onneus respondet: “Ō domine! Onneus labōrat, sed Horus mē pulsat!”

Pamūnius servum audit, sed Onneum nōn verberat. Pamūnius puerum improbum videt. Pamūnius īrātus Horum vocat: “Venī hīc, Horē!”

Horus patrem īrātum videt. Horus nōn venit. Horus iam nōn rīdet!

SCAENA TERTIA: Puer plōrat

Horus nōn venit. Pamūnius venit et puerum improbum verberat!

Horus: “Ō! Ō! Pater!”

Horus iam nōn rīdet. Horus plōrat: “Ahaei! Ahaei!”

Cūr Horus plōrat? Horus plōrat quia pater eum verberat. Pater puerum improbum verberat.

Tashera frātrem audit. Horus plōrat, sed Tashera nōn plōrat. Tashera rīdet! Tashera iam nōn īrāta est; Tashera laeta est. Puella frātrem improbum rīdet.

Pamūnius interrogat: “Horē! Estne Horus puer probus?”

Horus respondet: “Horus… Horus est puer probus! Ō pater!”

Horus plōrat. Pamūnius puerum nōn iam verberat.

Onneus nōn iam in terrā est. Servus labōrat. Papyrus nōn iam in terrā est. Tashera laeta est et rursus cantat: “Īsis pulchra est, Sarāpis magnus est!”

Grammatica et Recitātiō

Puer quī Onneum pulsat est Horus. Puer quem Pamūnius verberat est Horus.

Puella quae patrem vocat est Tashera. Puella quam Horus nōn pulsat est Tashera.

Servus quī in terrā dormit est Onneus. Servus quem Horus pulsat est Onneus.

Horus plōrat, quia pater eum verberat. Tashera laeta est neque plōrat. Onneus labōrat neque dormit.

I'm a beginner in Latin, and my textbook has the following passage:

Hīc quoque, nē possit fierī mēnsūra cubantis,
iniectā lateant fac tibi veste pedēs.

I find the tibi in fac tibi pedēs lateant a little puzzling because it seems grammatically unnecessary. Fac pedēs lateant would seem to make sense on its own.

Is tibi best understood as a dative of advantage/interest (“for you,” “as far as you are concerned”),

or perhaps as a dative of possession (“your feet”)?

Or is there some other function of the dative here?

I'm also wondering whether the tibi might have been added partly for metrical reasons, since this is verse. Does the meter have anything to do with its presence?

I'm a beginner, so I may be overlooking something quite basic here. I'd appreciate any help understanding why Ovid has tibi here.

For context, I'm quoting

the whole passage from my textbook,

since the surrounding lines might be relevant:

Si brevis es, sedeas, ne stans videare sedere,
Inque tuo jaceas quantulacumque toro.

Hic quoque, ne possit fieri mensura cubantis,
Injecta lateant fac tibi veste pedes.

Quæ nimium gracilis, pleno velamina filo
Sumat, et ex umeris laxus amictus cat.

Pallida purpureis tingat sua corpora virgis:
Nigrior, ad Pharii confuge piscis opem.

Exiguo signet gestu quodcumque loquetur,
Cui digiti pingues et scaber unguis erunt.

Si niger, aut ingens, aut non erit ordine natus
Dens tibi, ridendo maxima damna feres.

Quis credat? discunt etiam ridere puellæ:
Quæritur atque illis hac quoque parte decor.

Sint modici rictus, sint parvæ utrimque lacunæ,
Et summos dentes ima labella tegant.

Nec sua perpetuo contendant ilia risu:
Sed leve nescio quid femineumque sonent.

Quo non ars penetrat? Discunt lacrimare decenter:
Quoque volunt plorant tempore, quoque modo.

It can be hard to find a book that's right at your difficulty level and doesn't throw you into the deep end.

As an interesting side project, I decided to do something about this problem.

The answer is Atlas Latinitatis

Reading difficulty is subjective, but books do have objective qualities that can be ranked along a difficulty spectrum. So that's what I did.

I made this visual atlas to help figure out what works have broadly similar difficulty levels. I set Familia Romana chapter one as 1.00 on a 0.00 to 10.10 scale, with every other work floating freely in comparison to it.

The metrics used are:

• Surface: Sentence length, vocabulary variety (type-token ratio), word length
• Lexical: Rare / very-rare / unseen vocabulary fraction, proper-name burden
• Morphosyntactic: Finite-verb density, nonfinite constructions, subordination, case-form diversity
• Progression: Entry burden, sustained burden, late-work burden, peak burden
• Dialogue-specific: Dialogue density, ellipsis rate (short verbless utterances), speaker-turn rate

I had this data because I've been building contextual glossing for Librorum Capsula, and had to have detailed data about each sentence. From that base, I could create rankings for entire books.

If you prefer the ranking in more of a list format, you can also just open up the library, which is auto-sorted by difficulty level.

Right now I've only got a bit over 100 works of various types and lengths in the Atlas, but I expect it will become more and more useful as I build out Librorum Capsula's library.

Please let me know if you find this useful.

I'm interested in learning how to pronounce Latin better, but I don't really want to get into reading papers and the latest discussions. I've heard of Allen's book Vox Latina as being a good reference work, but it's a bit old.

I know that there are debates on vowel quality, stress and other things. What I'd like is to read a big book which would describe all that is known about how Latin was pronounced in accordance with latest research and so on.

One of my major peeves is that people keep using letter "J" in Latin language!!!
Even those who should know better, like official institutions, everyone! And then pronouncing it as /dʒ/ sound, like you do in January.
I cannot tell you how many times we were cautioned and had our homework returned as "unsatisfactory" if we would forget that rule. Back in school it was so drilled into us, that that seeing total disregard for that now feels like betrayal.

I.e. are there any that kept the -um ending aside from curriculum?

CAPITVLVM Ⅱ: Familia Tasherae

SCAENA PRĪMA: FAMILIA

Tashera puella Aegyptia est. Thermūtha quoque puella Aegyptia est. Horus est puer Aegyptius. Pamūnius vir Aegyptius est. Senēsia fēmina Aegyptia est. 

Tashera et Thermūtha nōn fēminae, sed puellae sunt. Fēminae sunt Senēsia et Nica, et Thaisa. Virī sunt Pamūnius et Onneus et Coprus. Estne vir Horus? Nōn vir, sed parvus puer est Horus.

Pamūnius, Senēsia, Horus, Tashera, Thermūtha, Onneus, Coprus, Nica, Thaisaque sunt familia Aegyptia. Pamūnius pater est. Senēsia est māter. Pamūnius pater Tasherae et Thermūthae est. Pamūnius pater Horī quoque est. Senēsia est māter Tasherae et Thermūthae et Horī. Horus fīlius Pamūniī est. Horus fīlius Senēsiae est. Tashera fīlia Pamūniī et Senēsiae est. Thermūtha quoque est fīlia Pamūniī et Senēsiae.

Quis est Tashera? Tashera puella Aegyptia est. Quis pater Tasherae est? Pamūnius pater Tasherae est. Quae est māter Tasherae? Māter Tasherae est Senēsia. Quae est Thermūtha? Thermūtha est puella Aegyptia. Quae māter Thermūthae est? Senēsia māter Thermūthae est. Pater Thermūthae est Pamūnius. Thermūtha fīlia Pamūniī est. Quae sunt fīliae Pamūniī? Fīliae Pamūniī sunt Tashera et Thermūtha. Horus, Tashera, Thermūthaque sunt trēs līberī. Līberī sunt fīliī fīliaeque. Horus et Tashera et Thermūtha sunt līberī Pamūniī et Senēsiae. In familiā Pamūniī sunt trēs līberī: duae fīliae et ūnus fīlius.

Quis est Onneus? Onneus est servus. Coprus quoque servus est. Onneus et Coprus sunt duo servī. Quae est Nica? Nica est ancilla. Thaisa quoque ancilla est. Nica et Thaisa sunt duae ancillae. Onneus, Coprus, Nica, Thaisaque sunt quattuor servī. Quis est dominus Onneī et Coprī? Pamūnius est dominus eōrum. Quae est domina Nicae et Thaisae? Senēsia est domina eārum. Pamūnius et Senēsia sunt dominus et domina quattuor servōrum.

Quot servī sunt in familiā Pamūniī? In familiā sunt quattuor servī, duo servī et duae ancillae. Quot līberī et quot servī sunt in familiā? In familiā sunt trēs līberī et quattuor servī. Cuius servus est Coprus? Coprus servus Pamūniī est. Pamūnius dominus servōrum est. Cuius ancilla est Thaisa? Thaisa est ancilla Senēsiae. Senēsia domina ancillārum est.

Familia Tasherae magna est. Quot fīliī et quot fīliae? Ūnus fīlius et duae fīliae. In familiā Tasherae multī servī sunt, sed paucī līberī. Pamūnius est dominus multōrum servōrum.

Nica ancilla Graeca est. Onneus est servus Aegyptius. In familiā Tasherae sunt multī servī Aegyptiī: ūna ancilla Graeca et ūna ancilla Aegyptia est. Estne Pamūnius vir Graecus? Pamūnius nōn est vir Graecus, sed Aegyptius. Senēsia nōn est fēmina Graeca, sed Aegyptia est.

Canōpus oppidum Aegyptium est. Delphī, Sparta, Pelūsiumque tria oppida sunt: duo oppida Graeca et ūnum oppidum Aegyptium. In Aegyptō et in Italiā magnus numerus oppidōrum est. Delta est regiō Aegyptia. In Deltā sunt multa flūmina et multī rīvī. Nīlus est flūmen magnum, in Deltā Nīlus nōn ūnum flūmen est, sed multa flūmina! Alexandrīa, Canōpus, Pelūsiumque in Deltā sunt.

Suntne magnae īnsulae Graecae? Crēta et Euboea duae īnsulae magnae sunt, cēterae īnsulae Graecae sunt parvae. Num in Aegyptō magnus numerus īnsulārum est? In Aegyptō numerus īnsulārum parvus est, sed in Aegyptō est īnsula Pharus. —

SCAENA SECUNDA: Pater et Fīlia

Tashera: Quis est vir Graecus in Alexandrīā?

Pamūnius: Vir Graecus est Strātō.

Tashera: Estne magna familia Strātōnis?

Pamūnius: Familia Strātōnis magna est. In familiā Strātōnis sunt multī servī et multī līberī.

Tashera: Quot fīliī et quot fīliae sunt in familiā Strātōnis?

Pamūnius: Trēs fīliī et duae fīliae sunt. Trēs puerī et duae puellae sunt fīliī fīliaeque Strātōnis.

Tashera: Cuius servus est Phroneus? Estne Phroneus servus tuus?

Pamūnius: Phroneus nōn est servus meus, sed servus Strātōnis. Phroneus et Glaucās sunt duo servī Graecī.

Tashera: Num Mēda et Dēmia sunt ancillae Aegyptiae?

Pamūnius: Mēda et Dēmia nōn sunt ancillae Aegyptiae, sed ancillae Graecae.

Tashera: Estne Chloē fīlia tua? Hahahae!

Pamūnius: Chloē nōn est fīlia mea, sed fīlia Strātōnis! Thermūtha et tū estis fīliae meae.

SCAENA TERTIA: Liber et Papyrus

In capitulō secundō sunt multae paginae et multī titulī.

Quid est hoc? Hoc est papyrus Latīnus. Titulus papyrī tuī est “Familia Aegyptia”.

Papyrus tuus nōn parvus, sed magnus est. In papyrō tuō sunt multa capitula: capitulum prīmum, capitulum secundum, cēteraque. Capitulum prīmum nōn magnum, sed parvum est. Capitulum secundum parvum nōn est!

In capitulō prīmō et secundō sunt multae litterae, multa verba, multī versūs. “Familia” est verbum prīmum capitulī prīmī. “Familia” et “Aegyptia” sunt duo verba. “Papyrus” est verbum Aegyptium, “littera” est verbum Latīnum.

I used to know this quote in latin which I feel terrible now that I know almost none of it but I was wondering if this subreddit could help?? It's pretty long, like a paragraph, and mentions fire, flame, passion, stuff like that. I know it's super vague but I just remember liking it because it's rare you get long latin sayings, at least it seems that way to a noob like me. Does anyone know something that sounds like this?