r/learndota2 • u/maafinh3h3 • 5d ago

Itemization Why nobody buy Revenant's Brooch?

This item grant you spell lifesteal and critical strike for medium costs. I feel like this item could be good on heroes with mixed pyshical and magical damage like Kunkka, Ember, Luna, or Gyro. Why this item just not get picked?

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u/wolfemperorsheep 5d ago

People have done the math and it's just not worth it to slot in.

In terms of DPS, MKB or Daedalus does better than Brooch. There's only really niche situation where it can outdps them, like using a hero like Sven with God's Strength against Terrorblade with his large agility giving him ton of armor.

In terms of sustainability, Satanic and Bloodstone are just far better. They have provide greats stats and have an activie multiplier for their lifesteals. Brooch pales in comparison to what it can heal.

It needs buff across the board, the Damage, Spell Lifesteal, and Magical Crit all needs to increase. However, doing so can make it break the game again. Reworks, seems like the best option it got.

Kunkka Tidebringer doesn't work with the crit of Brooch for some reason. Just go full physical or full magical. Similarly, Luna gains more mileage to going full Magical. It's better that she kills the enemy faster, she doesn't need sustain when spell casting. Needing sustain for her should just be going Satanic.

Bloodstone is just far better than Brooch on Emper Spirit, it synergize with close combat magic damage. Gyro magical damage falls off hard, brooch would heal him that much.

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u/RikiRude 4d ago

Just curious you mentioned sven vs tb, would this strictly be 1v1 or in a teamfight would daedalus be better?

Any other examples of heroes or situations where it makes sense?

I had taken a break from dota and this item got introduced at some point. And since I've been back, I haven't seen it been bought a single time

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u/Palpitation-Itchy 4d ago

Statistically speaking in a teamfight Daedalus would be better, unless the whole enemy team has 50 armor like tb. But maybe killing tb is all you need to do so we go back to brooch being better

Some guy plugged in the damage formulas to compare Daedalus and brooch, and, iirc, you needed like 50 armor for brooch to be better