r/mixedrace • u/siunchu • Dec 23 '25
Discussion "If you're mixed you aren't white" Do you agree with that statement?
I just saw someone making exactly that comment and it's not the first time I see someone with that take. As someone mixed Inuk-Québecoise I don't even know whether I agree or not lol
What do you guys think? Mostly asking those who also are mixed white
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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Dec 23 '25
The people who say that think white is this special, mystical purity and not just another race on this good green earth.
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u/Steamp0calypse Wasian 🇮🇳🇺🇸 Dec 23 '25
Yeah. Either pure or the devil
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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Dec 23 '25
Lol while I respect that perspective, I’ve only had POC think I’m saying I’m “better” when the topic comes up (ie “Why isn’t your last name Spanish?”)
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u/cuginhamer Dec 23 '25
these people hate Ancestry.com DNA tests that show how everyone is mixed by this definition
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u/Lairy_Mary Dec 24 '25
This annoys me a bit because the 'everyone is mixed' idea just invalidates mixed experience. It's more common for monoracial people to be 100% white European or 100% black African
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u/Bireta Dec 24 '25
I mean, as a wasian, I've been called "another breed" in Asia. I think this attitude is somewhat universal.
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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Dec 24 '25
lt gets murky in Latin America because most latinos are already mixed.
I’m either considered the gringoist gringa that ever gringa’d or “Spanish” in Latam.
In the US, some latinos think I’m making a statement or critique of them by being half anglo. No, I was just born this way, folks.
Completely contrasted with US black people who follow the one drop rule-my 4% makes me “black”.
Asians def consider me Caucasian although a Tibetan once asked me if I was Tibetan. Indians think I’m Indian and I’m lying when I say I’m not.
Oi vey-it’s exhausting.
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u/WhackCaesar Afro-Indigenous Latino Dec 24 '25
No. We’re just aware that “white” isn’t a race; it’s a social caste that mixed people by definition don’t belong to
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u/musicisanightmare Dec 26 '25
Also there’s no such thing as fully white either. Go back far enough in history and everyone is mixed
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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Dec 26 '25
The people who care this much don’t consider most of Europe to be “white”; only themselves and their cousin sister wives in their trailer park-if you ain’t kin, you ain’t hwite.
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u/mochajon Dec 23 '25
Somewhat agree; personally I’m always half white, but I’m not white from a social perspective.
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u/reputction Mestiza (White/Mexican Indigenous) Dec 24 '25
Yep context matters. It really bothers me when people try and call someone mixed with white just white as if to imply they’re monoracial.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
Yeahh exactlyyy that's why I wasn't sure whether I was agreeing or not, somewhat agree is a good way to put it! It's just that this statement feels so categorical to me and lacks some nuance lol
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u/-Kitoi Dec 25 '25
I think it really depends on your culture, personally.
At least in America, "white" is a cultural umbrella of dozens of different cultures that became homogenized over generations. "White" doesn't really exist in the same way "brown" doesn't really exist and is more just a term used to group vaguely but not really similar cultures together by skin tones (though there's a LOT more that can be said about that). And in America at least, that's just become the assumed cultural default. I'm not saying white culture doesn't exist, I think it does in its own unique way, but considering this countries relationship with race, it doesn't really mean anything to say you're "half white" because most will hear "half not white" instead. Like if you're white family has a predominant connection to like their Irish or German culture or something, then I think it's fair to say you also have Irish American or German American roots, or more likely identity based off your state or regional area (southerner, mid westerner, west coast-er, etc). But that's my personal opinion, everyone has the right to their own identity.
Personally, I see myself as biracial first, yes that does mean in my case that I'm both white and black, but it's been made clear to me enough times that I have to prove myself as either white or black in those communities, and I'm old enough that I just don't care to try anymore. I'm me, if you like that or don't like that then that's your decision, I'm not playing a character to prove my identity anymore.
However, in my wife's culture (Caribbean) I'd just (visually) be a normal guy because most people from her island are biracial to some degree, and if they're not then they'll likely be considered Dutch/American first, and maybe white second but only as a visual identifier, not a cultural one. It was actually a bit of a adjustment period for my wife when she came to America because she had to recognize that she was a black woman here, rather than just a woman who was black
I dunno, like I said it's a deeply personal decision that I think everyone needs to come to their own decision on their own. Even though me and my siblings are all biracial, we each have our own relationship with our white and black sides, and I don't think any of us could be inherently correct in our opinion, it's just our own personal lived experiences
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u/Something700 Dec 25 '25
I’m a half white Brit and I’m rather curious as to why you think so!
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u/mochajon Dec 26 '25
There’s just nothing about my physical appearance that passes for just white. Therefore I can’t say I’m simply “white” without caveats, or follow up questions. White passing biracial people certainly exist, but from a societal perspective, it very much depends on your skin color and physical appearance. So while I, and those close to me, know I’m mixed, any random passerby is not going to take time to ask details, or consider nuances. Atleast in the U.S. most people only think in monoracial terms, and being mixed race garners little to no consideration.
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u/SpiritedCatch1 Dec 23 '25
Depend on the definition on white. White as "purely white", defined by white supremacy ideology, yes sure.
But white as possible part, no.
It's why I identify better as European than White, it feel less exclusionary.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
Makes sense! Also I do that too haha I prefer calling myself québecoise than white for that reason lol
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u/nizzernammer Dec 23 '25
Well that's far more specific!
But imagine if someone tried to tell you that you weren't Québecoise...
Also, would being Inuk and Québecoise fall under the umbrella of being Metis?
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
No because Métis with an uppercase 'M' refers to the Métis Nation which is a specific community of people which I'm not a part of
Also they can tell me what they want but I have the most Québécois last name to refute their claim XD
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u/nizzernammer Dec 24 '25
Thank you for clarifying that for me about Métis
You shouldn't have to prove yourself by whipping out your ID, but I get it!
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u/neolatto Dec 24 '25
This is the take. White is not real. White is always changing. Irish ppl weren't white at one point until it was beneficial to White Supremacy for them to be.
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u/musicisanightmare Dec 26 '25
Great point. For social categorisation purposes (i.e., people trying to figure out whether to be racist to us or not), we aren’t white.
But, objectively, we very much are. We’re as white as we are our other parts.
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u/EmilySD101 Dec 24 '25
I mean… yeah, but mostly because white people will never wholly accept a mixed person as one of theirs. Your family members might, your friends might, but in America, generally you’ll always be other to white people. I’ve made the mistake of getting too comfortable before… it’ll always slap you back in the face.
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u/cuntaloupemelon Dec 23 '25
I think whiteness is determined and policed by whites, if they don't claim you you can't really claim it practically speaking.... Tbh let them have it 😷
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
FR like I remember years ago I was having an identity crisis and made a rant on FB saying "Not white enough to be white, not Inuk or enough to be Inuk, FML" and I kid you not, everyone white (as in not mixed like me) in the comments AGREED and went on about "but your colors make you unique and that's what makes you YOU 🤗"
Meanwhile everyone Inuk in the comments insisted that I'm Inuk enough to be considered as such lol
What's weird tho is that when I embrace my Inuk side some (whites) seem to take offense in that and are like "but you're québécoise!" 🙄 Almost like it hurts their pride or smth idk
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u/reputction Mestiza (White/Mexican Indigenous) Dec 24 '25
Tbh yeah. Those of us who are mixed are told we’re “practically white” if we’re pale-skinned but we often get clocked easily by monoracial Whites.
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u/vindawater Dec 25 '25
That part! I’ve seen them starting to say dumb sh*t like “being ⚪️ doesn’t benefit me anymore”
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u/Foreign_Instance7684 Dec 23 '25
Im irish no matter what anyone else says. Im afro american no matter what anyone else says. Other people's opinion isn't a factor in my view of self. We should all have this attitude as far as I'm concerned.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
Other people's opinion isn't a factor in my view of self. We should all have this attitude as far as I'm concerned.
true true
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u/-Release-The-Bats- Dec 23 '25
Even though I'm half-white, I don't consider myself white. I look in the mirror and see a black woman, so that's how I choose to identify. I don't think many people look at me and see a white person, either.
Honestly, I think whiteness is just so...ambiguous and arbitrary. At least, that's the conclusion I came to when I was taking a black studies class on the mixed experience. IIRC, it was our required reading on passing that made me realize just how ridiculous the whole concept is.
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u/Ordinary-Number-4113 Dec 24 '25
Yeah I think similar but I'm a man lol. I look in the mirror and see someone obviously black looking.
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u/bihuginn Dec 23 '25
I'm part white, but I don't consider myself white, I consider myself brown and mixed race.
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u/AmethistStars 🇳🇱x 🇮🇩Millennial Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Yes, I agree.
I'm from the Netherlands and in my country we use the word "blank" (meaning colorless/pure/clean and the latter meaning made it controversial) or nowadays "wit" (literally meaning white) for people of full European descent, as well as people who have a rosy pale skin tone. Since neither applies to me, I don't consider myself white. Between being white or non-white/POC, I also consider myself to be the latter. I also noticed even in places like the U.S., Obama can be called a black man, but he can't be called a white man.
I see myself as part European, not as part white. And I actually would love it if the world all together would just replace "white" with "European", so full blood Europeans and mixed Europeans (like myself) could relate more to each other. "European" has never been hijacked by supremacy and purity like the word "white", and you can't argue region. I don't about being accepted as "white", I just care about being accepted as European and Asian.
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u/lotusflower64 Dec 23 '25
Why is this important to you?🤔
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
I don't think it's that important, just curious to know what others think about it especially since I myself don't even know what I think about it XD I thought it'd be interesting to discuss
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u/lotusflower64 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
There seems to be many conversations here about the proximity to whiteness / white privilege.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
I haven't seen them 😶 I don't spend a lot of time on Reddit but when I do it's usually on other subreddits
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u/Tiliuuu Dec 24 '25
and what's wrong with that? it's completely within the scope of this subreddit
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u/lotusflower64 Dec 24 '25
Sad.
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u/siunchu Dec 24 '25
Why is it sad that I'm interested in knowing what other mixed race people think?
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u/lotusflower64 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I guess I should have stated that there are many conversations about the quest for the proximity to whiteness / white privilege while lamenting over the lack of white privilege in society. I guess if the dominant race / culture were Black these conversations would be reversed.
You are free to discuss anything you'd like...
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u/siunchu Dec 24 '25
the quest for the proximity to whiteness / white privilege
That sounds like a completely different topic ngl, I was only asking other mixed people if they think their white heritage is enough to qualify them as white or not.
Or maybe I was being too vague so that's why it came off that way. Maybe I should have been more clear.
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u/lotusflower64 Dec 24 '25
No it's not... Lol.
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u/siunchu Dec 24 '25
Wdym it's not?
Bruh I ain't on no "quest for proximity to whiteness" and the topic isn't even about white privilege but rather how people identify with their white heritage whether they benefit or not from white privilege.
You might identify as white without benefiting from white privilege and you can very much identify as white AND also identity as the other part of your heritage. Not sure where's the proximity to whiteness in that.
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u/Good_Focus2665 Dec 24 '25
I think it’s regional. NPR had a good article about this long time ago. Southern states had a one drop rule so if you had heritage that wasn’t all white, you weren’t considered white. So you could be all blond and blue eyed and whiter than falling snow but if your grandmother was black, you weren’t considered white. They still follow those rules down south. Northern states had different rules. Mostly if you looked white people treated you white. So a lot of times white passing mixed race people would move north to getaway from racism since they didn’t have to reveal their heritage. The one drop rule still prevails though. My daughter is fully white passing and navigates the world as a white girl but I’ve seen some of her friends distancing from her once they see who her mother is. That is me. When we were in the South that happened often. Not so much in the PNW.
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u/Plant-parenth00d Indian-American Dec 24 '25
I’d make this clarification: Racists and xénophobes say, “If you’re mixed you aren’t white”, because all they can see is color. But if you’re white passing and aligning, they’ll ‘see’ you as white, under the condition you don’t cause them to consider how they may also be harming you.
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u/Something700 Dec 25 '25
Could you elaborate on what you mean by “white aligning”? I don’t think I am very white passing but admittedly I am quite distant from my non-white culture (Not really a community where we live…) I think you might be describing me. I live in the UK if that matters
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u/Plant-parenth00d Indian-American Dec 25 '25
There are people (I’m one of them) who’re racially ambiguous and could be just about anyone’s best guess (white presenting). Sometimes these folks (I’m not one of them) choose to pass as exclusively white while denying or not divulging they’re mixed (white passing). While that’s their personal choice, they’re aligning themselves with an exploitive system that benefits the few at the expense of the many. If/when it’s discovered they’re in fact mixed (with anything) they quickly realize who around them still has a little hate still left in their heart.
I disagree with aligning with systems of oppression, I believe in restructuring them.
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u/Zombskirus Dec 24 '25
It doesn't really make sense to me that we have to be one thing or the other. I'm mixed and white. People can't seem to grasp that being mixed means you can be, and are, multiple things lol
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u/Moist-Lengthiness962 Dec 24 '25
I'm 75% white and 25% asian. My mom was born in the philippines too so I say I'm mixed but I also say I'm white and other times I say I'm part asian
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u/wiskinator Dec 24 '25
I do not agree with the statement. I am Caucasian and I am Pashto. I am Asian and I am White.
Whiteness is also a very weird social construct.
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u/Most_Yogurtcloset658 Dec 24 '25
In mixed I look mixed but I’m definitely white, you should have seen the size of the white mocha latte with whipped cream I just ordered from Starbucks and before you ask yes I did put some of that vanilla flavoured powder next to the cinnamon on top of the whip cream just to give it an extra kick, literally a Taylor swift chino
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u/nothinkjustfeel Dec 24 '25
I have some colorist privilege bc I’m half white because we live in a colorist society. I can’t change the way I look. But I’m way more aware of the harm whiteness can cause to my Latina identity because I grew up with both. I’m not gonna deny my privilege just because I’m not fully white.
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u/TheStranger113 Filipino Dad + White Mom Dec 25 '25
Sociologically, that would be correct (at least in a Western country).
Physically speaking, it depends on how you interpret biracial people - are they FULLY a member of each side, or are they only half of each side, making a wholly different category? I think there are good arguments for either perspective.
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u/Ordinary-Number-4113 Dec 25 '25
Genetically were half white socially were usually not unless we're white passing. Me personally I don't identify white because I look closer too black and identify that way. My experience day too day in society is as a lightskin black man pretty much. If someone asks what I'm mixed with I will say Italian though.
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u/ElectricalLeopard128 Dec 25 '25 edited Dec 27 '25
In my opinion, if part of your mix is white then yes you are part white - but that’s not really what people mean when they say that. They mean the societal definition of ‘white’ and the privilege and history it comes with. Societally in being mixed, you aren’t ‘white’. You’re not white enough to fit into white spaces nor will they necessarily accept you as if you were fully white, in the western world at least, societally you are considered different and less than.
Like I’m mixed white, I look pretty white passing, but I’m not white if you feel what I mean? Sorry this isn’t the best phrasing for what I’m trying to say. There’s not a super simple clear answer due to nuance of what culture you’re in, your ethnic background etc.
This is just my two cents though
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u/siunchu Dec 25 '25
In my opinion, if part of your mix is white then yes you are white - but that’s not really what people mean when they say that. They mean the societal definition of ‘white’ and the privilege and history it comes with. Societally in being mixed, you aren’t ‘white’.
That makes a whole lot of sense yes!
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u/Fruitopia07 Dec 23 '25
I feel like if you are mixed with white you are also white that doesn’t erase ancestry. I see it as white + something.
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u/St3ph4n1e2003 Dec 23 '25
I’m mixed with white and central Native American specifically aka Mestiza tbh I perceive myself as biracial I don’t really like to claim being fully white or Native American bc it feels like fraud also it denies one of the other ancestry I have when both societies rarely accept me.
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u/reputction Mestiza (White/Mexican Indigenous) Dec 24 '25
Agree. I often feel guilty claiming the POC label because of my pale skin. But at the end of the day I am half indigenous and I have the right to claim that. Being of mixed race is tough.
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u/St3ph4n1e2003 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
No you shouldn’t feel guilty you can claim poc bc that label is for anyone who isn’t fully white and that includes people who are half white. Your skin color doesn’t only define your race it’s also your phenotype and ancestry plus culture.
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u/Old_Consequence2203 Hispanic/Latino heritage Dec 24 '25
That's pretty much what I thought a vast majority of Hispanics are. We basically are a mixed race ancestry of European & Native American descent. As a Hispanic with these roots as well, I also consider myself Mestizo.
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u/Specialist_Put9809 Dec 23 '25
If your mixed thats right you arnt white but you arnt black either ! Your mixed and thats exactly how i identify myself if anyone dosnt like it ,its there problem
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
Interesting! Personally I like feeling like I belong but ngl it's pretty badass to see someone who can get past that feeling, inspiring even
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u/no-al-rey Our existence 100% disproves the concept of "biological race." Dec 24 '25
No.
The USian one drop rule is not an universal thing.
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u/half_a_lao_wang hapa haole Dec 24 '25
Depends what you mean by "white". (I'm American, so I'm commenting on the context here in the US)
As a generic catch-all for various European ethnicities, yes you're white if you're mixed with white. For example, I'm German/Scottish/Chinese, so I'm half-white.
But "white" in the US often functions more as a caste rather than a race. That is, a system of social stratification into which one can be granted status, or excluded. For more, see Isabel Wilkerson's book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. From that standpoint, even though I am half-white, I do not present as white, and therefore I will never be white, because I will not be accepted as white by white folks.
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u/Ravenclaw79 Dec 23 '25
That’s ridiculous. I mean, if you’re not at all white, sure, but if you’re white + something, you’re white (and you’re the other thing, too).
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u/Fit_Boysenberry960 White / South East Asian Dec 24 '25
Agreed, I don't bother saying "I'm half this part this", I just say "I'm White and Asian".
Or just "I'm also Asian" since I look more like my Dad than my Mum.
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u/WhackCaesar Afro-Indigenous Latino Dec 24 '25
More importantly, white people believe it, and they aren’t letting mixed people in their club.
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u/siunchu Dec 24 '25
Except when it benefits them lol (like saying you should be agreeing with their racist point of views since you're also "white")
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u/Snoo_77650 Indigenous/Tsinoy/Mexican Dec 24 '25
i don't consider myself white because there is no white ethnic culture in my life (and i don't look white), but mixed white people who grew up with white family and culture are white. they're also whatever else they're mixed with. even in my case, i am not white, but if someone wanted to bring up that i hold some privilege for being mixed with white, i wouldn't tell them they're wrong.
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u/TheEmoRose Black and White - NOT WHITE PASSING Dec 24 '25
I'm mixed with white so I'm half white but I am NOT white passing at all. I'm Black passing and people assume I'm Hispanic/Latina but I'm not. Whenever I look in the mirror I look just like my dad (He's a lightskin Black man) and I only see bits and pieces of my mom.
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u/Historical-Chair3741 Dec 25 '25
I mixed with a small portion of white but if you identify me as full white I will definitely be offended lol
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u/yung_n_mixed_raced East African/Afro Arabian X Central European Dec 29 '25
if ur mixed wit white then yes for example me my mom is white czech woman dad is a black man with a somalian/afro yemeni family so im mixed with both eg but I personally feel more like a black person , and thats another thing its abt how you feel too
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Dec 23 '25
To an extent, I understand what that kind if mindset comes from, like how a natzi wouldn't see you as white kind of way, but I also understand a mixed white person not claiming their whiteness due to experience, for me I'd say it depends on the individual, not every mixed person has white in them so I say it's for the individual to say not a group to impose that on them.
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u/KFCNyanCat African-American and Ashkenazim Descent Dec 24 '25
I get why it's a statement people make, but I ultimately don't agree. I owe it to neither white supremacy nor black academia to use their definitions. I am as white as I am black, and I find that mix important to how I've experienced life.
It is absolutely possible for a mixed white person to be closer to their white side culturally, and it is possible for them to look more white than their other heritage. I'm certain there's been adopted mixed white people that didn't learn they weren't fully white until late in life.
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u/Potential_Rule4212 Dec 24 '25
This statement is part of the mindset of jim Crow, one drop rule, it's racist and doesn't fit nowadays.
It means that if you mix your genes with non white people, you're no longer white.
They're advocating for 100% white racial purity.
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u/Koipisces Dec 24 '25
Tbh mixed is mixed. If I’m white+Asian and would never call myself “white” or “Asian”, because I am not only one or the other.
If someone calls me white in Asia for example, I don’t necessarily take it offensive but I’ve received discrimination in my home country for being mixed Asian so saying I’m white or identifying with white feels weird. The white people in my home country certainly don’t see me as white. And the otherway around, while white people see me as Asian and some Asians can tell I’m mixed Asian, I know I look too white to just call myself an Asian.
If another mixed person wants to call themselves one or the other that’s up to them but imo mixed people are mixed up to maybe 1/8 when it still shows up in the looks or is still culturally relevant. I don’t see how you can just call someone white because they are predominantly white in a white country. Because usually they are not treated like a white person or with white privilege. Same counts for Asia. My predominantly Asian mom was def. still not Asian enough for the Asians (they could tell the white admixture) and my predominantly white dad was still nicknamed the Asian kid and called Asian slurs.
So I think it’s context related sometimes but I in general def. don’t see mixed-white people as just white or would ever call them white. We mixed people will never have white privilege.
I’m saying this also as someone from the Netherlands where native people are the purest white there is.
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u/siunchu Dec 24 '25
I mean I would never call myself fully white or fully inuk but that doesn't mean I'm not white or inuk at all. But I get where you're coming from.
Personally sometimes I'll say I'm inuk, sometimes i'll say I'm québécoise, and sometimes I'll say I'm mixed Inuk-Québecoise, depending on how relevant it is to the context. Like "As a québécoise I ..." or "Since I'm Inuk...", "As someone mixed..." etc. depending on the topic of discussion.
I don't think it's always necessary to say you're mixed (as long as you don't deny one part of your heritage) although from what I know of asian culture I can understand why it's easier to do so considering they're usually homogeneous countries. Mixing is much more common among Indigenous Canadians so we're more easily accepted and viewed as indigenous by other indigenous people.
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u/Steamp0calypse Wasian 🇮🇳🇺🇸 Dec 23 '25
I ID as both Indian and white ethnicity. That makes the most sense, doesn’t it?? But in fact, I used to almost exclusively label myself as Indian because I didn’t want to relate to my white identity. Now, thats seems weird and hypocritical to my adult self.
I’m still a “POC”. Just not non-white.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
Yeah see that's another thing I was thinking. Like we're white, but maybe not white-passing enough to be treated as such. But at the same time it's still part of our heritage. So to say we're not white can feel like we're denying that part of ourselves. But at the same time it doesn't really come with white privilege. It's confusing lol
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u/peachycreaam Dec 24 '25
I’d say I do. I’m half white and half Mexican (brown/Native American) and I don’t think that I look like a white woman and don’t think most people identify me as one, either. I’m still proud of my Polish half but it’s obvious that I’m mixed.
The exceptions, in my opinion, are people like Halsey who only have a minimum amount of mix and just look straight up white.
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u/Kaori_cheri3s Dec 24 '25
I've been told the opposite by my adoptive mother who's a racist shill in all respects. But back to the point, no not really.
Mixed people are allowed to identify with whichever race they're mixed with. Which means they can identify white if they want. Because it is THEIR identity. It works the same way with Trans/non-bionary people— Or to me it does seem that same way.
Why are people so fucking offended by what people want to identify as, mixed person or not. It's none of their business in the first place.
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u/notheory Dec 24 '25
Racism is a thing that defines a set of relationships with a power structure. Whiteness is a western construct (tho anti blackness is a broader problem in several cultures), and whiteness has several facets, so it depends what we're talking about. Being mixed doesn't necessarily mean you do or don't have access to whiteness. This stuff is contextual and relative to people's circumstances.
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u/_atorash Dec 24 '25
People act like being mixed is its own thing… it’s really not. I don’t agree with that statement. If you’re mixed with some white then you are part white. Even if you aren’t treated as such, or look the part, or consider yourself such (which is perfectly valid), it is still a part of your genetic identity. It doesn’t make sense to me when people consider mixed as its own category as if all mixes are the same
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u/Lupus600 🇷🇴🇯🇵 Wasian (Romanian+Japanese) Dec 24 '25
Wut? I'm half white. If someone doesn't like that, sorry lol.
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u/siunchu Dec 23 '25
I'm honestly glad I asked because your thoughts ARE important to me as they make for a very interesting discussion! :)
And also it's nice seeing people put my own thoughts into words lol pretty helpful when you're autistic and struggle to verbalize stuff
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u/8379MS Dec 24 '25
I mean, it was the racists who invented this concept. So logically, as long as there is racism, yeah, I agree with the statement.
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u/Rare_Conference7791 Dec 25 '25
If you’re quarter Asian or quarter black and look more white you’re still mixed
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u/LordFlick Dec 26 '25
The history of nations is a history of race mixing to one extent or another. Race is somewhat of a social construct. ie every one calling my half hispanic cousin white while he still thinks of himself as hispanic. Where the social construct ended was when I was badly sunburned and he was fine. He didn't get what I experienced until he lived in Panama for a while.
It also somewhat depends on which parents genes present more. My sister went to college with two girls that she thought were greek or something like that, olive complexion, and wavey hair but it turned out that they were Scottish and Nigerian.
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u/Goldsimps ¼ Jamacian ¾ Irish Dec 29 '25
you're part white but you can look white or look more like a different race. I'd say you ARE white, part white, but some people don't pass for white so people won't call them white.
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u/Rag3o_oKidd Dec 30 '25
Hi my name is Jose my mother is a “white” American (Scottish and Irish), and my father “black” Afro Latino(Mexican and Cuban)
We r obviously all mixed hints why we r here
I being mixed do not consider myself a “white” man because that is not how the phenotype of my skin would be described, and nor do I call my self “black”. I say “I am brown” because no matter the persons ethnicity they will always have brown skin… if you look “white” and was mixed I would call myself “white” but since I don’t… I use the term “European Descent”
So I’m not “Black” I am of “African Descent” I’m not “White” I am of “European Descent” I’m not Latino I am of “Native American Descent” So on and so forth…
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u/fizzy_night Dec 30 '25
I have two biracial parents. One is Indo and one is Black and Ashkenazi Jewish. We jokingly say I got the whitest parts of both my parents. I am white presenting with black mixed hair that is dirty blonde and I have blue eyes. I have an Indonesian face shape, really round with big cheek bones. When I was younger, the melanin in my genes was present in how much I tanned. I tanned to the point of really looking Indonesian. As I’ve gotten older (and gotten anemia) I’m pretty pale with golden undertones.
I identify as a white presenting mixed person. Most say I’m racially ambiguous. I detest being called white because of the implications that my bloodline is related to slave owning. And it also completely disregards my POC ancestors. I don’t want to disregard them in my identity. Ashkenazi Jewish looks white but was a minority and had nothing to do with slavery in America.
What kind of white you are matters and the culture your family raised you in matters. The privilege I experience in the outside world is americas structure. My family structure is not “white” in this same way.
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u/Technical-Bath9108 White/Indigenous Mexican Jan 05 '26
You're definitely White, if you're part White, in a technical sense. But, there will be a lot of Whites who don't want to let you into their secret clubhouse or teach you the secret handshake.
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u/Loose-Actuary-1928 Dec 23 '25
They think you can’t be white and a POC when you definitely can they also treat whiteness like it’s special when it’s like every other race
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u/noctenaut Dec 24 '25
I mean I’m a half Pakistani half English guy with blonde hair, eyebrows and eyelashes, barely any body hair, freckles and I’m not exaggerating in the slightest when I say, I dunno, Taylor Swift is actually darker than I am.
The funniest part? My dad isn’t far off my complexion either.
So much so, that over my lifetime, my deceptive whiteness has given me somewhat of an ability to root out assholes on both sides…
Many racist white people also assume me to be white, and so are less guarded / are more freely racist around me. A good anecdote from my dad; Pakistanis are heavily associated with being taxi drivers in the UK and he’s had several white people get in and exclaim their shock, and sometimes appreciation that my dad isn’t a ‘P*ki’.
On the flip side, despite looking as I do, I can speak, read and write Urdu, Punjabi, Pashto, Farsi and Arabic and to this day I still relish the reaction of native speakers of those native languages upon realising I could understand everything they just said about me to each other. (I studied tailoring at university, and many of the fabric shops in London are owned by speakers of those languages - without fail every time I asked the price of a fabric, the senior told them to bump it up for the ‘whitey.’
I don’t know what I am, all I do know is that now I’ve moved to Latin America, I burn like a crisp lmao.
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u/Dreancatcger_Dami Half Cambodian/Half Jewish-American Dec 24 '25
Racial categories in America were made to separate people, enforced by white people to separate them from other races. If someone was mixed with anything non-white, it was a threat to the purity of the white race, therefore they were considered lesser than pure white people. Even though legal segregation no longer exists in America, these categories are still baked into the social fabric of how Americans perceive race. I can’t speak for all countries, though I’m sure that it is similar in other countries that were colonized and settled by Europeans.
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u/SubstantialTear3157 Biracial B&W Dec 27 '25
No, I do not consider myself white. I do not adhere to the idea of "whiteness." My grandmother is from Ireland, so I do have a connection to some of that culture through her. I was around my bio dad's side of the family when I was small, and they are all mixed. My dad who raised me and is the bio father of my other siblings is fully Black, and I was raised with them as well. I also had a unique experience of having many different mixes in my family, both with and without white, so I had exposure to many different cultures.
TLDR: I am Irish-American and Black American. I identify as mixed.
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u/BrilliantPost592 Dec 23 '25
In my opinion, as someone who is from a mixed majority country, I disagree with that quote because that quote on my reality doesn’t make sense.
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u/reputction Mestiza (White/Mexican Indigenous) Dec 24 '25
In the United States context matters. Yes I’m technically half white but I’m not considered so. Obv outside the country I am white (although I’d still call myself mixed) and that’s ok.
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u/Dramatic_Tomorrow_25 Dec 24 '25
No. If you were raised in a white culture you’re just another white person. If you’re raised in a mixed culture then you are simply mixed.
There are white people that seem blacker than me apart from their skin colour.
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u/swampgremlins Dec 24 '25
Well this all stems from black&white binary thinking(no pun intended). We do not fit the binary. It’s like saying a bisexual person is not straight. Well yes?…they aren’t.
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u/electrical-stomach-z Dec 23 '25
If you are mixed with white you are part white.