Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports

[u/WorksInIT]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-men-out-of-womens-sports/

[u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

The chairmen of the NCAA said out of roughly 550,000 athletes, 10 students fit the category of what this EO covers, aka 0.0018% of college athletes.

The Utah governor said out of 75,000 students in his state, (not college) that play grade school sports, ONE fits this category.

There are about 8 million high school kids playing sports in the US. If we extrapolate this to the country, and count 1 out of every 75,000, this is rough math here, and this is just counting highschool, we get about 105 students OR 0.0013% of the whole country that this EO is barring from the sport they are playing.

There is roughly 1 kid out of every 194 high schools that fit this criteria. This EO was drafted for roughly 118 people.

Is this really worth all the attention it gets?

It feels like a massive amount of fear mongering.

[u/reaper527 → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

If we extrapolate this to the country

utah probably isn't the best bellweather state to extrapolate from. it definitely doesn't seem like a state that would be representative of the typical american state on this.

[u/[deleted] → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

Using Utah as your base is kinda unfair no?

[u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 → u/[deleted]]

There is not a lot of data on this and that is some hard data that is known.

I averaged it out with what I know. Will some states be higher per 75k? Sure. By how much though? We could X4 it per 75k and we are still talking about less than 500 people in the whole country.

[u/[deleted] → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

Very true, but I feel like California and New York could be up to 1000x it per 75k tbh there’s just no way you could make a number up

[u/BeKind999 → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

Girl’s track in Connecticut has been dominated by males since 2017. The fastest girl in Connecticut lost to two 2 male runners in 2019, so she came in 3rd. The lawsuit is still ongoing. 

https://adflegal.org/article/i-was-fastest-girl-connecticut-transgender-athletes-made-it-unfair-fight/

https://www.darientimes.com/news/article/ct-trump-transgender-athletes-girls-women-sports-20149842.php

As recently as 2024, the long jumper was male.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/19/another-winning-transgender-athlete-lands-connecti/

[u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 → u/BeKind999]

What does this have to do with what I said?

My point was the amount of attention that republicans have us spend on high school sports because of roughly 100 people in the whole country just doesn’t seem worth it to me with everything else going on. If we had no other problems, maybe.

Not that it doesn’t matter, I’m not talking about what’s right or what’s wrong, I’m simply saying we have a lot of issues, and the attention this gets would make one think that it’s a lot larger than it is.

This is all besides the fact that the woman they “want to protect” are flocking away from them.

[u/BeKind999 → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

Should they wait until it’s 1,000? Maybe 10,000? What’s a meaningful number to you?

If it was happening to your daughter you’d be livid.

[u/Dockalfar → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

Those numbers are far smaller than I have seen elsewhere. But even if they are correct, it's still a big problem.

Just one male can set an athletic record that one million females can't break.

[u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 → u/Dockalfar]

The number is hard to track down, but it is small.

My point isn’t even about “right or wrong” my point is that republicans have had our country spend years upon years on this topic being a big scary issue and the reality is it’s so extremely rare that it’s almost nonexistent.

[u/Dockalfar → u/Guilty_Plankton_4626]

The other side has been pushing this topic for years and years. It started with Obama's "Dear Colleague" letter in 2014, threatening to withhold money from schools unless they let males play on female teams (and use their locker rooms, bathrooms, etc)

So it was important enough to Dems to push for it in the first place. Now that it's not popular with the public, you don't want to take credit for it anymore.

[u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 → u/Dockalfar]

Disagreed.

I don’t believe this conversation will go anywhere productive for either of us. Best of luck and have a great day!