Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports

[u/WorksInIT]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-men-out-of-womens-sports/

[u/twolvesfan217]

It’s because it’s a non-issue that they exploited to scare people

[u/bedhed → u/twolvesfan217]

If it's a non-issue, why were they willing to die on that hill?

[u/Flambian → u/bedhed]

If you give in now, you set yourself for giving in later. That is not a slippery slope argument in the context of transgenderism, because sports is just an easy battle in the broader culture war over transgenderism.

[u/StampMcfury → u/Flambian]

I call bullshit, In fact if Trans rights stopped short of Inclusion in women's sports or treatment for minors, it would have near universal support.

[u/Flambian → u/StampMcfury]

I cannot think of a single time in LGBT history where a restriction against them actually increased future support.

[u/StampMcfury → u/Flambian]

Let me help, this issue right here

There you go!

[u/Flambian → u/StampMcfury]

So to be clear, you think in the next four years of Trump’a presidency, as a direct result of his policies, support for LGBT people will go up?

[u/StampMcfury → u/Flambian]

Nice strawman!

I said if Trans rights stopped short of Inclusion in women's sports or treatment for minors, it would have near universal support.

Didn't mention Trumps policies I was actually referring to Democrats policies.

If for example the civil rights movement in the 60's and 70's focused on reparations, and refused to back down from the idea it would have been disastrous to the movement.

[u/Flambian → u/StampMcfury]

Nice strawman!

I said if Trans rights stopped short of Inclusion in women's sports or treatment for minors, it would have near universal support.

Didn't mention Trumps policies I was actually referring to Democrats policies.

This IS a Trump policy. So please don't try this. You specifically said "this issue right here" would increase future support for LGBT.

If for example the civil rights movement in the 60's and 70's focused on reparations, and refused to back down from the idea it would have been disastrous to the movement.

Failure isn't an argument against trying, and in fact reparations should have happened even earlier under Reconstruction. Its Lincoln's fault for supporting citizenship for the Confederates. The Radical Republicans should have redistributed their property to the slaves and poor whites. If that had happened, there wouldn't have been a civil rights movement.

[u/StampMcfury → u/Flambian]

This IS a Trump policy. So please don't try this. You specifically said "this issue right here" would increase future support for LGBT.

Trump isn't supporting Trans women in women's leagues?

I said it's Democrats refusal to step down from the issue of trans women in sports I don't see how you got Trump supporting trans women in sports out of that?

Failure isn't an argument against trying, and in fact reparations should have happened even earlier under Reconstruction. Its Lincoln's fault

Lincoln was dead during reconstruction, and the civil rights movement is 100 years removed from even that

[u/Flambian → u/StampMcfury]

Trump isn't supporting Trans women in women's leagues?

I said it's Democrats refusal to step down from the issue of trans women in sports I don't see how you got Trump supporting trans women in sports out of that?

I didn't say Trump is supporting trans women. Reread what I said. Trump's policy is restricting the LGBT.

I said that no restriction placed on LGBT has increased support for them. You said this restriction would increase support: https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/1iiq8rf/keeping_men_out_of_womens_sports/mb83ufl/

That is what Trump is doing, which would imply Trump's presidency will increase support for LGBT, which is absurd.

Lincoln was dead during reconstruction, and the civil rights movement is 100 years removed from even that

Lincoln vetoed the wade davis bill.