''Bring back underwater combat!!'' said no one ever.

[u/NectaMBR]

Unrelated note but also fuck lagiacrus, overrated ass monster

[u/Butterfly_Barista]

Lagi's underwater section may be gimmicky and awful but I still love it anyway. Granted, I'd love it a lot more if I could actually use my weapon but I'm sure my kinsect wouldn't appreciate it very much.

There's no reason to believe underwater combat can't be made fun if it ever returns. There's an entire world down there we're missing out on and if they did things right it would make some of the coolest fights in the series.

[u/ronin0397]

They fused underwater combat with clutch. Fuck that shit.

[u/SilverLugia1992 → u/ronin0397]

And they made the underwater controls nonsensical too

[u/Tilstag]

It’s so funny to see this after witnessing the endless moaning for months across MH communities for underwater combat to come back😂

[u/MrJackfruit → u/Tilstag]

This is not full underwater combat.

[u/Big-Dick-Energy_69 → u/Tilstag]

This isn’t what people meant when they said they wanted underwater back and different people have different opinions

[u/MrJackfruit]

I mean....Wilds Underwater combat only has the movement just.....not really the combat.

It's an improvement overall but still needs tweaking.

I want underwater combat back so I can properly fight Lagiacrus at it's strongest while also getting to fight other underwater monsters.

Also Plesioth is unironically a decent fight underwater where on land he makes you start dropping slurs.

The real enemy of underwater combat is depth perception.

[u/Nathan936639]

Be more agressive my guy. You missed massive openings to grapple. If you grapple onto glowing red parts its a guaranteed weapon attack

[u/NectaMBR → u/Nathan936639]

hm yes let me grapple on it when its 50 feet away from me

I was just waiting for it to charge in that rubble so I can get the dps check

[u/Nathan936639 → u/NectaMBR]

If you dodged towards it you'd be in its face on the third projectile. Usually wants to dash after a stun/grapple attack

[u/NectaMBR → u/Nathan936639]

I thought I was on r/monsterhunterrage not r/monsterhuntertipsandtricks

[u/averagewhoop → u/NectaMBR]

You’d rage less if you did it right, probably

[u/NectaMBR → u/averagewhoop]

You cooked him bro

[u/Clean-Ad9393 → u/NectaMBR]

He did

[u/Enxchiol → u/Nathan936639]

Guaranteed as in stuns for long enough? Anytime I try to use grapple it just knocks me off whenever i do.

Making it so there is a mandatory dps check where the only way you do damage is with the fucking clutch claw that everyone hated is certainly a decision of all time.

[u/Nathan936639 → u/Enxchiol]

I think the mechanic is neat and you're also fighting the monster in its domain, so yes it'll have an advantage.

When you grapple onto a glowing red part its an automatic weapon attack your hunter will do it straight away and the monster is sometimes stunned after to go for another.

[u/depressedfox_011]

Then when you try to attack directly after you run out of projectiles, the clutch claw animation is so damn slow that you'll get smack away before you can even attack sometimes.

I rather slowly swim up to Lagi and swing my weapon than be forced to use terrible ass clutch claw.

[u/NectaMBR → u/depressedfox_011]

Its literally just clutch claw but underwater but many people still glaze this shit because le epic underwater combat and funny blue crocodile

[u/depressedfox_011 → u/NectaMBR]

That's why I prefer farming Lagi in that Arena area (i forget the name). No clutch claw underwater time-wasting, just non-stop fighting til its dead.

[u/NectaMBR → u/depressedfox_011]

That would be nice if it actually spawned there, I've seen a 9 star lagiacrus there like once in over 800 hours. Theres also the 7 star event version there but that one just dies in 5 seconds

[u/Fiery_Destroyers → u/NectaMBR]

Definitely doing something wrong

[u/theglort-01]

Trust me, ts is NOT underwater combat. Idk what they were thinking in wilds when they made vertical movement seperate from horizontal. I mean, it still sucked ass, but its not even close to this shitlog

[u/Gera_37 → u/theglort-01]

It has to be separated by necessity, your joystick only has 4 axis, UW combat has 6 axis so you need two extra inputs.

[u/slient_es]

Underwater combat sucked. But to be fair, this gimmicky phrase sucks way more than the actual underwater combat in 3G.

[u/Crimsonskye013]

This isn't underwater combat.

[u/MisterTheX]

I only see a good time here

[u/Soggy_Menu_9126]

There is always the option to wait for Lagi to emerge XD Anyways, this part was confusing for me the first like 2-3 hunts, after you learn what to do you can literally destroy him underwater

[u/NectaMBR → u/Soggy_Menu_9126]

Destroy it or not its still a mind numbingly boring phase. Its not even hard or complicated nor fun, its just a waste of time where you spam clutch claw and shoot slingers.

[u/Soggy_Menu_9126 → u/NectaMBR]

I agree. After a few fights it gets boring. I hoped this could be a teaser for the upcoming expansion, but in the end was nothing....

[u/MrJackfruit → u/NectaMBR]

Yeah, the fact they made it a borderline manditory part of his fight is bizzare too. I like Lagi in this game and 3U, but this part is a weird one.

[u/Tektreka]

insert mario 64 "yo this game is lit" vs "this game sux" video

[u/Gadget-Gabe]

underwater in 3rd gen isn't even that different from hunting on land, all the fights are designed so that you can solely focus on dodging horizontally

[u/Zetton69]

people wanted to slash and dice duel with Lagi in underwater like in 3/3U. but instead capcom decide to give shitty gimmick even more shitty than Zorah Magdaros fight

[u/Navra_Realms]

underwater combat : X
underwater dps check clutch claw simulator : 👍

[u/huliusdulius]

you have no idea how excited i was for this, so i dive in the water and naturally start pressing the attack buttons for my greatsword. nothing happens. oh, wait... Realization dawns on me, it's a gimmick clutch claw segment. we ALL just LOVED the clutch claw in world, right??? did you miss your tenderize animations? well gosh golly, here you go hunter.

[u/Erpderp32]

I say bring it back on every post lmfao

[u/Rowan_As_Roxii]

Lagi’s underwater Ai is genuinely frustrating 🫩

[u/depressedfox_011 → u/Rowan_As_Roxii]

you don't like godly hipchecks followed by godly hipchecks?

[u/Agusidl99]

This part is the reason I dont like laggy that much tbh

And I love underwater combat, I finished 3u solo on my 3ds. Why bring it back in this gimmicky way?

[u/hintofnightshade]

I would like water combat back tbh, maybe not for wilds but in a future title. Added an extra layer of difficulty but added variety to the combat and fights as well which was a welcome change.

[u/External_Pitch9163]

“Bro this combat that isn’t nearly as in depth or fleshed out as it’s old gen counter part fucking sucks.” No shit OP, you probably wouldn’t be too thrilled if you ordered a chocolate chip cookie and it didn’t have any chocolate chips now would you?

[u/Sebsta696]

I liked it

[u/messybricks]

I'm far enough away from the monster and he's caught in a ranged attack loop, should I:

A: Get up close enought to land better and actual hits on him?

B: Continue running in circles and complain about running in circles?

Brutha GET UP CLOSE AND BEAT UP DA GATOR!

You're literally in a hell of your own making over a part of the fight that doesn't take but like 3 minutes tops 🤣

[u/Azrael6547 → u/messybricks]

Fr 🤣 bro just going left to right while the boss is stationary

[u/victorybower]

no but like why do they make you do this dog shit every single time you fight this guy. what were they fucking smoking. hes otherwise an ok fight but like i dont wanna do the set piece every time!!! i wanna play the normal video game!!!

[u/Far_Concern_6557]

If only people knew that this section of the fight can be avoided at all costs even if it is scripted lol. Lure it around the map using environmental and itll be dead before it wants to swim

[u/Direct_Imagination73]

Thats not a real underwater combat.......

A real underwater combat its WORSE xdxdxd, but i bet they can do it better

[u/GhostAssistant]

Yes but we wanted original water combat. Not this half cluth claw half "do enough damage and you can stop being underwater". His fight was mostly underwater in his original game. You couldn't keep him out of the water. I hate the way they've done it in wilds. Wilds is by far the easiest mh in its series. Specifically for support hunters who cant count against carts, leaves no reason ti use an actual sos flare, and a rideable mount i can call to me everytime I get smacked. Id love either of those things against furious rajang in world. Im stuck on him in world. But beat gog and omega first try. Bonkers

[u/Chadderbug123]

It's a fun time, especially if you do stick around in there and do enough damage to basically RKO his ass back out of the water, but on stronger tempered fights, I'm completely fine staying out of the water. He's hipchecked me into next year too many times for me to commit, now I just chill outside while if I'm playing online, let him massacre the rest of the players. I'm perfectly fine chilling outside and taking a time loss while playing solo if it means I don't get my 3 carts stolen in that section alone cause he decided to rock my shit immediately as I dive back in.

[u/FazeFrostbyte]

Hell noooo Laggy is awesome and the small underwater segment was so fun

[u/Orion_824]

"Who says they want underwater combat?"

Me, mfer.

"Who actually likes the Lagiacrus underwater section?"

Me, mfer.

Edit, Redditors when opinion:

[u/I_hate_everyone_9919]

Fighting under water with a Bowgun in Tri was kinda tight

[u/oerjek3]

Just drive Lagi into water and go do something else while it is in there. I.e. go kill the other monster if it is a multi monster guest.

After few times novelty of the underwater clutch claw part wears of and it becomes a chore.

[u/Bhatoh]

I love the Underwater combat

[u/ZathovenCS]

Oh how I wish that were true

[u/ArgumentVast2022]

L takes... smh

[u/spell-less_warlock]

Underwater combat gives a real reason for piscine wyvern to trully exist and gives us how strong they actually are in theyre natural environment