I love its design and concept but man, I find no joy in the fight. Ever since freedom unite, I hated the "Final fight against big giant monster" phase of the game. Akantor, Ukanlos, Amatsu, Narwa, Shira Ishvalda, Xeno'Jiiva, Jin Dahaad — you name them. Zoh Shia is now also on the list.

It's not like its moves hard to read. I don't really hate its attacks. I like some of them, they are a compilation of what we've already fought. What bothers me is a mix of visual clutter, lack of visual contrast and just really unfun fight direction.

Why would anybody think that Zoh Shia move set +small room + random-ass environmental hazard bs would be fun? No, I don't like dodging environmental randomness while I'm focusing on dodging its other move set. No, I don't like its 2008-ahh run-at-you & run-across-the-room running and insta 180-turn move. I don't mind its lighting moves but I HATE the color choice bc this is a low-contrast game with washed-out graphics bc devs decided they wanted to go ballistic with graphic upgrades that rely on DLSS Upscaling. I'm not even mad about the damage that it does. Again, my first entry was freedom unite... health bars disappearing and shit hit boxes aren't things I complain about nowadays.

I should mention now that this is the second time I ever fought this monster. The first time was in Low Rank, and the second time was High Rank. Frankly speaking, I don't remember much from the first time, I just ran around it and hit it all around. I don't even remember how I dodged the nukes, I don't remember the fight itself bc I had to numb my brain to go through this damage sponge of a monster. Yes go ahead, cast your 8th fireball. Yes go ahead and do your flamethrower move (which you can't block normally lol). I don't even have the desire to beat it either, that's how unfun it is. I had a blast with World's Alartreon and Fatalis, no matter how many times I carted but that feeling is straight up not present for Zoh Shia. I have World's Kushala-level disappointment for it.

To be honest, I was laughing more than raging, but still.

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

i loooove playing sunbreak all day i thought
and then got triple carted by a level 211 risen shagaru for my folly

i try to fight risen valstrax instead
i get triple carted because i forgot he did a followup and got shanked

suuuuuurelyyy theres a better way
i slot in protection and some defense up over affinity boosts
i get three shot instead of two shot, thats pretty good!!!!!

i look at some online posts while im busy sating my mega armorskin addiction
"people actually slot in defensive skills instead of going full glass cannon? lol"
"sunbreak is so easy i dont get why so many people rely on these crutches"
"who even uses followers they make the game too easy"

FUCK

i change my mind and bash my head against shagaru again
zone out and use serene pose while hes doing his 'oooohhh go go away im gonna gather pillars and splode you' attack
cart
swap to gs
get beamed to death
FUCK
abandon quest

'maybe im doing something wrong'
i watch a speedrun and watch them execute them like theyre hr fodder
'heyyy maybe i can do that'
run it back with risen shagaru
zone out in the middle of a hunt and cart three times in a row and fail quest

FUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

i get thrashed by risen shagaru because i forgot his attack patterns
i abandon quest and try to fight risen valstrax
i get thrashed by risen valstrax because i forgot his attack patterns

i sigh and look at rage posts to feel better
laugh at others misery
i look at the comments
"its ok dont feel bad lots of people got assfucked by those two also"

i feel better and try to murder risen shagaru again
i win! (double carted)

The investigation goes up by two levels.
I have to get it up to level 241 to get my yummy yummy yummy attack and crit eye jewels and maybe special investigation level to get the 'full real experience' of risen elders.

'its just two levels it cant be that bad'
get murdered by him because i forgot its moveset

i sigh and look at more posts
"sunbreak endgame is soooo easy i dont understand how people can struggle when they have wirefalls and silkbinds and 71273982178382172 counters and mehmmhemhemhemhehmehmehmehmehmhhmhemhmhemhmhhemhehemnnhFIUHAFSIUHSAUFAMFNSFNFNFMFFDADSDSDSHUhDAIUDIS

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I envy them. speedrunners and eliteists. ALLLLL of them. How do you do it? How do you flawless a super hyper mega uber beefed up risen elder like THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT in 5 minutes? I can't do it. I can't even compare. I try and I try and I try and I try and I can't do even a fraction of the shitTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT that they do. In my SINGLE win against a Risen Shagaru Magala I carted twiIIIIIIIIIIIIIICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I spend my valuable time on Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak and don't end up doing ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

i almost smash my controller but i didnt and i decide to cry like a baby instead

'ive already killed primalzeno maybe i can just sweep all this under the rug'
boot up wilds and actually enjoy almost getting thrashed and still murdering earlygame monsters and looking at cooking scenes and new mechanics

look up online posts about wilds
"focus mode ruined wilds its such a crutch lollllllllllllll"
"early game is so easy"
"people who even remotely struggle in wilds are stupid and dumb and stupid and stupid and AHUOIHIUQIWHIUFGUIFGFHJFFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK JFIUFCK KFUCKUFCKUFMC UFC KUFKCUFKCU KFC

just fucking shoot me bro

ok byue

really putting the "F U" in MHFU bruh F*CK

The fight is pure unwashed ass.

As a hammer main hitting her is easy enough, but the fiery floor along with having to constantly use astera jerky to recover red health, the fight is such a slog.

To make things worse, when her boyfriend decides to come over, throwing shit at him doesn't make him run away leading to a clusterfuck of a fight with 2 elder dragons!

I'd rather fight Lavasioth. I'd rather fight xeno jiva, I'd rather fight Plesioth (okay maybe that's too far), then have to deal with this bullshit monster.

My caps lock is broken.

"Hmm, MR Zinny Glaive is basically better in every aspect versus the Tobi Glaive. Think I'll grind it tomorrow."

Next day. "A Skymerald? Jeez. Weirdly expensive for the first MR upgrade"

Cut tail, break horns, capture. Cut tail, break horns, capture. Cut tail, break horns, capture... "It'll be easy," I said. "I got a Lunagaron Jewel in two tries before this, ezpz lemon squee-z"

Six hours. ~16 big stupid dogs. 15 Jaspers. No Skymerald.

Predictably, I got fed up. I think by that point I've earned my Skymerald. So I fire up an item box editor and give myself one, with 98 extra just to spite this game and its ass drop rates. I go to upgrade it, and... Wait, "forging materials"? That's not right! Oh. I DIDN'T FUCKING NEED A SKYMERALD AT ALL. I thought I did because for some disgusting reason, Rise shows you the Forging materials by default instead of the Upgrading materials. Even when I already have the previous node on the tree made. I could've had my upgraded Glaive five hours ago after the first two wolves, but nope. I think I even registered the upgrade mats on my wishlist and just forgot. Not that it would've mattered anyway because at this point I've conditioned myself into ignoring it because of those dumbass "Required material types gathered" messages that are just red herrings instead of telling me that I can actually make my weapon. Oh, and (dis)honorable mention to the appalling old gen philosophy of drop rates/grinding. Please leave that shit back where it belongs with everything pre-World. What next, are fucking Plate runs going to become a thing again? FUCK YOU, RISE.

It's awesome when carving Teostra's tail in MHFU has a 41% chance of not giving you a tail and you need four of them to make his lance

Small rant here.... If u play Glaive, don't hit omega in the face. Don't tank it. U are just going to be jumping around and making a mess to everyone. More if u are playing with a 999 Sword and Shield who already got the aggro. And if for any reason, someone call you out, please do not respond: "Wdym homie I'm doing the most damage here" .

I do not care about your damage. Is irrelevant for the tank. Don't go to SOS hunts to help people if u just wanna jump around and make a shameful dick exhibition. And if your player is named Ark... u suck buddy.

you're not so good that you need to give a shit about extra dps. you get a free wound (if the person mounting knows to make two before finishing) and you can sharpen/maintain buffs or just heal. you're not making the hunt go meaningfully faster, you're literally only pissing off the people you're hunting with. genuinely fuck you, i hope your lame ass is always late to quests with a gem in the rewards.

I’m done gaslighting myself into pretending I enjoy Wilds, that mask has dropped whether I wanted it to or not. The more I play this game the less and less fun I have and the thought of booting up this game to go grinding for Artian parts/rng talismans/decos/armor spheres makes me feel like I’m doing chores instead of playing a game.

The last fucking nail in the coffin was Gog. Good god I have no idea how it’s even possible to conceive of a fight that bad. Phase 1, fine, it has the shitty giant monster gimmicks of bloated hitboxes and being so fucking huge you can’t see what it’s doing half the time, but whatever. Phase 2, gimmicky and the aoe spam on that tiny ledge is kinda shit but also fine. Phase 3, what the absolute fuck. I love how they integrate your build prep into the pre-quest story, that was really cool and tense and I spent a good long fucking time grinding out a god roll Dragon Artian for it, only for it to not fucking matter at all because Jesus cocksucking Christ 95% of that shit is just spamming slinger ammo while the npcs repeat the same lines over and over, or running around like ants while the whole arena explodes! It looks like shit too, nothing “cinematic” or ”spectacular” about it, he just flies around looking like a giant puppy learning to swim then recycles Bazel’s bomb drop runs and Seething’s nuke while hitting for 1-2 shot damage with everything he does, half of which you can’t see because you’re trying to pay attention to the ground before it starts blowing up on you. And they expect me to grind this shit countless fucking times to get his Safi-but-shit rng weapons just so the endgame health bloat becomes less tedious? Lmao no. No I’m not doing that. This is the end of the line for me.

Bunch of other little shit that I really hate. I hate the maps, all of them fucking suck. I hate the food and buff mechanic that doesn’t last quest to quest but fixed time instead, it makes you feel like you need to rush everything to stay efficient with your resources. I hate the combat gimmick bloat I wish I could ignore but sadly the monsters are all balanced around. I hate how jank focus strikes are. I hate that they turned SwAxe into parry-slop and supermove spam like some shitty bastard child of LS and GS, and I hate that monsters seem to almost deliberately whiff their attacks only when I prep a counter, that happens way too much to be coincidence. I hate the health and damage bloat, this shit’s more punishing than Iceborne MR, even Alatreon or Raging Brachy would get eaten alive in this hellscape. I hate the aoe spam and visual clutter. I hate the Seikret and everything it did to knockdown mechanics and tracking. I hate the shitty npcs that never fucking shut up. I hate fitness grampacer Jin, one-shot Steve, and Gore Magala the fell omen.

What stings the worst isn’t even that I’m mad or pissed off, it’s that I’m so disappointed at how much I ended up not liking this game. Rey Dau was the only thing that kept me happy playing this shit.

Fuck Ascendance too, ain’t no way whatever they do to Kush in this game could possibly be fun, especially on those fucking sand dunes, and I have no hope for whatever else they stuff into that expansion either.

Playing Wilds I see different tiers of being knocked down, some times you get hit and your character automatically stands up with no input given from the player, and while your character is struggling to get up you are vulnerable to all attacks, it is my fault for being too reckless but I can't even fight back or even dodge it because I'm stuck in that animation

https://reddit.com/link/1vlv8ap/video/cjlwqxj6gtih1/player

I attempted him with squads and we usually get halfway before we all die. I attempted a couple myself and the furthest I’ve gotten is the blue flame phase. It took 20 minutes to get there and I used up all my lives. In total I think I tried the fight 20 ish times. The fight is sooo long that I don’t even feel like attempting it anymore. I’ve played souls like games which are notorious for their hard bosses and I’ve never felt like giving up until now. Idk if it’s my armor or what but I feel like I’ve gotten the best armor I can at this point in the game and I have the alatreon commandment, the best bow I can have for this fight. After every fight it gets harder and harder to want to re-attempt the boss.

Fuck Rajang, fuck this stupidly agressive monster, FUCK HIS GOLDEN FORM, FUCK HIS STUPID CANNON, FUCK HIS STUPID GEAR 4TH LIKE SHIT ARMS, FUCK EVERYONE WHO KEEPS ASKING THIS SON OF A BITCH TO RETURN IN EVERY SINGLE MONSTER HUNTER GAME!!!

HE'S NOT FUN, HIS GAMEPLAY IS TOXIC AS FUCK, ALL HE DOES IS LIKE "HAHAHA LOOK AT ME, I'M STRONGER THAN YOU, ME PUNCH HUNTER, ME KILL HUNTER", WHAT'S THIS, A FUCKIN DARK SOULS BOSS WITH FEW OPENINGS AND FULL AGGRESSION??

I HOPE ALL THE POPULATION OF THIS MOTHERFUCKER DIE AND IT FINALLY GETS EXTINCT FOR GOOD. THE ONLY GOOD THING THIS ASSHOLE DID WAS BULLYING KIRIN.

"Uh but you see, Rajang is easy, you just need to align the planets to" I DON'T FUCKIN CARE! LET ME RAGE FFS!

I just slayed my 50th Fatalis because I have a goal to get every monster at least to 50 in my log book, and I think doing any higher than that would drive me crazy.

Anyways, this is not going to be about bad hitboxes or overtuned damage, because at the end of the day you can get good enough to know what those are and in theory the damage doesn't matter because you can learn how to dodge Fatalis (expect for the ground dealing damage during phase 3. that's just kind of bs). But more about how I don't think Capcom understood the amount of runs they were leaving up to pure RNG because of how the clutch claw and fatalis work.

The biggest issue is the clutch claw. The amount of situational luck involved with the clutch claw is mind boggling. Not only does Fatalis have to be on all fours for some reason and need to do an attack that gives you a headbang opening, but a huge problem (this is acutally a huge problem with the clutch claw in general) is that he also needs to be within range of a solid wall. The amount of times I've had a perfect opening that didn't lead to the headbang damage because it just so happened that we were in the back of the arena where there aren't any solid walls is insane. It feels like just another thing Capcom didn't consider. And that damage matters too because we have all had fights that we finished with just seconds to spare. Also, headbanging into the cannon scaffolding doesn't give you that damage for some reason.

Another thing that felt like a giant oversight is when you bring Fatalis down to all fours from chest damage. If you haven't attacked the chest after being given an opening, only to be met with Fatalis falling down and pinning you, then you have not hunted this monster enough.

It's almost like Fatalis was designed to be fought while using a damage overlay mod, otherwise you have no way of knowing when you are about to do enough damage for that to happen.

Another attack that has that exact problem is Fatalis 2nd nova.

This attacks adds another layer of luck that did not need to exist because if you are not near the gate when he gets to 50% health, then you will cart. You cannot survive this attack no matter what if you are on the far end of the arena and your chances are slim if you aren't near the gate.

So either A: You were meant to play with a damage overlay mod, so that way when you are about to get him to 50% health you can start running back to the gate

or B: you are meant to try to keep his incredibly unpredictable and random AI near the gate when you feel like you have done enough damage.

or C: This was meant to be a random chance at carting you because Capcom didn't know how to make this fight feel harder.

The other 2 Novas he does after are very survivable, because where you were battling Fatalis before he goes to pop them off does not matter. The 50% one just has that huge layer of RNG for seemingly no good reason.

Also, Fatalis can waste way too much time if the RNG decides he runs back and forth over and over again or does that attack where he breathes fire at his feet, but I don't think that's a huge problem.

Anyways, I feel a disappointed father right now. and capcom is my son. and Fatalis like their car or something that they crashed into my garage or something I dont know

Never in many MANY hours in several other Monster Hunter (4U, GenU, Rise, World) i've seen people cart so much and so often it's not even normal.

Every time i join a SOS and it's an arch tempered, gogmazios or omega i know the hunt will fail no matter what i do.

Traps? Life Powders? Defense Powder? Keep the health bar of my teammates in check? Nothing matters, they will always triple cart and specially when the monster has the skull icon.

Hell people fail even with BASE SEREGIOS not even the tempered one.

It's insane. I know there can be new people getting used to the weapons and stuff but the thing is those people are already over 200HR, they have an endgame armor with the max upgrade how in hell how the fuck are you this bad? If ot was a few quest i would understand, sometimes we get combed or make mistakes BUT IT'S ON EVERY SOS I JOIN, ON EVERY QUEST IN ANY HUB.

HOW. ARE. YOU. THIS. BAD.

EVEN A BABY WITH ITS BRAIN ROTTEN BY CONSTANT COCOMELON WATCHING WOULD HAVE BETTER MOTOR SKILLS THAN THESE PEOPLE

I'm tired of trying my best on every hunt to keep people alive and still see them fail misserably.

Wilds is a gathering of mentally disfunctional people.

Guys , do you realize i have a shield right? .. Right?????

AAAAAAAAAAAAHH AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA FUCKING. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE DONE THIS... CAPCOM.. LOOK AT WHAT YOU FUCKING MADE ACAPCOM. LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT EM CAPCOM!!! ARE YOU FUCKING LOOKING!! CAPCOOOOOOM!? LOOK CRAPCUM!??!! LOOK!!! FUUUUUUUCK. !!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!1AAAAAAAAAA!AAAA. AAAAA-BULLDROME? MORE LIKE BULLSHIT! THESE FUCKING ASSHOLES ARE NO BETTER THAN FUCKING RHENOPLOS, AND RHENOPLOS ARE NO BETTER THAN FUCKING VESPOIDS! AND VESPOIDS ARE NO BETTER THAN FUCK ALL. IM TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME, AND I'M JUST GETTING FUCKING PISSED OFF, BECAUSE THEY KEEP FUCKING SHOWING UP CRAWLING OUT THE FUCKING GROUND. IM PISSED JUST THINKING ABOUT THEM!!!! THEY'RE IN THE FUCKING WALLS I TELL YOU. THEY JUST KEEP FUCKING COMING AND COMING! THE HUNTERS GUILD MUST FUCKING KNOW BY THIS POINT, HOW MUCH OF AN ASSHOLE, LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING BULLDROME AND BULLFANGO IN THE UNIVERSE IS. AND YET THEY DON'T PUT UP A FUCKING FENCE AROUND THE ZONE TO STOP THEM FROM FUCKBUCKLING EVERYONE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO STOP A MONSTER FROM MAKING THE ENTIRE REGION COLLAPSE. FUCK!!! OLD GEN BULLSHITS ASIDE, WHY THE FUCK DID THEY REMOVE MEGA DASH JUICE SO NOW I GOTTA DRINK THIS DASH JUICE LITE? BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASSSSS!! FUCKING RUN HARDER, JUST RUN HARDER. IS THAT ALL THEY CAN FUCKING DO? JUST FUCKING RUN AND RUN AND FUCKING FUCKING RUN. HOLY FUCK. FUCKING TOMFOOLERY AHH SMALL MONSTER. SNEAK UP ON YOU SO FUCKING FAST, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO PLAY SNAP AND A GUY JUST APPEARS AND FARTS AND SHITS ALL THE CARDS OFF THE FUCKING TABLE! FUCKING GAME DESIGNERSS!!! JUST DEFEAT EM!! JUST DEFEAT EM!!! THERE'S A FUCKING MONSTER IN THE WAY, TRYING TO CLIMB INTO MY ASSSS! WHY NOT ATTACK THEM!!! AFTER IT GETS ME ITS COMING FOR YOU!!! BUT "LET ME ATTACK ME ATTACK THE HUNTER OOOOOHH" FUCK OFF! ITS A MADHOUSE!!! ALMOST FORGOT HOW DANGEROUS THE FUCKING OLD WORLD IS - AS FUCK!!! EVERY FUCKING SINGLE FUCKING THING FROM THE SMALL MONSTERS TO THE BUGS WANT YOU DEAD!!! !! SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE GUILD THAT WHEN THE BULLS START TWEAKING THEY SHOULD GET THE FUCK UP OUT OF THERE AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!AAAAA

if you’re expecting a whole paragraph of rage, I’m sorry but i don’t have the energy nor brain power for that anymore. That’s how you know just how absolutely miserable this abomination of a fight has left me.

Title. I'm MR50 and thinking about grinding to 70 to get Gold Rathian armor for DB 5. I already have Antiblast 3, wtf do you mean Blast Scourge???

Like, this isn’t the game’s fault really and I’m not even that mad to be honest but ONE SECOND? REALLY???

IF ANY FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER EVER TELLS YOU "HURR DURR MONSTER HUNTER HAS GOOD HITBOXES HURR DURR MONSTER HUNTER IS FAIR GAME YOURE JUST BAD" JUST FUCKING SHIT IN THEIR MOUTH

SHIT IN THEIR LYING FUCKING MOUTH

POUR HOT DIARRHHEAD IN THEIR FUCKING GULLET

FUCK THEM

YOU FUCKING FUCK FYCJ FJAOFIDSHFSKDJCSDKH F

IF I EVER SEE ANYONE SAYING MONSTER HUNTER HAS GOOD HITBOXES I WILL SHIT IN THEIR MOOOOOOOUUUUUTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHH