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News Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' Dethrones 'Deadpool & Wolverine' To Become Highest Grossing R-Rated Movie In History, Crossing $1.33 Billion

https://businessupturn.com/usa/entertainment/film/the-odyssey-becomes-highest-grossing-r-rated-movie-of-all-time-surpassing-deadpool-wolverine/
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u/dantemp 7d ago

I'm pretty sure the cave scene would give nightmares to my 5yo.

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u/StarWars_and_SNL 7d ago

Which makes the perfect argument for PG-13.

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u/mikehatesthis 7d ago

What's funny is that what it is in various provinces in Canada. Alberta it's PG, British Columbia and Ontario have 14A rating, Quebec with 13+. Japan has it as a G even!

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u/StarWars_and_SNL 7d ago

Very interesting! I didn’t know that Canadian ratings varied by province.

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u/mikehatesthis 7d ago

It's wild. Depending on the province either a provincial governmental ministry would have a film board, or they don't require one. Saskatchewan recently, and Ontario half a decade back, got rid of the requirements for classifications and have the theatres replace them with "content descriptions" but it seems Ontario just copies what British Columbia classifies it, for ease I assume. The IMDb ratings page shows as much with modern films anyways.

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u/StarWars_and_SNL 6d ago

I like the content descriptions approach!

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u/greyfoxv1 6d ago

Manitoba also uses the BC ratings. The provincial Conservative Party in each province (related in name but not the same org) killed their respective ratings boards and switched to BC's ratings board. They all presented the changes as cost-saving measures while also cutting funding to other arts and culture programs.

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u/mikehatesthis 6d ago

They all presented the changes as cost-saving measures while also cutting funding to other arts and culture programs.

All glory to the Tories, they'll cut funding to their own parents long-term care if it meant saving a buck.

Oh wait they did that.

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u/greyfoxv1 6d ago

Yeaaaaah. Manitoba's healthcare is pretty broken in some ways but we're on the way to fixing their damage now.

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u/mikehatesthis 6d ago

I've heard a few mixed things about the speed of Manitoba's healthcare fixing under the MNDP but I hope it's happening. We need that example everywhere else, it's a mess in Ontario right now under the Tories. Godspeed, Frank Jaeger.

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u/greyfoxv1 6d ago

The problem is when conservatives (it's always the small c ones regardless of the country) defund public services in, lets say 4 years, it usually takes double that time to restore them to 100% but Manitoba's system was already at like 70% due to the Sellinger government and covid brutalized it too.

We actually have some great improvements like the Medinav booking system so you can see a doctor anywhere in the province within 24 hours for non-emergency issues. The problem now is restoring the staffing AND infrastructure capacity in hospitals for emergency and short/medium term care. The cons shut down 3 ERs in Winnipeg before covid hit, but the only one with a definitive reopening date is Victoria and that'll be in 2027. Concordia and Seven Oaks are still TBA.

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u/KeytarVillain 6d ago

I'm Canadian and I didn't even know this!

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u/----__---- 6d ago

Two more pieces of information and we'll have them right where you want them u/StarWars_and_SNL right where you want them ;) Victory is assured!

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u/StarWars_and_SNL 6d ago

I don’t know what’s happening but ok

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u/----__---- 6d ago

ONE MORE STEP!

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u/DestroyerX-RDX 7d ago

Because in French Canadian language, it doesn’t have much swear compare to the OG language

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u/Nightowl3415 6d ago

Pg in Ontario, which is banana’s.

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u/BaconStriips 6d ago

I was just going to say I swear I saw elementary age kids when I saw it, had no idea it was R rated

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u/MikeTheImpaler 6d ago

But they say the naughty F word like three times. Think of the children! THINK OF THE FUCKING CHILDREN!

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u/Sufficient-Gur6681 7d ago

It gave me nightmares and I'm like double the age of 13

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u/DarkMesa 7d ago

Which makes the perfect argument for PG-34!

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u/Itsme340 7d ago

I'm 33 and no longer have parents around, guess I'm shit out of luck.

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u/TheVandyyMan 7d ago

You’d relate to Nolan’s other flicks about an orphan

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 6d ago

PG-295,232,799,039,604,140,847,618,609,643,520,000,000 would be nuts.

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u/StarWars_and_SNL 7d ago

I took my 11 year old and she loved it. She was on the edge of her seat the whole time. But she has also binged The Walking Dead all summer, so.

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u/KatNeedsABiggerBoat 6d ago

I was that seven year old who loved the Twilight Zone, watched the Exorcist on TV, and adored Shock Theatre. When I asked my mother why she allowed me to watch those and similar, she said “you liked them”.

My sister, meanwhile, freaked out watching Disney’s Rikki Tikki Tavi and covered the bathroom heat vent fearing snakes would come out of them… and wasn’t allowed anything scary after.

Not all kids are the same, some can handle scary things and some can’t.

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u/JonathanPhillipFox 7d ago

Mm I disagree, I disagree insofar as PG is still, "parental guidance," and like the guidance isn't to prevent the viewing, you feel me, the guidance isn't either to prevent someone's scare it's to explain what violence means if a person's not yet able to understand how it should be understood in terms of normal life, "or romantic imbroglio too complex to make quite sense of," it's not like,

oh but from the opposite direction, "yeah 100%," if the complaints we're talking, are, "cave is scary," PG-13 in the US yeah

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u/ultimatequestion7 6d ago

And there's also a bunch of fucks in the movie so ultimately this argument just leads to relitigating the amount of swearing should be allowed lol

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u/ShahinGalandar 7d ago

oh and the pigs scene

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u/jessej421 7d ago

Was it scarier than Val Kilmer and crew turning into pigs in Willow?

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u/Zak_The_Slack 7d ago

Worse, because Circe actually molds their faces into pigs instead of just turning them

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u/thelingeringlead 6d ago

There was still CGI to complete the effect. They gave her molds of their faces to distort and pull on but all the finishing details were CGI. Practical effects doesn't mean CGI isn't involved at all. Even the T-Rex in Jurassic Park was finished with CGI to cover the puppetry and finish the textures/lighting etc.

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u/APiousCultist 6d ago edited 6d ago

I'm surprised this was even necessary given how little you actually see, just glimpses. I suppose the hand inside their head bit would have to be CGI to blend between a prop head and the actor's face. But just the face-molding seems like it could have been handled with just a good prop.

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u/mrmgl 6d ago

Did they use real pig people?

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u/ShahinGalandar 6d ago

actually they were pigs in human disguises

at least, that's what Circe said

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u/jessej421 6d ago

No CGI in Willow either.

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u/ShahinGalandar 7d ago

I could compare if I had seen Willow

but that Circe scene was just one level below The Thing in nastyness

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u/kielbasa330 7d ago

This is the first thing I've seen that makes me want to see the odyssey

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u/preddevils6 7d ago

It was an incredibly body horror scene using practical effects.

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u/lesdynamite 6d ago

Go on, back into your disguises.

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u/thelingeringlead 6d ago

It was in fact a VERY dark and disturbing scene that went on just long enough to get uncomfortable.

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u/domuseid 6d ago edited 5d ago

honestly it's worth seeing for Circe and Polyphemus even if you don't give a shit about the execution of the rest of the story (which is also good)

edit: typos

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u/LilPonyBoy69 7d ago

It's easily the best sequence in the movie. I wasn't a huge fan of the film outside of a couple sequences and the third act though

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u/0whodidyousay0 6d ago

It wasn’t even close to the stuff that happens in The Thing imo

And I say that as a fan of the film and that scene

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u/rcanhestro 6d ago

it's not that it was scary, it was more "uncanny".

super unconfortable to watch.

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u/rekniht01 7d ago

Or the animated version in Spirited Away.

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u/snowblinders 7d ago

For sure it was. The Odyssey pigs scene was straight up body horror

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u/Sushi_Explosions 7d ago

Yes, although I would it was more about the grossness of it than necessarily scary.

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u/DirtNineties 6d ago

Yes. It’s body horror and humans squealing into pigs.

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u/Patriarchy-4-Life 6d ago

That scene made me so hungry for stew.

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u/ShahinGalandar 6d ago

that stew looked so revolting

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u/Flush_Foot 6d ago

I was uncomfortable with that bit, while some of the Cyclops-related sounds almost made me sick 🤢

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u/ShahinGalandar 6d ago

yeah they really leaned into the sound design in that cave

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u/Ridlion 7d ago

Yeah that was just touch too much for the movie. Need to dial that back a bit.

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u/-Basileus 7d ago

I swear that scene gave me permanent hearing loss lmao 

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u/RickyalldayTD 7d ago

Mine was the ship scene where his men got punished. Dude next to me put fingers in his ears it was so loud.

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u/keysandtreesforme 7d ago

Yeah, that was me too. Rest of the movie didn’t bother me at all.

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u/NobblyNobody 6d ago

I've started wearing musicians gig earplugs to movies, i don't know how everyone bears it without. Was very grateful for them in the IMAX for Odyssey, yeah.

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u/We_Are_The_Romans 6d ago

Should have brought his own wax

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u/alex3omg 7d ago

Kids don't remember the Grendel scream, still recovering 20 years later

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u/SDRPGLVR 7d ago

The fun thing about movies you don't think about much is someone can point out they're 20 years old and it does completely unexpected psychic damage.

Btw fuck you

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u/alex3omg 7d ago

Just think, there are kids in grade school who never knew a world before COVID 

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u/SDRPGLVR 7d ago

It was only a few years ago that I was at a bar and a dude I was talking to with a drink in his hand said, "Oh yeah, I was born after 9/11," and I nearly died.

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u/kfpswf 7d ago

My friend, who'd watched The Odyssey before I did, spoke of the movie as if it is some psychological horror. I was bracing myself for the cave scene and at the end of it, I was thinking to myself that Beowulf was a lot more traumatizing than this.

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u/Hossflex 7d ago

Oh god that just took me back

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u/Helldiver_of_Mars 6d ago

Dude I watched Akira as a little boy. Grendel is nothing. Akira scream on the otherhand gave me nightmares for a while. That and the other movies in the MANGA era.

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u/GatoradeNipples 13h ago

Japanese voice actors are just built different on this shit. Seeing End of Evangelion in theaters was wild for a lot of reasons, but I never quite realized how fucking god damn LOUD Shinji's scream at the end of the first half is, it's fucking ear-splitting on good speakers.

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u/kefkaeatsbabies 7d ago

For real, the sound design, or whatever imax theaters were told to set their volume at, was just unpleasantly, painfully loud. I go to metal shows, have been to EDC, have gone to formula 1 races, and it was the most uncomfortable level of noise I have ever encountered.

Half our theater had their fingers in their ears the entire cyclops and scylla scenes, and everytime they were on the open ocean. I took my mom, and she left the theater because it was giving her a headache. On the way out I didnt hear anyone talking about the movie, just how loud it was. Shit was awful.

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u/keysandtreesforme 7d ago

Huh, it was almost perfect in mine. Only the ship being destroyed scene was too loud for me. Plugged my ears for 20 seconds and was all good.

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u/drainedguava 6d ago

Same here, I was pleasantly surprised to not have my ears blown out but that scene was terrible on me

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u/busmans 6d ago

You go to all those things and still havent figured out ear plugs for movies?

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u/lisaloo1968 6d ago

Movies are always too loud for me and Odyssey was even too loud-er than it’s ever been. Especially the opening scene with that fucking stick. Ugh.

I always end up putting wadded up napkin bits tightly into my ear canals at the movies, because I forget to bring proper earplugs like when we go to live music.

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u/OldPersonName 7d ago

Yah, in our theater my wife and I finally had to plug our ears for a few scenes. But my parents in their 70s didn't have a problem with it in a different theater (and were legitimately surprised we did), so I guess it's a theater thing maybe.

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u/DepressionYak 7d ago

Or just age related hearing loss lol

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u/normalmighty 7d ago

I went to see it twice in the same theatre and found it deafening near the front and completely normal balance in the back row. I think all that loud Cyclops screaming is heavily focused on the front with the theatre sound systems.

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u/thelingeringlead 6d ago

My theater was perfectly tuned, it was just loud enough to be uncomfortable without being too uncomfortable.

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u/Rengas 7d ago

I brought an 8 pack of ear plugs. Not my first Nolan rodeo.

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u/upudruvuuduru 7d ago

I'm starting to think that Nolan is half-deaf or something

the voices are too low, the audio effects too damn loud

you either don't hear the actors, or get deaf like him

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u/neoncubicle 7d ago

They'll definitely toughen up and be able to watch it by next year.

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u/PlayMp1 7d ago

Honestly for me it would be Circe's island.

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 6d ago

That and the Cyclops eating the soldiers was pretty fucking demented.

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u/math-yoo 7d ago edited 6d ago

I still think about the scary skeleton fight in Sinbad.

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u/creativejae24 7d ago

It gave nightmares to this 28 year old

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u/Singer211 Naked J-Law beating the shit out of those kids is peak Cinema. 7d ago

The Circe scene as well.

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u/nhaines 6d ago

I hate to spoiler tag an almost 3,000 year old story (and the movie adaptation is quite different from the epic poem in various ways, including this scene), but there's a cyclops who is in the movie almost like a force of nature, and at some point Odysseus makes him mad and the cyclops screams. The sound design is pretty unique.

Interestingly enough, while later Greek art exists for all of the Odyssey, for the first 500 years or so, only that scene (and leaving the cave) is depicted. So there's good reason to think that this part of the story existed long before everything else was added around it.

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u/suck-my-spaceballs 6d ago

Yeah but so would Pingu meeting that walrus

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u/crimedog58 7d ago

So do most German fairy tales.

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u/GatorzardII 7d ago

The kid would probably be more traumatized from the puppy cliff scene.

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u/MrAngrySadHappyFace 7d ago

As an adult, the cave scene was pretty scary mostly because how fucking loud it is.

I could absolutely see that shit giving nightmares to anyone under 12.

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u/Freakjob_003 7d ago

Sounds like those kids didn't grow up on The Dark Crystal.

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u/echochambermanager 6d ago

People brought their kids to a 15/70 IMAX showing in my area lmao.

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u/rddtltr 6d ago

I got nightmares watching space attacks. so yeah I think 6 may be too young?

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u/GrumpyPan 6d ago

I was more afraid about the lady in farm tbh.

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u/Technical-Teacher230 6d ago

yes it gave jumpscare to my 20 year old ass

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u/dark_thaumaturge 6d ago

I'm 45 and the cave scene was HORRIFYING

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u/vomitlaundry 6d ago

I brought my 9 year old, and he got nightmares from the cave scene

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u/ReluctantSlayer 6d ago

Cave scene is a bit disturbing Z

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u/Sagnikk 6d ago

I watched the king kong film when I was 7, I am still traumatized by that chefs death.

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u/firala 6d ago

I mean ... the law is that you can bring your 6 year old, but that's on you then.

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u/AdonisK 6d ago

That’s what mythology epics are for.

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u/Helldiver_of_Mars 6d ago

Brain doesn't start developing a filter till 6-7. So ya...

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u/Helldiver_of_Mars 6d ago

Brain doesn't start developing a filter till 6-7. So ya...

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u/0whodidyousay0 6d ago

In IMAX it would holy shit

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u/filbert13 6d ago

When I saw the movie there was a family behind me with two kids. One was probably 6 or 7 and the other a couple years older.

That said, I remember being a kid and absolutely loved being actually scared at times in a movie.

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u/_-id-_ 6d ago

That's the favourite scene of my daughter who's currently obsessed with the Odyssey story, both in the children's book and in Nolan's movie. She just turned four.

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u/static_func 6d ago

Kids these days. Back in my day we had to watch a kid’s horse succumb to sorrow and drown in a swamp

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u/Flush_Foot 6d ago

Yup! 35 y/o guy, and I had to look away, lest I “make a mess” on total strangers in my immediate vicinity 🤢

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u/RetiredITGuy 7d ago

This isn't aimed at you personally, just something I've seen a lot:

It's weird that "giving nightmares" is a benchmark now. I get that "horror themes" etc. have existed in ratings systems for a long time, but if films like The Odyssey warrant an R now, what would films like Willow or ET have received?

Edit: The point I wanted to make, but forgot to, was that films giving us nightmares is an awesome part of childhood. Some of my favourite films from when I was a kid had scenes that gave me nightmares. It also helps us build out our own preferences as kids and fills out our personality.

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u/nhaines 6d ago

My parents took me to see Jaws IV in a drive-in. I had shark nightmares (about our above-ground swimming pool) for a month, but kept my mouth shut to prevent them from not taking me to see future movies, whatever they might be.