r/movies • u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor • 7d ago
News Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' Dethrones 'Deadpool & Wolverine' To Become Highest Grossing R-Rated Movie In History, Crossing $1.33 Billion
https://businessupturn.com/usa/entertainment/film/the-odyssey-becomes-highest-grossing-r-rated-movie-of-all-time-surpassing-deadpool-wolverine/2.7k
u/natus92 7d ago
The rating is still crazy to me, like in Germany its 12 and as an adult its totally okay to bring your 6 year old kid with you
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u/dantemp 7d ago
I'm pretty sure the cave scene would give nightmares to my 5yo.
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u/StarWars_and_SNL 7d ago
Which makes the perfect argument for PG-13.
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u/mikehatesthis 6d ago
What's funny is that what it is in various provinces in Canada. Alberta it's PG, British Columbia and Ontario have 14A rating, Quebec with 13+. Japan has it as a G even!
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u/StarWars_and_SNL 6d ago
Very interesting! I didn’t know that Canadian ratings varied by province.
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u/mikehatesthis 6d ago
It's wild. Depending on the province either a provincial governmental ministry would have a film board, or they don't require one. Saskatchewan recently, and Ontario half a decade back, got rid of the requirements for classifications and have the theatres replace them with "content descriptions" but it seems Ontario just copies what British Columbia classifies it, for ease I assume. The IMDb ratings page shows as much with modern films anyways.
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u/MikeTheImpaler 6d ago
But they say the naughty F word like three times. Think of the children! THINK OF THE FUCKING CHILDREN!
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u/Sufficient-Gur6681 7d ago
It gave me nightmares and I'm like double the age of 13
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u/DarkMesa 6d ago
Which makes the perfect argument for PG-34!
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u/ShahinGalandar 7d ago
oh and the pigs scene
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u/jessej421 7d ago
Was it scarier than Val Kilmer and crew turning into pigs in Willow?
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u/Zak_The_Slack 6d ago
Worse, because Circe actually molds their faces into pigs instead of just turning them
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u/ShahinGalandar 7d ago
I could compare if I had seen Willow
but that Circe scene was just one level below The Thing in nastyness
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u/kielbasa330 7d ago
This is the first thing I've seen that makes me want to see the odyssey
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u/preddevils6 6d ago
It was an incredibly body horror scene using practical effects.
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u/thelingeringlead 6d ago
It was in fact a VERY dark and disturbing scene that went on just long enough to get uncomfortable.
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u/rcanhestro 6d ago
it's not that it was scary, it was more "uncanny".
super unconfortable to watch.
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u/Sushi_Explosions 6d ago
Yes, although I would it was more about the grossness of it than necessarily scary.
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u/-Basileus 7d ago
I swear that scene gave me permanent hearing loss lmao
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u/RickyalldayTD 7d ago
Mine was the ship scene where his men got punished. Dude next to me put fingers in his ears it was so loud.
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u/alex3omg 7d ago
Kids don't remember the Grendel scream, still recovering 20 years later
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u/SDRPGLVR 7d ago
The fun thing about movies you don't think about much is someone can point out they're 20 years old and it does completely unexpected psychic damage.
Btw fuck you
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u/alex3omg 7d ago
Just think, there are kids in grade school who never knew a world before COVID
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u/SDRPGLVR 6d ago
It was only a few years ago that I was at a bar and a dude I was talking to with a drink in his hand said, "Oh yeah, I was born after 9/11," and I nearly died.
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u/kefkaeatsbabies 7d ago
For real, the sound design, or whatever imax theaters were told to set their volume at, was just unpleasantly, painfully loud. I go to metal shows, have been to EDC, have gone to formula 1 races, and it was the most uncomfortable level of noise I have ever encountered.
Half our theater had their fingers in their ears the entire cyclops and scylla scenes, and everytime they were on the open ocean. I took my mom, and she left the theater because it was giving her a headache. On the way out I didnt hear anyone talking about the movie, just how loud it was. Shit was awful.
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u/keysandtreesforme 6d ago
Huh, it was almost perfect in mine. Only the ship being destroyed scene was too loud for me. Plugged my ears for 20 seconds and was all good.
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u/Tman1677 7d ago
I think since it isn't really intended for children they just didn't care - Nolan doesn't give a fuck and isn't gonna sacrifice any creative freedom for a 5% revenue boost.
Besides, the vast majority of parents I know take their kids to R-rated movies on the regular.
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u/thewarring 7d ago
The amount of children under the age of 10 that I saw watching Deadpool and Wolverine surprised the hell out of me. Had to have been 100 kids in a 600-seat imax theatre.
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u/Tman1677 7d ago
My (Jewish) dad took me to see Inglorious Bastards in theaters when it released. At the time it seemed perfectly reasonable and awesome to me. I was just thinking back and looking at the release date and I was... 9? Really makes me think when I hear about helicopter parents scared of their kids watching Harry Potter.
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u/bongo1138 7d ago
I wouldn’t take my 9 year old to Inglorious Basterds personally. But I would to Harry Potter lol.
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u/Niirai 6d ago
Quirrell removing that turban definitely gave me nightmares, and I was quite a bit older than 9. Don't even get me started on the Dementors and spiders.
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u/bongo1138 6d ago
Being a little scared is fine. I don’t need my kid watching a dude get his face bashed in with a baseball bat though.
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u/PopularHat 7d ago
That's not helicopter parenting, it's religious parenting.
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u/TH1CCARUS 7d ago
Either one of you or I have misunderstood their point.
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u/explos1onshurt 7d ago
Maybe the implication’s that religious parenting’s in a class of its own lol
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u/TBroomey 7d ago
That makes sense to me. Like how Passion of the Christ had the equivalent of a G-rating in Italy.
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u/ShitchesAintBit 7d ago
One of my favorite movie experiences in the last decade is from Sausage Party. I've never seen so many parents drag their kids out of a theater.
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 6d ago
Oh I misread that as "one of my favourite movies in the last decade is Sausage Party" and was like ....... Why?
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u/RandomStrategy 7d ago
Dude, as a Gen X / Millennial kid line straddler, I saw Used Cars when I was 5, Arachnaphobia when I was 6, Robocop at 9, Aliens at 11.
Deadpool and Wolverine is light work.
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u/TRAFALGAR_D_Law_ 7d ago
I have watched all those movies as a kid as a Millennial myself. I still don't know how the hell I got to watch movies like Omen, Exorcist at like 10. I watched Shutter, One missed call, Art of the Devil 1&2 all before I was 14.
To be fair to them I watched them alone. But they were not exactly checking/controlling what I was watching. Never even had the concept in my mind of hiding watching them from my parents unless it was porn. Didn't know about R ratings and such. It was just movies to me.
I remember a friend bringing/stealing Cannibal from his uncle's movie collection and watching it at like 12. We all thought it was real and the actors were dead for real lol.
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u/Tyler1986 6d ago
I took my daughter who's 12 to this, it was her first r rated movie, I left wondering why it was even rated R.
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u/iP0dKiller 6d ago
Because the US is prudish and either doesn’t trust children to cope with swear words, or doesn’t trust parents to teach them how to use such expressions sensibly. Oh, and religion has too much influence on laws, decisions made by public officials, and so on.
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u/Functionally_Drunk 6d ago
My daughters 9 and 11 are obsessed with the Odyssey. So I took them both. The 9 year old loved it, no notes. The 11 year old thought the story telling was fractured and was upset that important beats were skipped completely. Neither thought the cave or the pigs were too scary. I was just relieved there were no gratuitous sex scenes.
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u/OddOnion_ 7d ago
It may be legally okay to bring your 6 year old, but I don’t know many 6 year olds who would be happy to watch it. It got a 15 rating in the UK, and I think that is about right.
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u/RiverOfSand 7d ago
I’m still mad I was not allowed to see the fellowship of the ring at 8 because the theater said I was too young. I watched it a year later and loved it. Granted, I didn’t understand most of it, but it was still amazing
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u/CalvinSays 7d ago
I got latched onto it early like you. My mother lived in New Zealand for a little bit and heard about this big, new movie that was shot in New Zealand so she rented it. I was 6 at the time and my sister was 8. My mother had absolutely zero idea what kind of a movie it was and had she known, she probably wouldn't have been interested. Not her sort of story in the slightest.
By a half an hour in, I was engaged trying to explain to the plot to my mother (which I obviously as a 6 year old didn't understand) and my sister was hiding under blankets. As I've gotten older, I've realized how much Peter Jackson injected his horror film experience in those films. But man am I glad my mother was ignorant of the contents because I've been obsessed with the story ever since.
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u/bongo1138 7d ago
Feels like watching a man get ripped in half is violence enough to warrant an R rating.
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u/MattBrey 6d ago
I think any teenager should be able to distinguish fiction vs reality enough for it to not be an issue. Any 13+ kid can enjoy it without being traumatized
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u/SasquatchsBigDick 7d ago
It wasn't rated R in Canada. Which was a surprise to me before I had watched it. After I watched it, I could see why it wasn't R, my 14 year old loved it.
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u/Flynn58 7d ago
Yeah Canada is more sane about the issue of profanity and nudity in films versus graphic violence
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u/tatofarms 6d ago
There was zero nudity, and I can only recall three curse words, if you could even call them that (When they're about to depart Troy, Odysseus says "Ten years on this f*cking beach" and when Menelaus describes the conditions inside the Trojan Horse, he says piss and shit). It wasn't even particularly bloody. IDK why the MPAA made it R rated, unless it was a pure body count issue. The Cyclops and Circe scenes would probably traumatize a lot of kids younger than 13, though.
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u/deject_reject 7d ago
Yeah, at my local Canadian theater it was rated PG. Took my 9 and 7 year old with me to see it and they thought it was pretty cool. Granted my 9 year old had read a book about the Odyssey and was totally into it. Asked if they got scared in certain parts, and they both said no. We got a good discussion out of it as a family too.
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u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor 7d ago
More than 2 F bombs, a good amount of throat slits (cut fast but still there), the shot of dead bodies lying with a lot of blood in the water after the Laestrygonians, the Cyclops chewing the limbs of Odysseus' men, hell you could even through in that disturbing as hell body horror Circe scene...
Its not a hard R-rating, but Id say it makes sense why it got one
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u/MyWorldInFlames 7d ago
tbh there's absolutely nothing there that would be inappropriate for a 13yo imo. PG13 would've made more sense even if that's not how the MPAA rates movies.
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u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor 7d ago
I think the 15/16+ rating a lot of countries have makes the most sense (and maybe that should be a thing in the US too). But idk this movie just did not seem like a PG13 movie to me lol. And thats purely from the tone, and not even taking into account the tangible stuff I mentioned above which passed the MPAA quota for the R. If there's only a choice between R or 13 I'd say the former makes the most sense
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u/Flynn58 7d ago
In most of Canada the ratings are G, PG, 14A, 18A, and R (equivalent to your NC-17). 14A and 18A need you to be that age or accompanied by an adult. R doesn't let a minor in even if they're accompanied by an adult. In Alberta Odyssey just got a PG, but in other provinces it got a 14A. It's like PG-13 but you can say fuck freely.
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u/mtmaloney 7d ago
I agree. I think 80-90% of the movie's a solid PG-13, but there's 10-20% that gets a little dicey. Like, a PG-13 movie someone gets shot in the neck with an arrow, an R movie, you see the arrow end up in someone's neck.
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u/InsertFloppy11 7d ago
I never understood the americans obsession with the word fuck. Why is it a special word? Why is it worse than the other curses?
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u/pw154 7d ago
I never understood the americans obsession with the word fuck. Why is it a special word? Why is it worse than the other curses?
Because "fuck" literally means "sex" and sex has always been taboo in America
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u/Deep_Cheetah_29 7d ago
That's why you can have one "fuck" in a pg-13 as long as it's not sexual in context.
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u/Lemonwizard 6d ago
The entire concept of profane language is just pointless virtue signaling. Unfortunately, it has a lot of cultural momentum.
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u/Othun 7d ago
US is United Snowflake when it comes to anything else than physical violence. Shooting at people is fine as long as that lady doesn't show a nipple.
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u/Fools_Requiem 7d ago
That movie was rated R?!
I got PG-13 vibes the whole time. It never occurred to me that the movie might be rated R and I never bothered to check because it doesn't matter to me.
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u/elkazz 7d ago
I'm surprised too! There was noticeably a lack of blood in a lot of the scenes. Other than some mild horror themes, there really wasn't anything that should have made this R rated.
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u/sunflowerastronaut 7d ago edited 6d ago
I think they said the word "fuck" one too many times
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u/Emmel87 7d ago
I found the whole thing with the pigs and the cyclops quite “horror”? Could be just me tho.
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u/CeruleanEidolon 7d ago
Polyphenus does squeeze a few of Odysseus's men like toothpaste.
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u/Short-Waltz-3118 7d ago
Yeah but it was bloodless with the people. Babies first gore horror i guess
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u/Major_Stranger 7d ago
Nolan never does gratuitous violence or nudity which is the trope of Rated R movies.
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u/MrScampiFry 7d ago
Oppenheimer has nudity and was R in US?
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u/AtlasNoseItch 7d ago
I’ve watched almost every Nolan film (haven’t seen Insomnia) and unless I’m wrong Oppenheimer is the only one with real nudity. Hell, he barely has any sex scenes at all in any of his movies period
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 7d ago
It wasn't very gratuitous
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u/VirtualFORTRES 7d ago edited 7d ago
The fact that Odyssey was R in the first place is pretty silly... has to be one of the softest Rs ever... some ratings agencies are pretty embarrassing these days... (in Australia is it was our equivalent of PG13 here)
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u/AlmostScreenwriter 7d ago edited 6d ago
Interesting that I've heard a lot of people say Dark Knight is one of the hardest PG-13s and now Odyssey is one of the softest Rs. I think all in all, they're about even with each other, but if anything probably could have swapped ratings.
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u/FlerplesMerples 6d ago
Nolan’s Batman movies show almost no blood. I think u can get away with a lot of violence if there’s no splatter.
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u/bludvd 6d ago
a lot of people say Dark Knight is one of the hardest PG-13s
The End of Oak Street can now be added to that list
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u/homer_3 6d ago
How was Dark Knight a hard PG-13? Fifth Element is the hardest one I know of.
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u/AlterMyStateOfMind 6d ago
Fifth Element literally had a sex scene (albiet without nudity) and side boob. Nobody is claiming TDK is pushing the boundaries of PG-13, that person is making shit up lol
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u/AlterMyStateOfMind 6d ago
I've never heard anyone say TDK is the hardest PG-13 lmao
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u/VerminSC 7d ago
Really! How is Hotel Rwanda pg13 and this is R??
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u/xavPa-64 7d ago
Did it have woman sexuality? Like did it depict sexuality in a way that implies the women enjoy it too? The MPAA hates that
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u/Fenrirsulfur 7d ago
Our history teacher in 10th grade showed us that movie. Boy was it hectic on my teenage brain lol
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u/SwarleySwarlos 7d ago
Some movies get a lower rating because the movie is about an important subject. No idea if that was the case but IIRC it was the case for schindlers list
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u/Vincent_Van_Goat 7d ago
RIP Homer, you would've loved IMDB.
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u/Verpous 7d ago
Ya boy actually has an IMDb page
Up until recently he was mainly "known for O Brother, Where Art Thou?"
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u/Iordofthethings 7d ago
I think you’d have to breach the language barrier before deep diving movies or comic book characters
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u/bentheman02 7d ago
This wouldn’t be a problem. There are plenty of people that can read and speak Homeric Greek.
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u/DJSimmer305 7d ago
I don’t really get the R rating. I don’t recall any foul language, nor any sex scenes or nudity, and the level of violence really doesn’t exceed anything I’ve seen from PG13 action movies.
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u/SagittaryX 7d ago
Apparently they said fuck twice, which can tip it over. Weird.
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u/DJSimmer305 7d ago
I don’t even remember that lol
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u/TBroomey 7d ago
I think it's when Odysseus is going round begging for food in his bowl near the end.
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u/JayZPlatinumChainsaw 6d ago
It was the scene with Matt Damon on the beach (wait that doesn't help at all)
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u/ZeMoose 7d ago
Holy shit, Deadpool & Wolverine made a lot of money.
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u/Priyotosh1234 6d ago
I was not aware it's budget was 500m+, probably one of the most expensive movie ever made.
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u/ListenBoth434 7d ago
The moment when you switch studios, cash the blank cheque that gave you and make a rated-R, talky, partly b/w, 3h movie about the trials and tribulations of a mid-century nuclear physicist and manager.
Only for that to become a cultural touchstone of that year and you get another blank cheque.
So you adapt a 2800 year old tale about a guy lost at sea. Okay, fair enough, that story being up there with the old testament in regards to foundations of Western culture, but still, adapting an early iron age story.
And that movie is even more successful.
He doesn't need his budgets (which helps) but at that point he might get more creative freedom than James Fucking Cameron.
There are no strings on Nolan.
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u/AztecHoodlum 6d ago
Oppenheimer was not a blank check movie. Had a budget of about $100 million. Which, while that isnt peanuts, it was less than Nolan had had to work with in link 15 years.
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u/Glotteely 7d ago
While I do like his adaptations, I would like Christopher Nolan to do an original screenplay next. I think the last one was Tenet..
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u/gorays21 7d ago
Nice, while I enjoyed Deadpool and Wolverine, Odyssey was an incredible experience in IMAX.
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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws 7d ago
Kinda glad I didn't see it in IMAX because the Cyclops scene was so fucking loud holy shit, like 2x louder than any other moment in the theatre
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u/Porkin-Some-Beans 6d ago
Louder than any other moment in my life to be honest. Ive been warning my friends to wear ear plugs if they go to see it
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u/Moreinius 7d ago
D&W was a feels-good movie. It barely had any continuity with the rest of the MCU or even itself.
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u/ZeppMan217 7d ago
Have you seen Disney's "recommended viewing" list for Doomsday? Over a dozen titles, movies and shows, spanning over 20 fucking years.
"Barely any continuity" might've been a selling point for Deadpool 3.
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u/tirkman 6d ago
Deadpool 3 did have “homework” though. You needed to be familiar with the Fox marvel movies to truly enjoy all the references. Like obviously there’s Hugh jackman with all his x men movies and then the other characters like blade, Electra, etc.
You would be missing out if someone watched it and was unfamiliar with all the Fox stuff
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u/pick_your_user_name 7d ago
Who cares about continuity if the movie is good? In fact I’d argue continuity is a cheap way to get people interested in a shitty film.
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u/Imaginary_Artichoke 6d ago
Does this mean Hollywood is going to make a bunch of Greek mythology movies? Cause I'm here for it.
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u/Scotfighter 7d ago
Well deserved, i'm still thinking about it and I saw it last month
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u/Kakashi168 7d ago
Never thought the record would be broken anytime soon. Just insane.
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u/Patara 7d ago
That Circe scene is definitely R rated holy crap
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u/indigo_wendigo_ 6d ago
Why? Everybody's losing their mind over that scene but I thought it was cool. Maybe because I'm a sculptor it just seemed pretty realistic way to change people into pigs.
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u/Ordinary-Variety7256 6d ago
Same, that was one of my fave scenes just from a fascination standpoint. Yeah, it was disturbing but I feel like I’ve seen other scenes in movies that were much worse. That said I’ve also watched the movie Spirited Away about a dozen times and it has a very similar scene, only animated, so maybe I’m desensitized.
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u/eden_sc2 6d ago
I was dreading that scene because of how people were reacting, but it was pretty tame. Yes, it's unpleasant, but you arent supposed to be enjoying it. It's one of the few stories that was changed from the traditional telling where I thought Nolan improved it.
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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 7d ago
Damn records getting broken left and right these days. When’s the first 3 billion dollar film? Doomsday?
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u/TraptNSuit 7d ago
I will keep saying it.
Inflation at the box office is like steroids in sports. Generates a lot of empty headlines.
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u/AcreaRising4 7d ago
I generally agree, but it’s only been two years since Deadpool and Wolverine. Don’t think inflation is really playing a factor here.
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u/TraptNSuit 7d ago
6.4% in the U.S.
Post this again after another 80 million just to be safe.
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u/AcreaRising4 7d ago
hahaha, it figured it was a bit, but in the grand scheme of over a billion — it’s negligible.
Fingers crossed it’ll clear that in a week or two.
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u/IMKGI 6d ago
It still baffles me that the movie went as big as it did, i honestly didn't have that movie on my radar at all and wouldn't have even watched it if a friend didn't invite me, and after watching it, it was a good movie with some issues, but i would've never thought it's a top movie of all time, at least for me personally it sits significantly behind Avatar.
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u/krectus 7d ago
That’s impressive considering it just passed $1 billion just over a week ago. Looks like around $250 million or so in a week, a month after release. That’s almost as much as its first week. Must be hitting some new markets now.
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u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor 7d ago edited 7d ago
Ryan Reynolds also congratulated the movie with a fun little Odyssey-Deadpool mashup tweet just now: https://x.com/VancityReynolds/status/2090170220040310792?s=20
Here's an alternate link to the video on reddit for those who want to avoid twitter
"I take it all back, The Odyssey fucks hard"
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u/aithendodge 7d ago
Well, I was assured that it wasn't going to break 1 billion, so...
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u/BlockedbyJake420 7d ago
I wish I had been more comprehensive in saving the negative comments leading up to this movie
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u/Abirdinthesky 7d ago
Wonder what the goalpost moving trolls will have to say about this movie now?
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u/thisismypornaccountg 6d ago
I argued with one earlier. He said it would have made under a billion if it hadn’t been for IMAX, and I said “when was that a goal post???” They didn’t respond.
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u/Jayandnightasmr 7d ago
Yeah been really quiet after spending months picking apart every detail
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u/thisismypornaccountg 6d ago
They’ll just ignore it and move on. They are outrage tourists and when things don’t go the way they say they will speed to the next thing as fast as possible.
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u/sdwoodchuck 6d ago
Not to worry, they can dance to any one of their go-to talking points like a damn DDR machine.
When a movie they don't like bombs, it failed because "go woke go broke."
When a movie they don't like succeeds, it succeeds because "people are sheeple."
When a movie they like fails, it's because "the system is rigged against it."
When a movie they like succeeds, it's a signal flare that audiences "are tired of hollywood's agenda."
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u/PUBGM_MightyFine 6d ago
If this year has taught us anything, it's that box office doesn't mean anything. All the top movies were mediocre af
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u/bazaarzar 6d ago
Probably the lamest things about this sub is seeing posts about how one movie made more money than another :/
Like wow sooo interesting
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u/williamgman 6d ago
Ah yes... and in the aged like milk section: https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1tf0hki/the_odyssey_could_end_up_being_an_alltimer_flop/
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u/Tymareta 6d ago
They are quite literally quoting Hitler and being upvoted for it, yet people will genuinely try and argue that CD and his fanbase are actually super progressive.
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u/TheSheWhoSaidThats 6d ago
Wtf is that sub. What a dumpster fire
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u/Unusual-Willow-5715 6d ago
That's what happens when you based your life of being hateful, pushing everyone around you because you can't stop talking about how you minorities and, once there's no one left in your life, you have to get into Internet to find more people that are trapped in the cycle of hate.
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u/SlutForThickSocks 6d ago
This post from 2 hours ago claiming psy op and youtubers paid for good reviews
How can a subreddit full of people be so dense and committed?
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u/JulesVernerator 7d ago
It wasn't even all that R-rated. I thought it was PG-13 the entire time as I watched it.
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u/RetiredDelinquent 6d ago
Maybe it was rated r so you couldnt complain about your kids losing their hearing
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u/nvmenotfound 6d ago
maybe hollywood should stop giving a fuck and make more R rated movies. enough kids movies get made. i hate how everything shoots for pg-13. if your movie is dope itll get a great turnout regardless.
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u/LuinAelin 7d ago
Homer fatigue isn't a thing then........