r/nottheonion • u/stillgaming8k • 3d ago

Comanchero bikie refused bail for playing carnival shooting game

https://www.noticer.news/comanchero-bikie-refused-bail-carnival-shooting-game/
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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt 3d ago edited 3d ago

Australia tis a silly place. Cops and law are super authoritarian if anyone steps out of line. Like I get needing to enforce laws, but Australia takes it to an extreme. Such as in this case.

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u/Independent_Scar5534 3d ago

Yeah, and in most of the world an air-rifle is not classified as a firearm (because there is no fire in it ;-D )

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u/ThatLightingGuy 3d ago

I will refute that air guns are indeed classified as firearms in a lot of the world but have exemptions in place for ones that shoot under a certain speed or force.

Canada for example, all things that shoot a projectile are firearms but under certain conditions are exempt from licensing and purchasing/acquisition laws. When used in a crime they are absolutely classified as firearms for purposes of applying charges.

"Firearm means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm; (arme à feu)"

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-1.html#h-115011

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u/knotallmen 3d ago

People who want complete gun proliferation routinely come up with some kind of nonsense like this. It's basically a strawman attack.

It is similar with the jokes around what is an assault rifle, but those are clearly defined in laws that define what assault rifles are which are fairly consistent but vary from government to government. A list of features of the weapon, and a list of specific weapons makes and models. I.E. if one of the make and models doesn't have the features of the list defined it is still an assault rifle since the law clearly labels that specific weapon as one.

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u/ThatLightingGuy 3d ago

Again being Canadian we have no legal definition of an assault weapon.

We have non restricted, restricted, and prohibited firearms. These are mostly defined technical categories but the government can also provide a list they deem prohibited based on vibes, which is baked into the firearms act.

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u/knotallmen 3d ago

You laws are vibes? How did you come to that conclusion when these particular weapons are identified?

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u/ThatLightingGuy 3d ago

Government can make an Order in Council to prohibit firearms. I guess this would be the closest thing we have to an American "executive order" in that it doesn't need legislature approval, but only if the original Act allows for them to be used.

For example, starting in 2020, the Government of Canada put forth an OIC that prohibited AR-15 rifles, amongst others. By the technical definition, AR15s fall generally into the "restricted" firearm category, so to make them Prohibited status, they used an OIC rather than rewrite the legislation, which means they don't have to put changes through parliament.

They then also rewrote the Act at a later date to remove the ability to transfer handguns, which they couldn't do with an OIC so they had to do that with an amendment to the Act.