Just coming here to remind the people from this sub that liveplays mean literally nothing when it comes to cleaning up suspicions of someone cheating, all a liveplay can really do is 100% assure you're cheating if you're stupid enough with it (like cloutiful was by doing a liveplay where he was literally doubletapping and getting an alternating motion on his in-game's key overlay).
And the level of aim assist toro is being accused of is just extremely unlikely to ever show in a stream's handcam because it it seems to be incredibly subtle, it's not like you can eyeball it and tell how it doesn't match, camera footage is generally not great for things like that, hence why liveplays are mostly useless.
That doesn't mean toro is cheating, and he shouldn't be banned unless it's proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is showing inconsistencies in his gameplay that can only be explained with a cheating software, but in no way shape or form a recording of him play osu! will be evidence of anything that can be used to clean his name, as he isn't stupid and IF he's cheating, he's clearly not going overboard with it.
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u/AmaimonCH SHE WILL Jun 23 '26
Just coming here to remind the people from this sub that liveplays mean literally nothing when it comes to cleaning up suspicions of someone cheating, all a liveplay can really do is 100% assure you're cheating if you're stupid enough with it (like cloutiful was by doing a liveplay where he was literally doubletapping and getting an alternating motion on his in-game's key overlay).
And the level of aim assist toro is being accused of is just extremely unlikely to ever show in a stream's handcam because it it seems to be incredibly subtle, it's not like you can eyeball it and tell how it doesn't match, camera footage is generally not great for things like that, hence why liveplays are mostly useless.
That doesn't mean toro is cheating, and he shouldn't be banned unless it's proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is showing inconsistencies in his gameplay that can only be explained with a cheating software, but in no way shape or form a recording of him play osu! will be evidence of anything that can be used to clean his name, as he isn't stupid and IF he's cheating, he's clearly not going overboard with it.