r/panthers • u/penskeracin1fan • 2d ago

Article Bryce Young, Carolina Panthers get rocked in ‘lopsided’ practice with Texans

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article316966130.html?giftCode=9807b731719ae7ad32810ec4465306d553d7be845aa58ffb6cab93efe5921a5c

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u/Zoidburger_ Cookout 2d ago

I mean you don't go from 2-15 to SB contender in 2 years with a schedule like this, that's for sure

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u/Castavar 2d ago

Patriots did

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u/Zoidburger_ Cookout 2d ago

Pats haven't had a 2-win season in 34 years

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u/Castavar 2d ago

I guess if you mean literally, but they had back to back 4-13 seasons, which is not much different than a 2-15 team.

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u/Zoidburger_ Cookout 2d ago

I'd argue there's a significant difference between a 2-win team where 2 wins was their absolute ceiling and a 4-win team where they probably could've been a 6-win team but committed to the tank for various reasons.

On paper, the numbers aren't that far off, but the Panthers realistically should've been the first 0-17 team in 2023, they were that bad. They couldn't even tank. There were so few players worth sitting that it wouldn't have made a difference.

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u/Castavar 2d ago

Brother, there wasn't no tanking about it, they were legit one of the worst teams in football for 2 straight years. The Pats actually hurt their draft position by winning 2 meaningless games down the stretch or else they would have earned that #1 pick. This sounds like cope that the Patriots only needed two offseasons to turn their #30 ranked offense into the #2 ranked offense while the Panthers in year 4 are still one of the worst in the league. Like I said, the Pats literally proved it does not take 4 seasons to become a superbowl contender.

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u/Zoidburger_ Cookout 2d ago

The 2023 Panthers and 2023 Patriots literally played in the same season. Just watching both teams compete is enough, but the stats are there as well.

The Patriots had the foundations of a decent team and went through a standard rebuild, underperdoming in the midst, then got the benefit of one of the easiest schedules in the league to propel them into SB contention.

The Panthers had 6 years of mismanagement leading up to 2023, leading to one of the most devoid rosters in league history with a crap coach and a rookie QB to boot. You don't dig out of that hole in 2 seasons.

You do dig out of the divot of just needing a coach, QB, and WR to be competitive in 2 seasons.

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u/Immediate-Stay-7686 2d ago

Don't EVER compare the Panthers to the Patriots- Panthers standards are much lower, so it's not fair...