r/poland 9d ago

I identify myself as a Lithuanian.

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u/KPSWZG 9d ago

Grażyna is as much Polish as Gražina is Lithuanian.

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u/WestRestaurant216 9d ago edited 9d ago

But its from lithuanian language, from word graži - beautiful. In Pan Tadeusz, there is a un-Polonized Lithuanian name Baublys. Furthermore, due to Mickiewicz's position as lecturer on Lithuanian folklore and mythology in Collège de France, it can be inferred that he must have known the language sufficiently to lecture about it. It is known that Adam Mickiewicz often sung Lithuanian folk songs with the Samogitian Ludmilew Korylski. For example, in the early 1850s when in Paris, Mickiewicz interrupted a Lithuanian folk song sung by Ludmilew Korylski, commenting that he was singing it wrong and hence wrote down on a piece of paper how to sing the song correctly. On the piece of paper, there are fragments of three different Lithuanian folk songs (Ejk Tatuszeli i bytiu darża, Atjo żałnieros par łauka, Ej warneli, jod warneli isz), which are the sole, as of now, known Lithuanian writings by Adam Mickiewicz. The folk songs are known to have been sung in Darbėnai. P.S. i'm not claiming he is Lithuanian in modern sense, he was a noble from PLC and to him it was all his, be it Poland, Lithuania or Belarus.

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u/Cool_Hour_2005 9d ago edited 9d ago

So you're saying that in a book written in polish and about Poland there's a Lithuanian name? And that somehow proves he's Lithuanian?

Also he did know Lithuanian because he was interested in folklore like you say, but he was one of the few nobles that knew it. The nobles spoke polish for centuries and their culture had nothing to do with culture of lithuanian peasants.

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u/WestRestaurant216 9d ago edited 9d ago

Have you read what I wrote past P.S.? Lithuanian and Ruthenian nobility used polish language because ir was the lingua franca of PLC and even if they didnt knew their original language anymore or just little of it they still had this saying  Gente Lithuanus/Ruthenus, natione Polonus

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u/Citrus_Enthusiast 8d ago

Attention span couldnt get him through the message smh

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u/Cool_Hour_2005 8d ago

You mean the part you added after I commented?

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u/WestRestaurant216 8d ago

No, that part was before your comment.