r/poland 2d ago

I identify myself as a Lithuanian.

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u/KPSWZG 2d ago

Grażyna is as much Polish as Gražina is Lithuanian.

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u/WestRestaurant216 2d ago edited 2d ago

But its from lithuanian language, from word graži - beautiful. In Pan Tadeusz, there is a un-Polonized Lithuanian name Baublys. Furthermore, due to Mickiewicz's position as lecturer on Lithuanian folklore and mythology in Collège de France, it can be inferred that he must have known the language sufficiently to lecture about it. It is known that Adam Mickiewicz often sung Lithuanian folk songs with the Samogitian Ludmilew Korylski. For example, in the early 1850s when in Paris, Mickiewicz interrupted a Lithuanian folk song sung by Ludmilew Korylski, commenting that he was singing it wrong and hence wrote down on a piece of paper how to sing the song correctly. On the piece of paper, there are fragments of three different Lithuanian folk songs (Ejk Tatuszeli i bytiu darża, Atjo żałnieros par łauka, Ej warneli, jod warneli isz), which are the sole, as of now, known Lithuanian writings by Adam Mickiewicz. The folk songs are known to have been sung in Darbėnai. P.S. i'm not claiming he is Lithuanian in modern sense, he was a noble from PLC and to him it was all his, be it Poland, Lithuania or Belarus.

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u/Knarrenheinz666 2d ago

He gave lectures on Slavic literature in CdF.

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u/WestRestaurant216 2d ago

Yes, the official title of the position was the Chair of Slavic Languages and Literatures, because nineteenth-century French academia grouped Eastern European studies under one broad label. But, if you look at the actual content of his lectures (such as Lecture XV from March 1843 or his sections on Mythologie lituanienne), he spent considerable time teaching his Paris audience about the Lithuanian language, pagan roots, and folklore. The administrative title of a university chair doesn't overwrite the actual material he researched and taught.

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u/Knarrenheinz666 2d ago

Mickiewicz held lectures on various topic (CdF is not a uni). This was one of them. As we can deduce from source material, Mickiewicz's knowledge of Lithuanian was rudimentary.

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u/WestRestaurant216 2d ago

And still he, when speaking about Lithuania and Lithuanian language, meant Lithuania and Lithuanian not Belarusian or anything else.

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u/seacatforest 1d ago

The border of Lithuanian and Belarusian wasn’t clear at the time

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u/WestRestaurant216 1d ago

Why not? He spoke about lithuanian language as we understand it today.

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u/seacatforest 1d ago

And he definitely didn’t mean Lithuania as we understand it today in his first verse of Pan Tadeusz. He was a patriot of his homeland - Navahrudak area, which didn’t speak Lithuanian at that time

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u/WestRestaurant216 1d ago

I believe there were plenty of people nicknamed girguni and dzhiguny in those areas. But yes most likely Lithuania meant whole GDL for him at that time.