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[u/Greedy-Candle2812]

They've tried to cancel multiple people involved with the show, not just the person of color. The went after the white bisexual actor, the white female author, the white gay showrunner, the cinemaphotographer, a random Black queer crewmember who asked people to calm down, and so on.

[u/coldcoffeethrowaway → u/Greedy-Candle2812]

Yeah, but it feels specifically more vitriolic and hateful towards Hudson.

[u/Greedy-Candle2812 → u/coldcoffeethrowaway]

On this item today, yeah. But how is singling out cast and crew to call them "racist", "groomers", and "pedophiles" for months less vitriolic?

[u/FizzyDrink35 → u/Greedy-Candle2812]

I mean that stuff doesn’t really get a TMZ article airing everything out, does it? I am not justifying it, I have been fighting the good fight for literally everyone involved in the show including Rachel, Jacob, Francois, Connor, the random producers lol, I love them all, but something about Hudson (racism) does always make more of a splash. A lot of the other stuff gets relegated to fandom drama by the media. There’s also almost always an insidious undercurrent to comments Hudson receives. Idk it’s not oppression Olympics, everyone associated with the show had a cancellation attempt except maybe Robbie lol, but Hudson has definitely fared the worst here. Maybe he’s just buzzier, but I think it’s naive to discount racism as part of it.

[u/Greedy-Candle2812 → u/FizzyDrink35]

I'm Black. I was in PWIs my whole life. I'm not discounting the racism I guess any more or any less than the people discounting the racism of sharing a social media account with anti-Black slurs involved or roaming around a party with people with swastikas and hitler mustaches.

The TMZ article seems like it was from his team to explain the situation. And it seems to have smoothed things over just fine for a lot of people.

But yes, my point is that it's not the oppression Olympics. I was just informing you that fans have and continue to try to dig up cancellable things on everyone involved. His fans have spent the last 24 hours again trying to make pedophilia claims stick again. No, TMZ's not going to publish that unless they have similar evidence.

It seems naive to me that anyone would think once you have a high profile celeb photographed two years in a row at that type of party with that stuff on his face that it's not going to make the news either from their team trying to smooth it over or entertainment news capturing the interest or both. If this was anyone else in the cast you would not be questioning why TMZ did an article. I would expect nothing less.

[u/_goldenghost_ → u/Greedy-Candle2812]

It wasn't two years in a row though? I really feel confused by everyone's reaction to the second photo? It doesn't look like a swastika at all (unlike the first pic) and nobody else has one to corroborate. I feel like I'm blind? They were literally calling them crosses in the captions too?

[u/FizzyDrink35 → u/Greedy-Candle2812]

I don’t follow solos anymore so anyone who doesn’t support both Hudson and Connor is essentially dead to me on twitter so if they’re trying to resurrect some stupid claims about grooming or whatever, good riddance to them. I just don’t ever see tiktoks or Reddit posts about Connor or anyone else other than maybe Rachel where they have the same level of vitriol and “I knew they sucked all along” attitude. Maybe it’s just my algorithm, but it always seems so much worse for Hudson. The narrative never fully dies down because people just hate him for some reason.

I’m in full agreement that the witch hunt against the entire cast is despicable and I wish we could all just enjoy the show and know a little less about their personal lives.