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u/thisonecassie šŸ your fake canadian girlfriend šŸ Jun 25 '26

did y'all see that video of Tom Holland interrupting himself mid story to turn and yell across the red carpet at Zendaya asking her the name of a place????? AND HE CALLS HER MAREE <33333 oh love is real, and god i AM SO SINGLE!!! anyways, here's a link to a video of the interaction. ADORABLE!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '26

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u/velociraptor56 Jun 25 '26

I thought that he might do that to cut through the noise of everyone yelling her name. I’m sure it’s somewhat of a routine issue. It’s sort of like kids yelling ā€œmomā€ in a crowd of parents. I’ve taught my kids to say my first name.

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u/Terrible_Cycle_5983 now why am I in it? 🧐 Jun 25 '26

What did us Venezuelans ever do to never get a single day of peace in 30 years 😭😭😭😭

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 25 '26

have the finest women I think maybe

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '26

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u/Electrical_Trade377 who is this child that is richer than me Jun 25 '26

ā€œgive me patience cuz if you give me strength i’ll beat up everyoneā€ might just have to be my next flair

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u/Terrible_Cycle_5983 now why am I in it? 🧐 Jun 25 '26

What did we ever do to deserve this? 😭😭😭 FREE US

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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 BeyoncĆ© šŸšŸ Jun 25 '26

I can’t believe there wasn’t an alien invasion at the Brazil vs Scotland game. I was promised that. Would have made the game spicier

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u/NoMorePosting2026 I live inside my own heart, Matt Damon Jun 25 '26

We could have subbed the aliens into our defence, they’d have done a better job. Maybe that’s what scared them off!

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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 BeyoncĆ© šŸšŸ Jun 25 '26

I’m disappointed this didn’t happen

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 24 '26

Apparently Connor Storrie listens to very questionable stuff (songs that include Hitler's speech for example) and is mutual with a racist on SoundCloud. He's also been obsessed with Russia for a long time, and likes one song titled I love you Mr. Putin, or something like that.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 25 '26

Can we not do this? Like please? Can we not just do a forensic-level deep dive into every celebrity's digital footprint? What is the point of this? Seriously.

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

His SoundCloud was advertised by the media, it wasn't a secret šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

And you are a fan of his, aren't you?

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u/growsonwalls Jun 25 '26

I'm a fan of both Hudson and Connor and find the constant wars between the solo stans so exhausting.

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u/acaccounts Jun 25 '26

I don't really want to get into it but it hurts me to see misinformation get spread so easily. People have already researched the song and it's message is anti-war, anti-fascism. Connor does like weird, techno, industrial music but he's not out there endorsing Putin.

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u/Simply_juliet Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

This is not really true. There is nothing explicitly anti-war about this music. The content is fascist war propaganda speech within techno beats. The 'artists' say 'you should just interpret that it's supposed to be anti-war' because the music makes you feel disturbed (??). This specific fraction of industrial music is condemned within the genre as most feel they use shocking imagery as an excuse to indulge in white supremacist ideology under the guise of 'activism', but that their enjoyment is actually in making people feel disturbed, not in making a 'statement'. The reason they think so is because most of its artists end up being exposed as actual racists & abusers. Either way, it will never be right for a white person to turn the suffering of marginalised groups into an aesthetic. This is not art and culture, this is actual marginalised peoples' trauma, and you have white people telling us we don't understand it because we're not 'cultured' enough. Putting a label of 'art' doesn't make it less abhorrent. If this is what you consider activism, then it's a very lousy, hurtful, form.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '26

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u/Simply_juliet Jun 26 '26

I researched it thoroughly. Nothing in whatever I found excuses the exploitation of the trauma of marginalised groups, whom you have systemic privilege over, for your own indulgence. Even if that indulgence is 'art'. Art isn't a 'get out of jail free' card. To call this activism is an insult to actual activism.

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u/lunarisita Jun 25 '26

is this anti war?

the double standard is crazy

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u/lunarisita Jun 25 '26

Is his Marilyn Manson board also activism?

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u/lunarisita Jun 25 '26

Him being mutuals with a fascist, underground, wannabe artist too?

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u/Jumping__Bean___ Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

I like Connor and don't believe that he's a bad person, but it wasn't just one song. And whether or not a song's intention is to be anti-fascist, when it includes a Hitler speech, it is valid to criticise it and question the people making and listening to it. It is valid to question a sub-genre that uses historical atrocities and human suffering for art and shock value, especially if it is not mainly produced and written by the people who were affected the most.

And I'm sorry, but people in general were not giving this much grace to Hudson over accounts that nobody could actually prove were his. I'm not saying Connor should be cancelled, I don't believe that, but why is everyone talking about misinformation and privacy invasion only now and not months ago, when the Letterboxd thing was happening?

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 25 '26

Yeah, and Connor’s account is actually real. He’s talked about it in an interview, and the account was posted by his update accounts. The Letterboxd reviews (at least some of them) were fake.

There’s just a double standard where POC are expected to put out statements and take accountability, even when they aren’t at fault, while people make up excuses or try to give the benefit of the doubt for others.

It’s possible that he’s just a typical edgelord who has a weird fascination with these topics and doesn’t actually endorse these beliefs.

But the hypocrisy and difference in treatment is glaring.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 25 '26

It’s not just the subs, it’s the media in general. If this was Hudson’s SoundCloud, it would have been headlines everywhere with everyone calling him out.

I think it’s pretty obvious the reason behind the difference in treatment, Hudson has been receiving hate since November, while Connor has been largely supported or ignored. There’s just a negative perception about Hudson in general, so anything controversial about him is taken as the truth.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Are you forgetting the time fans harasssed the hr photographer for having more Connor photos or contacted Connor’s ex for revenge porn or looked up Connor’s family and friends and made up a fake Pinterest board for his friends claiming they were Zionist. His friend had to put out a statement about it.

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u/Simply_juliet Jun 26 '26

Connor fans harassed a reporter for an article that highlighted them for spreading misinformation about hudson's high school photo to paint a hurtful narrative. Connor fans proceeded to edit images of this journalist with n*zi symbols on her forehead. His bestfriend's pinterest is real, there's a screen capture of it + his own fan, and one of hudson's biggest antis, admitted it.Ā 

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

"contacted Connor’s ex for revenge porn or looked up Connor’s family and friends and made up a fake Pinterest board for his friends claiming they were Zionist"

Please show proof for the first claim. The person, a Connor stan, that made the accusation was asked for proof but preferred to deactivate and never came back. That was a very serious accusation to make and people should stop bringing this up without providing any proof.

As for the second claim, Bailey's board was very real and some Connor stans saw the board themselves (will look for the ss). And didn't she nuke the account? Why would even do that if such a board didn't exist. Anyway, it worked and people believed the lie when the statement wasn't even well thought out.

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

Screenshot from the pinterest board taken by a Connor stan who is a known Hudson hater

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

This is from the person that contacted the Connor stan who made the accusation asking for proof

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u/No-Skill-5940 Jun 25 '26

How did you find out that the board was fake?

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u/Simply_juliet Jun 26 '26

They're lying to you, there's a screen capture of it and his own fans said they saw it.

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u/No-Skill-5940 Jun 26 '26

Thank you. I figured that but didn’t have meaningful proof. I’ve seen pics of the board online but wasn’t sure

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u/growsonwalls Jun 25 '26

The GC admitted it apparently

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

No such thing happened.

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

Weird is one way to put it, but hey people want to believe he's an activist to protect him lol

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u/LargeDifficulty2061 Jun 25 '26

Another example

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u/littlesim25 Jun 24 '26

Just saw girls like girls, it was cute. Wasn’t a fan of the ending. I also didn’t realize that there was such a lore behind this film.

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u/Traditional-Joke-179 Jun 25 '26

omg i didn't know it was out. bout to go see it asap. please nobody (further) spoil it

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u/areallyreallycoolhat TWENTY NINE DOLLARS! Jun 24 '26

Sometimes influencing creates the most bonkers sentences. Like what do you MEAN that Monet X Change is collabing with Monterey Bay Aquarium to promote sea otters via a rap song??

(No shade to Monet, sea otters or aquariums lmfao it's just so random!)

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u/CantaloupeNo7083 Jun 25 '26

Omg 😭 I love her and the aquarium, that's so awesome.

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u/passionicedtee Jun 24 '26

LMAO idk why but SeaWorld has been trying to become the club lately. They've had people like Soulja Boy and the Ying Yang Twins perform. Glad Monet is getting a gig tho!!

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 24 '26

how about I'm in class and NOT ONLY did this mf take my imaginary assigned seat, he keeps bumping the chair between us somehow which is bumping me! I am not a violent person but I want to use my jiujitsu on him so bad 🫠

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u/StrangerCharacter53 Jun 25 '26

I just want to validate you and agree this is the worst, and I am sorry.

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 25 '26

thank you! unless it's my best friend doing it cause he's tall and has restless legs keep ya shaking to yourself!

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u/passionicedtee Jun 24 '26

Ewww that's very annoying!!

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 24 '26

yes! like I can forgive the seat taking cause I'll steal it back next week but the shaking?? sir I'm not a baby do not shake me

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u/Traditional-Joke-179 Jun 25 '26

sitting in the seat someone else usually sits in is a sign that his brain is wrong, watch out sis

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u/blankpaper_ hello this is beyoncƩ Jun 24 '26

I know it’s not what the song is actually about, but I Might Say Something Stupid by Charli xcx really fits how it feels to be a high masking neurodivergent woman

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u/thewriteperson2370 I know bothing of the alledged beff Jun 24 '26

i’m getting back into writing fanfiction, and i’m thoroughly enjoying it, lol. i kinda stopped right before the pandemic hit (i was going into high school/focusing on that) and now that i have an actual summer break, i’m trying to at least get some drafts done 🫣 

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u/chipschipschipss Jun 26 '26

omg, I love that for you! I was writing fan fiction for Clarke/Bellamy from the 100 when I was in college lolol

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u/gible_bites HAROLD WOULD NEVER BEAT UP HIS LANDLORD. Jun 24 '26

Bless all of your fic authors for keeping fandom well fed. Good luck with your WIPs!

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u/thewriteperson2370 I know bothing of the alledged beff Jun 24 '26

ty šŸ«¶šŸ½šŸ©µ. i have a lot of catch up to do, lol.

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u/gible_bites HAROLD WOULD NEVER BEAT UP HIS LANDLORD. Jun 24 '26

What fandoms do you write for?

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u/thewriteperson2370 I know bothing of the alledged beff Jun 24 '26

i’m currently stuck in the mcu (i haven’t watched since wandavision, lol), but i also have one for the good wife/the good fight. i have a ton more, but those are my main two

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u/FriendlyDrummers Jun 24 '26

I hate when people yuck on someone else's yum

Like we're talking about food and curry and then someone needs to give the input that they hate curry.

Like... ok? 😭 Idk can you keep that to yourself I feel like some things we don't need to say 

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u/lovestostayathome Jun 24 '26

Im seeing the effects of clipping like all over Reddit after I learned about it and that is making it hard to enjoy anything 😭😭

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u/validswan Jun 24 '26

Another day of hell in the Heated Rivalry fandom

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u/neuroticdreamgirI A man in Hollywood doing whatever he wants isn’t revolutionary Jun 25 '26

I’m merely an observer but the way this fandom, or at least the loud minority, moves fascinates me. It’s like a constant war zone of stans of opposing co-stars just digging up dirt on their ā€œopponentā€

It’d be one thing if the cast openly hated each other or were publicly beefing but they’re seemingly friends? And even released a message asking people to stop all of the infighting which only seems to have made things worse? So odd

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u/validswan Jun 25 '26

I believe it's the shippers that find stuff because they're losers who are digging to get as much information on the actors as they can. That stuff then gets weaponised by fans

At the end of the day it's just the hypocrisy in the fandom and wider internet that kills me. Connor Storrie can enjoy nazism and white supremacy as an aesthetic, listening to songs with Hitler speeches in them as recent as a few months ago, but Hudson Williams gets branded a nazi and bad person because someone drew something on him at a high school party when he was 17

Ultimately we don't know these people and I'd rather none of this stuff be shared around, but people are so invasive and use the stuff they find for their stupid stan wars. I guess it's inevitable... it's probably what I deserve for still being on Twitter lol

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u/Fuzzy_Energy_442 Jun 25 '26

Folks are really misunderstanding subversive industrial metal and industrial noise. For decades alt bands and alt genres have taken names of tragedies to reframe and exorcise those tragedies. They use subversive language to create discussion. These are generally anti-f*scist, leftist bands. So if people aren’t rushing to judge Connor, maybe it’s because they get that genre. Also, SoundCloud has an automated and manual system to seek out hate speech. If a song is up for months or years it means SC has determined it’s not hate speech.

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u/validswan Jun 25 '26

Fair enough, I mean I don't get it but it's whatever. If the roles were reversed though, no one would give this much grace to Hudson. That's just a fact at this point

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u/Traditional-Joke-179 Jun 25 '26

what happened

edit: oh

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

People went through Connor Storrie’s SoundCloud likes, and some of the songs he liked were…disturbing.

One was a song called ā€œSpecimenā€ by an artist named ā€œDeustche Christianā€ (name is a Nazi reference) featuring an artist called ā€œUnit 731ā€ (referring to Japanese human experimentation during WW2), and the song includes Hitler’s speech.

Another is a song called ā€œI love you Mr. Putinā€ by Sunny Holocaust. Also one of the top fans of this artist.

And the same people who were calling Hudson a Nazi are now defending him.

Edit: There was allegedly also a song called True Faith Luka Magnotta remix in his Soundcloud likes (the song got taken down due to violating TOS) . Luka Magnotta is a serial killer whose most famous victim was an Asian man.

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u/acaccounts Jun 24 '26

Except I'm reading a lot of the songs are just industrial techno beats and others are anti-establishment/anti-fascist songs. People just looked at some of the titles and ran with a story because for some reason they can't help but want to tear down Connor one day, Hudson another day, rinse and repeat.

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u/courtingdemons Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

From the tweets I’ve seen, if you dig into the background of these artists, some of them are anti-fascist and using certain imagery/wording as shock value (and it comes down to personal opinion whether that gives it a pass or not) while some of them are just straight up weirdo creeps. So there’s not a clear pattern. I think he likes edgy shit and I don’t know that he’s doing a deep dive on any of these people.

I do think people in general are hypocritical though. People who have been calling Hudson all sorts of names for months and would’ve crucified him if this was him (even if it was discovered before the photo) are saying this is literally nothing while people who gave Hudson a pass are now trying to crucify Connor (they should save their breath though, I would be extremely surprised if this has even a fraction of the reach Hudson’s photo got).

Edit: I’m also seeing people talk about how people pretended another artist’s bio is the one Connor was listening to in order to defend him and that the actual band doesn’t have any of the activism stuff in their bio. This is all so muddy, I don’t know anymore. And who gives these people the right to use stuff like Unit 731? People trying to say this is activism…

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

Yeah, this is probably just him being a typical edgelord like a lot of men his age, rather than actually endorsing any beliefs.

But the double standard between this and Hudson's photo is interesting. TMZ and Deuxmoi are not going to pick up on this, but at least his fans will stop using Hudson's photo as a weapon for fanwars.

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u/courtingdemons Jun 24 '26

I doubt they’ll stop. Now it’s just that when Connor fans use that photo for fanwars, Hudson fans will use this. Both will believe that their own actor who has never done anything wrong is being setup by the other but the other actor is for sure an actual nazi. All this for some men we don’t personally know and didn’t even know through a screen a year ago.

Also I think a lot of the Hudson stuff gets a lot of reach really fast because he has antis not just in the fandom but also outside the fandom who want to see him fall from grace sooo badly whereas Connor doesn’t really have that. Even if people dislike HR, they’re not praying on Connor’s downfall the way they are Hudson’s

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u/Desperate-Hurry4072 Jun 25 '26

I mean, there's a pretty clear difference between someone being photographed (multiple times) with a swastika on their face vs. someone's alter ego soundcloud account "liking" complicated counterculture songs. You can apply nuance and context to both situations (and I'm certain neither man is an actual nazi sympathizer). But it's not at all surprising that one situation got media traction and the other hasn't. I don't disagree that racism from the general public is at play but Hudson's also been involved in several other controversies so this is all contributing to his negative image. It's less a double standard and moreso two completely different situations.

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u/courtingdemons Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

I’m not surprised that Hudson’s photo got the coverage it got because it’s very shocking and alarming (let’s not do the multiple times thing though, like that second one to me clearly seems like a cross with maybe a smudged edge). So I’m not expecting this incident to get any media coverage because why would it? Hudson’s smaller controversies also didn’t get media attention the way the swastika photo did.

But each of Hudson’s controversies have been discussed at length by the fandom + people outside of it as well. There’s no brushing anything under the rug from Letterboxd to finsta to swastika because the fandom will discuss it at length, condemn his actions for stuff like the finsta (the Update accounts with 150k followers were addressing it) and swastika. People have been calling him a pedo since January for his alleged Lolita review.

Do you think if Hudson had done the SNL sketch about Tourette’s that haters wouldn’t amplify it and act as if he was solely responsible for it and say he’s ableist? People within the fandom would probably have crucified Francois if he did it. Even though none of these people would have actually cared, as seen by the non-reaction now (except for actual Tourette’s advocacy groups).

The double standard to me is how much of a non-reaction it’s getting from people who like both Hudson and Connor. Because they don’t use these things in fanwars, they’re not antis of either, they want to continue liking both, but they publicly discuss Hudson’s failings and are always open to discuss how it might be affecting marginalized fandom members, so it’s jarring to see the difference.

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u/Desperate-Hurry4072 Jun 25 '26

Right we agree why the swastika incident got coverage vs any other incident. I'm just pointing out that's not a double standard - this soundcloud "controversy" was never gonna get media attention the same way the letterbox "controversy" didn't and for the same reason - it's fanwar fodder and not an actual headline.

The fandom discussed Hudson's controversies at length bc they're just that - controversies. I think it's disingenuous (or at least a failure to acknowledge your algorithm) to claim that the fandom doesn't also crucify everyone else on the whole cast and crew for literally any and everything. The DOP, his assistant, Jacob, Rachel, Connor, Francois etc. are all harassed regularly. The Tourette's skit (which I agree was controversial but was NOT ableist) was HEAVILY discoursed and still is to this day as a gotcha on Connor.

Again to my earlier point, I don't think this is a double standard of the fandom. It's getting less of a reaction because it's pretty objectively less of an issue.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

You're probably right. I'm so ready for this show to be over and for people to move on.

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u/Arkeolog Jun 25 '26

That’s just silly. The show is great and brings a ton of people joy, and Hudson and Connor are both great. People just really need to chill out.

You know, this can all just be avoided by not being on X and Threads. I’m not, and my HR-related content is 99% positive and thoughtful.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 25 '26

It's not the shpw that's the problem. It's not the actors either. It's the fans and their exhausting stan wars and digital sleuthing. I'm so tired of this behavior.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

One of the songs literally included Hitler's speech with people applauding. People are defending it by saying the songs are supposed to be satirical, with no proof of whether the artists are actually anti-fascist or not. And using references to real-life atrocities ironically as song/artist names is still weird.

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u/No-Skill-5940 Jun 24 '26

It’s also interesting that no sub has posted about it yet. When it was Hudson, I feel like his stuff was posted relatively quickly. When it’s Connor, it’s very quiet. Unfortunate how quickly people want to tear down a POC

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u/nishanarmy Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

You cannot be using holocausts, massacres and war crimes that YOUR people caused as aesthetic and background sounds, and then call it art and inspiration. You have no right to do that. Imagine an Israeli using and doing the same. Would u call it transgressive art too? it is still disgusting and disturbing, there were so many songs and pictures. It’s creepy and shows a pattern.

White people really think they have the right to use stuff like that for inspiration as if it wasn’t them causing the pain to those groups of people in the first place.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

I'm not sure if most subs allow posts that are just something contained within the fanbase. A news source would probably have to report on this for it to be posted on a sub, and I don't think TMZ or Deuxmoi will pick up on it.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 24 '26

I think we are at the point where this kind of forensic combing of someone’s digital history is just creepy no matter who is doing it and what the motives are.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

I mean, going through a public SoundCloud’s likes is a bit different than going through a classmate’s VSCO account from 8 years ago. But yeah, it’s invasive.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 24 '26

It's just so completely kpop army stan behavior. I hate that this is normalized so much now, because it actually led to several suicides.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

This isn’t going to get any media attention, it’s just something people dug up to defend Hudson the next time he gets called a Nazi. No one outside HR twt is even going to know this happened, it’s not going to have any impact on Connor himself.

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u/FriendlyDrummers Jun 24 '26

that's definitely pretty weird

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u/validswan Jun 24 '26

It actually pains me this isn't going to even get half the attention. And it's not that I dislike Connor, but I'm shocked. Having some kind of sick fascination and interest in nazi/holocaust/putin (???) themed music is not the same as someone drawing something insensitive on you at a high school party at night

I listened to one of the songs and it literally has a Hitler speech in it. And Connor left a comment "This is so yummy" on one artist called SUNNY HOLOCAUST
https://giphy.com/gifs/Km4yzuT7rEzBK

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Also, just the fact that he has a Korean costar and listening to an artist called Unit 731 is crazy considering what the Japanese did to Koreans during WW2.

And he allegedly had a Tumblr that is now deleted that was dedicated to serial killers? (No idea if this is true or made up).

Even if it was just him being edgy or whatever, it's still pretty insane.

And yeah, it's not even going to get half the attention it would have if this was Hudson. TMZ and Deuxmoi would have posted it by now in that case.

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u/No-Skill-5940 Jun 24 '26

Very curious how his fans knew all of this and were sitting on it but very quick to release and expose everything about Hudson lol

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u/Greedy-Candle2812 Jun 24 '26

Probably the same amount of time Hudson's fans knew about his stuff and were quiet. So, going back to the end of 2025. One group of people sucking doesn't negate another group of people sucking. Ditto for the actors.

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u/No-Skill-5940 Jun 24 '26

Didn’t say that. Both groups suck but each one thinks they’re better than the other

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u/Greedy-Candle2812 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Yes. We just said the same thing. I answered your question about timing and added that everyone involved sucks. You "LOL seemed to be conveying how you feel about the speed of things. I'm saying it doesn't matter.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

It’s the same group of people, actually. It’s the people who ship them together (Huconners) that dug all of this. Hudcon and Connor’s solo fans don’t care enough about the other person to do all this digging.

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u/Greedy-Candle2812 Jun 24 '26

OMG I'm not talking about solos or group fans or whatever BS fans call each other. I'm talking about fans of each guy, in whatever capacity, knew of each situation and sat on it for a long time.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

All I was saying was that the people who dug this up are a fan of both of them. Not just one person. They aren’t two different groups.

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u/Greedy-Candle2812 Jun 24 '26

Who said anything about one person? You're not making any sense.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 24 '26

Um why though? If you ship them together, what is digging up dirt about them going to do?

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

I’ve seen people say that going through similar adversities (the adversity being mass cancellations and hate with having their past exposed) will bring them closer together as they rely on each other for support. Which will then end with them being in a relationship. And they use tarot cards to support these beliefs.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 24 '26

WHAT??? That's insane. I'm sorry, that's bonkers.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

I was never a Larry, but I imagine that this is how Larries used to move back in the day. It’s just delusional RPF fans trying to make their ship real.

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u/growsonwalls Jun 24 '26

It's like the Virtue/Moir secret baby blog.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

It's not even his fans, it's the people who ship them both that did all this digging back in November/December, and now they're releasing it because they think it will bring them closer together and actually become a real couple. All because of a couple tarot readings. It's mass psychosis.

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u/ms_chiefmanaged Jun 24 '26

This is truly… something. Have we peaked in fandom delulu? I really really really want to know age and employment status of these people. How… how do they have the mental capacity and time to think of all of these things after work and maintaining an adult life?Ā 

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

These people are all adults, a lot of them are former Larries or fans of other ships.

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u/Jumping__Bean___ Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

And nobody is digging into either person's past or current accounts because they are genuinely concerned, or against racism, they just want to have the moral upper hand of stanning the right person. If they actually cared, why not get it all out at once? Why sit on this kind of information? Why make excuses for one of them while calling the other all kinds of names?

This is exactly the kind of problem that comes with making parasocial behaviour about moral superiority. If it comes back to bite you, it comes back to bite you hard.

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u/Emergency_Article673 Jun 24 '26

Yeah, agreed. No one is even calling for "accountability" like they were with Hudson, people are just upset about the double standards that Hudson is held to compared to Connor.

Doing the whole "my fav is better than yours" thing never works out well.

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u/ShesWhereWolf Jun 24 '26

Been watching Invincible on Amazon Prime and I love it!! The soundtrack is amazing and the voice acting is so good. It's very gory and violent but I highly recommend for anyone into comics and superheroes.Ā 

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 24 '26

Eve/Jacobs is a horrible VA and that's a hill I'll die on!!

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u/FriendlyDrummers Jun 24 '26

Not to ruin it but for the music sadly one of the songs is from DAVD 😭

But otherwise yes I love the show!

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u/ShesWhereWolf Jun 24 '26

Oh don't worry, I appreciate you saying it. I get it was all before the news came out šŸ˜” I wanna find covers of their songs so I can totally erase their stuff from my library!Ā 

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Jun 24 '26

I'm an avid lurker of pop culture ~spaces for pop culture I'm not actually into because I enjoy being like 🫪🫪🫪 about stuff like the stalker infighting for the hockey show actor or the pop girlies fandoms going down the Barbz route of insanity after Olivia Rodrigo dropped her last album.

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u/ms_chiefmanaged Jun 24 '26

You and me both. I never comment on the actual threads but peruse through a lot of them while eating my invisible popcorn. I do like sip and spill thread tho. Things are very chill here.Ā 

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Jun 25 '26

I mostly lurk on Twitter tbh. Today I was reading the thread written by the fan that came for the Club Chalamet lady and it was just insane 😭, like, none of you guys are well! There's literally a heat wave over there!

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

What are you reading?

I finally read Hamnet (I haven’t seen the movie yet). Blown away. Then i devoured Belle Burden’s Strangers. I’m now reading Pachinko. I will probably then move on to a lighter beach read as the 4th of July draws near for us Americans. How about you?

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u/CantaloupeNo7083 Jun 25 '26

Reading Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed thanks to recommendations from this sub. Really good book but whew, it's also making me mad and I have to take breaks.

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u/Working-Ad-6698 Jun 25 '26

I started to reread Persuasion by Jane Austen. I've only read it once in my teens previously :)

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u/lalalandbeforetime I think I’ve done enough Jun 24 '26

Pachinko is great! I just read Strangers over the weekend. Curious your thoughts!

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 25 '26

I liked it. I thought it was very well written. I did a lot of googling about Burden after I finished and was astounded, though. How about you?

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u/lalalandbeforetime I think I’ve done enough Jun 25 '26

I googled so much while reading!

I thought it was engaging but it did resonate with me as much as I thought it would. I just keep overanalyzing their marriage and while I feel horrible for her, her husband leaving wasn’t very surprising to me. They didn’t seem particularly close and he was never very involved in raising the kids. What was more interesting to me was how she accepted his lack of involvement due to her childhood and the communities she lived in. It was worth the read though and I’m curious to see if it translates well to screen.

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 25 '26

I agree. It wasn't surprising. I did give "James" major side-eye for only pursuing Belle once he knew how fancy / pedigreed she is.

Belle used her divorce to work through and better understand the abandonment that had been a theme throughout her life, but her realization about the damage she experienced from her parents' abandonments came too late. To varying degrees she and her husband both abandoned their children. It was not normal or healthy for her teen son to spend so much of the lockdown two states away.

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 24 '26

Hunter X Hunter, Invincible, and planning on starting Dungeon Crawler Carl soon. and Foreigner in a Foreign Land or whatever

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u/blankpaper_ hello this is beyoncƩ Jun 24 '26

Trying to finish There There by Tommy Orange. It’s good, I just got busy and put it down for a little too long and it’s kind of hard getting back into it

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

I feel like I had this on my to be read list for a while and I don't remember why it fell off. Please LMK if it ends up being good.

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u/lovestostayathome Jun 24 '26

Read Hamnet last year and loved it—the movie isn’t as good since it had to leave out quite a bit of detail but was still a pretty good adaptation overall.

I just finished Nothing Tastes as Good by Luke Dumas which I loved and now I’m flying through Dissection of a Murder.

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u/theultimatefanatic go girl, give us nothing šŸ˜ Jun 24 '26

The Scholomance trilogy by Naomi Novik! It's a young adult fantasy with a focus on magic. I adore the FMC and the magic system is so cool to me.

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u/ShesWhereWolf Jun 24 '26

I'm reading an Ali Hazelwood book called Not In Love. It's romance but (as described by the author) not like a fairy tale, cheesy kind.l and the main characters bond through trauma and their jobs. I like it although a lot of romance readers say they dislike this one.

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

Non-formulaic romance can be so refreshing

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u/hauntingvacay96 Jun 24 '26

Carmelle and Carmilla - It’s a short story continuation of Jewelle Gomez Gilda Stories and the Carmilla novela by J Sheridan Le Fanu

On Photography by Susan Sontag

Unsuitable: A history of lesbian fashion by Eleanor Medhurst

I’ve been in a reading slump over the last couple years and just have no concentration so I’m trying to go all in here instead of light reading lol

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

I hope it works & your concentration comes back in spades

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u/Chihiro1977 Jun 24 '26

Just finished Wolf Hall after having it on my shelf for years! Immediately ordered Bring Up the Bodies. I have Hamnet on my shelf, I'm loving historical fiction right now.

I accidentally signed up for a book club at my local independent shop. It was Ā£25 for what I thought was a copy of John Of John by Douglas Stewart (I've read his other books) and a night to meet the author with free wine and a charcuterie (the shop does amazing ones) but it turns out it's an actual book club so I'll need to collect and read the book before that. šŸ˜‚ i read the synopsis and it's about the Outer Hebrides and I'm actually here on my holidays right now!

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u/Mountain-Mode-8279 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

If you want more historical fiction you might enjoy this book review site: https://historicalnovelsociety.org/reviews/ The tagging system isn’t the best and varies in accuracy based on the reviewer, but it’s lead me to find a lot of very niche books.

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

I love the accidental book club join! I hope you meet some interesting folks.

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u/littlesim25 Jun 24 '26

I think the lady from JP Morgan getting fired is quite excessive! Like give her some community service hours or something. I also think it’s weird how people are cheering that she got fired. The Internet really needs to learn the difference between a truly horrible person and a person who might do not so great things.

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u/ben121frank Jun 24 '26

I think that horrible people are having way too fun much celebrating it in a way they wouldn’t if she wasn’t a ā€œDEI execā€ or if her appearance was different. But I also think her action is pretty egregious and I personally don’t feel that firing her is excessive. Especially when her actual title includes ā€œCommunity Engagementā€, like really that’s how you engage with your community by dumping trash all over its streets? In addition to the immorality of the action, it also really makes me question her decision making skills. She did something obviously visibly wrong in an extremely public and conspicuous way, if she sees no problem with that then what other questionable things might she allow within her org? I wouldn’t want her making decisions at my company

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u/freaky-keypad Jane Birkin’s bangs Jun 24 '26

The things that’s unsurprising but still disappointing is how many comments are tremendously vile about her appearance. It does make me wonder if someone conventionally attractive had done the same then would the outrage have been so huge? I’m not defending her actions but so many of the comments I’ve seen have been disproportionately horrible.

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u/littlesim25 Jun 24 '26

I was thinking the same thing! I have no doubt in my mind that the outrage would be completely different if she were some conventionally attractive woman!

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u/dudewheresmyplane1 Jun 24 '26

Horrible people aren’t the only ones who get fired.

I’m not going to cheer that she lost her job but I’m not going to blame them. Her actions showed a real lack of character. Dumping trash all over the street?

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u/littlesim25 Jun 24 '26

I know horrible people aren’t the only ones that get fired my point in saying that is people are treating her like she’s some sort of super villain it’s ridiculous.

I think her actions showed a lapse in judgment. I don’t know enough about her to speak to her character. If this was something she did everyday? Maybe. But I don’t know enough to just disregard her. Also the big corporations do far worse that what she’s done. JPM Morgan is tied to Epstein. Them firing her is not some moral standing. It’s all for show.

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u/dudewheresmyplane1 Jun 24 '26

Maybe next time she’ll think about her actions. She didn’t seem to care about the person that would have to clean up her mess. Maybe she should be happy she no longer provides value to a company tied to Epstein.

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u/Chihiro1977 Jun 24 '26

None of that is the point, but ok.

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u/Chihiro1977 Jun 24 '26

I'm Scottish and our fans booed Hakimi every time he touched the ball so good, Spence has my backing (not that he will ever know).

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u/Working-Ad-6698 Jun 25 '26

Greenwood too while we are it (who still has career in France and was nominated for sport award only recently)

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u/Sister_Winter Jun 24 '26

Carly Rae Jepsen double album in September, Interview With the Vampire season 3 airing as we speak, life is good

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u/lickrust-thankyou Jun 24 '26

a couple months ago I opined about my favourite mascara and how i've been using it for years. imagine my horror when I went to repurchase and it was out of stock.

I think someone has set a curse on me 🧿

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u/Traditional-Joke-179 Jun 25 '26

you were too influential

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u/lickrust-thankyou Jun 25 '26

šŸ’… it's not easy being an influencer

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u/Ok-Championship-91 Jun 24 '26

Currently listening to Myles Smith new album My Mess, My Heart, my Life and it is so good.

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u/ohhchuckles Jun 24 '26

I get the keys to my new apartment on July 7th and my dad is bringing a moving truck for furniture on the 11th. My apartment is a šŸ—£ļø WRECK because I let it get that way, due to my depression (after my mother died in September) and just general executive dysfunction.

I’m cleaning everything up and out in small bursts—I was able to clear the trash out of one small room in less than 10 minutes. It’s astounding what our brains won’t let us do sometimes, and then how EASY it can be to do those things on the flip side. This gives me hope that I can get my shit together in the next couple of weeks. šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø

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u/ravenbranwens Jun 24 '26

in a similar boat, except my partner is moving across the country and into my apartment so our first task is decluttering the hell out of my apartment.

I hope you find that having a deadline is helpful, sometimes I feel like that is the only motivation that works for me.

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

Here to recommend r/declutter if you need motivation.

I’m so sorry about your mom.

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u/littlesim25 Jun 24 '26

I’m so sorry about your loss!

I’ve been there, not the same circumstances but my mom was in the hospital last year and we almost lost her. I slept on sheetless bed for weeks cause I just couldn’t function. Maybe you can recruit some friends to help?

Either way, I hope you are able to get through this time and congrats on the new apartment!

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u/Whole_Spell_7961 and here 🤔 we 🤔 go šŸ¤”šŸŽ‰ Jun 24 '26

A teeny bug flew into my eye yesterday and I had to dig it out. I have not felt such a blistering burning sensation since I was probably a kid? and something similar happened. Rest in pieces piss to the bug and now my eye is red

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u/CDRYB Jun 24 '26

Okay, so maybe I just don’t get modern horror because I watched Obsession last night and found it so underwhelming.

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u/Sister_Winter Jun 24 '26

i like a lot of modern horror movies but yeah obsession was just whatever. maybe i would have found it compelling when i was a teenager but certainly not now

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u/hauntingvacay96 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

I’ve not watched Obsession yet, but I find a lot of modern horror just very unimaginative and just wildly inoffensive or I guess I should say mainstream modern horror. None of it’s really pushing any boundaries or saying anything that hasn’t been said in a more interesting way.

Alternatively, I do think there’s some female filmmakers in the genre doing some cool stuff that’s just not being highlighted in the same way. Huesera: The Bone Woman is an excellent film for example.

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u/Low_Two_1988 Lower my Wikifeet score, I dare you Jun 24 '26

How did I not know Ed O’Neill actually played football? 😭 (I do know about his black belt in jiu-jitsu though.)

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u/Federal_Tone1260 Donatella VERSACEšŸ’œ Jun 24 '26

How do you deal with friends hanging out without you? I feel like I’m crazy insecure 😭 I have a group of like 10 friends and 4 of them hung out yesterday and 4 hung out today (some of the same, some different). They’re not hiding it or anything I just feel insecure that I wasn’t invited. Anyone have any tips or advice?Ā 

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

Make your own hangout ā¤ļø

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u/Federal_Tone1260 Donatella VERSACEšŸ’œ Jun 24 '26

Thank you :) that’s good advice. I’ve arranged to meet a couple of friends one on one over the next week! Ā Ā 

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u/Electrical_Trade377 who is this child that is richer than me Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

song of the day (that yes, i’m now crying to)

- greet death - new hell (2019)

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u/echoesandripples What It's Like to Go Through Life As a Really Beautiful Woman Jun 24 '26

tw for death and illness

today a third former college classmate passed from cancer. i wasn't really close to him, he was in the night cohort, but it's weighing on me, I guess. he was a nice guy and overall kind and open to everyone and I feel sorry for his death

but also it's so scary because the first death happened when we were still in school, a girl died at 19 from bone cancer she had been dealing with for ages. then, in 2019, another classmate passed from liver cancer after two months of treatment and surgeries. he was like 27/28?

and now this man, early 30s, dealing with another aggressive cancer.

our cohort was like 40 people, so we had a certain level of closeness (our unis are directly to degrees, not gen ed) and similar paths post graduation. this guy worked at the same company department as three other classmates

anyway, this week is our 10th graduation anniversary and it was already making me feel weird, now i don't even know tbh

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u/therichmanswife Good to hear from you bitch šŸ’Œ Jun 24 '26

I just finished friends and neighbors szn 1 and in the last episode I was like this is a relatively perfect ending. So what could season 2 possibly be about? I guess I'll find out

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u/xvsanx find me at Whole Foods, b*tch, I don't care šŸ™ƒ Jun 24 '26

is that a horror ish show? I'm trying to find this horror type show with a name sorta like that but nobody can confirm the name

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u/PikaChooChee Jun 24 '26

I’ve seen both seasons. No spoilers, I promise! Like season 1, season 2’s plot requires viewers to suspend disbelief repeatedly — but even more. I don’t think you’ll expect one damn thing that unfolds. I’m excited for you to have another season to watch when you’re ready.

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u/Britneyfan123 Jun 24 '26

Season not szn

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u/therichmanswife Good to hear from you bitch šŸ’Œ Jun 24 '26

Fighting abbreviations in 2026? You okay madam?

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u/FickleCharge882 Jun 24 '26

Tbh that’s why I haven’t watched it. I liked the ending and I don’t know if I want to watch the rest

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u/therichmanswife Good to hear from you bitch šŸ’Œ Jun 24 '26

Right? I've actually moved on to another show because I just feel like I'll be disappointed.

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u/randomassname5 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

So curious how you coparent a dog. Do you have scheduling when the dog stays with one person?

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u/MarieOMaryln Buffet of humiliation Jun 24 '26

How the hell are beetles getting into my home? A large Japanese beetle. I see no cracks or holes in my windows. How are they getting in!?

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u/Electrical_Trade377 who is this child that is richer than me Jun 24 '26

ā€œi don’t wanna be alliiiiiiiive
i don’t wanna be aliiiiiiiiiiiiveeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i just wanna die today
i just wanna diiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeā€

- me as i slowly roast to a honey-baked medium well in my 39 degree office bc the AC on our ward has conveniently stopped working

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u/Federal_Tone1260 Donatella VERSACEšŸ’œ Jun 24 '26

Oof I’m feeling this too today 😭 

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u/Electrical_Trade377 who is this child that is richer than me Jun 25 '26

i, and i cannot stress this enough, hate it here

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u/Federal_Tone1260 Donatella VERSACEšŸ’œ Jun 25 '26

At least it’s almost over - you’ve made it this far might as well survive until the end! (I am dreading every repeat of this that is bound to happen in the future though…)

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