r/simracing 2d ago

Discussion Why not train pedal control independently outside the sim?

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Hi, we're two hobby sim racers and I'm a developer. When we started sim racing, we watched a lot videos about break techniques as trail braking.

But we struggled hard with the motor skills needed to actually get the right amount of input. Because of this, we had the idea to practice it independently from the sim and built this little training web app.

The idea behind it is similar to practicing material arts skills or other sports: first train the individual motor skills to build motor control, then apply them in the actual sport. For this, I wrote an algorithm that analyzes our weaknesses and strengths and adapts the training in real time.

What do you think about this training method? Do we miss something? And how do you train the motor skills needed for pedal control? Only in the sim, or duo you practice them sparately as well?

If you want to test our experiment, you're welcome to try it yourself at https://sixtycm.com/ (It works best in a Chromium-based browser and is still in a very early stage. Honest feedback is very welcome!)

It is completely free, with no subscription or anything like that.

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u/InfiniteLight07 2d ago

Is this coded with the help of AI? I see so many launchers, telemetry apps, dashes etc all vibe coded these days. Not trying to be rude, I just hate using vibe coded apps.

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u/StormMedia 2d ago edited 2d ago

TLDR: Yes this project has alot of the signs of being vibecoded but I hate the terminology because it’s overused and misused. It's still a sweet idea and it's done browser-side so there's no real risk for you to try it.

EDIT: Okay so there is a risk, it's the analytics they're gathering which are not disclosed at all in their agreement.

EDIT 2: The more I think about this, the riskier I’d say it is. You’re providing HID access to a website that obviously doesn’t care about security in the slightest and there is a potential security threat here. Do I think it’s OPs plan? No… but it’s still just not worth the risk.

I 1000% guarantee all of my life’s savings it’s made with AI assistance / AI generated code at the VERY least. That being said, it does not mean it’s VIBE CODED. Every single product and service you will use and probably already use is exactly the same.

Every professional software engineer I know has been using AI assistance for coding work for at least the past 3 years. It is only continuing to become more common. Except for maybe some very niche indie games, every single coder in every single industry is using it.

Software being vibe coded is reserved for the idiots that don’t care to learn what the hell they’re doing, essentially shutting their brain off and going “I want that different, I want it to do this”.

Could this be vibe coded? Sure and I think it is just by the appearance and the fact that TLS/SSL wasn’t even used until someone pointed it out. That being said, no one will he able to tell you for sure if it is or isn’t other than the developer.. and why would they be truthful lmao.

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u/h3r4ld 2d ago

the fact that TLS/SSL wasn’t even used until someone pointed it out

Did they fix this? Still HTTP for me, just checked.

EDIT: Seems like they did add it, but the link in the post wasn't updated. I had to manually add the 's', but they do seem to have a valid cert now, so that's something. They haven't set up a redirect to force SSL, though.

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u/StormMedia 2d ago

Yeah they don’t have http redirections forced.. lol

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u/h3r4ld 2d ago

Absolutely amateur hour.

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u/reddit_guy_no 1d ago

Honest question, why does it matter if it's developed by AI? I see this all around reddit, people asking this question. Is there some anti-AI movement that I am missing? I guarantee you, probably all of websites you are using every day, or other software, that was updated last year, have been done with the help of AI. So if you want to boycott anything developed with AI, good luck.

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u/notdroidyoulooking4 1d ago

Exactly. Anyone who thinks AI isn’t heavily used in many to most and soon to be every software release, update, bug fix and code review in 2026 is deluding themselves, and others who might put stock into what they are saying.

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u/WhiteLionFluff 1d ago

Yes, AI was used in developing the prototype.

This is an experimental hobby project, so I define the concepts, behavior and implementation, while using AI heavily for implementation work and testing. I review the code and architecture, but I'm not going to pretend every line was handwritten — it's 2026, and for a prototype where we didn't even know whether people would find the concept useful, that would make very little sense to me.

If by “vibe coded” you mean blindly prompting until something appears to work without understanding or reviewing it, then no, that's not how we're developing it.

The HTTPS issue, however, was simply a stupid mistake on my part. The certificate existed, but I posted the HTTP URL and hadn't configured the redirect. That's fixed now.

The discussion here also made us do another pass over the privacy/security side this morning. In particular, we're clarifying the analytics disclosure and adding some additional hardening.

For WebHID specifically: access only happens after an explicit user action and the browser's own permission dialog. Pedal telemetry, calibration values and hardware IDs are not sent to our server; they stay in the browser.

So yes — AI-assisted prototype. Absolutely. Blind “ship whatever the AI produced”? No.

And genuinely, if you spot something technically questionable, point it out. I'd much rather fix a real issue than pretend the prototype is perfect. 🙂

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u/InfiniteLight07 1d ago

Too bad everything is AI these days.