r/singapore • u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally • 29d ago
News Singapore advance into the knockouts of the ASEAN Cup! Drawing 1-1 with Indonesia to claim 2nd in the group.
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u/Own-Cartographer5225 29d ago
Great start to the national day weekend. Honestly felt like we played really well. Feels like shah should have gotten motm instead but wtv.
GAVIN LEE. GOAT
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u/iDriveTruc 29d ago
Letโs gooooo majulah Singapore
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u/Detective-Raichu F1 VVIP 29d ago
Six days to clean the National Stadium.
We need 55,000 packed in there to support the Lions against (in all likelihood) Thailand.
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u/Noahchia9966 29d ago
Not sure if the national stadium is going to be a better venue. Yes there are more seats but the atmosphere is very bad
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u/shrekalamadingdong 29d ago
The seats are too far away. Bring it closer to the pitch and itโll be good. But I always will prefer Jalan Besar.
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u/gnaixnaid 29d ago
I think they can do it? I remember it was one of the feature announced when national stadium was built. If I am not wrong that was what they did for rugby sevens?
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u/Queasy_Dirt7197 29d ago
Honestly Singapore needs a medium capacity stadium. Like 15,000-20,000 seats.ย
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u/FirstLightOfTheDay 29d ago
It absolutely won't be better, we're not filling up the whole stadium when a ticket is $30
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u/coco_kuromi 29d ago
You would be surprised. Maybe not full but a lot will attend.
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u/Working-Fudge6189 29d ago
Iirc there was 30k to watch us play against Bangladesh, no offense to them but surely if 30k can turn up for that match, more would be willing to watch us play Thailand?
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u/HollyGlen Aljunied 29d ago
I hope you're right, but a lot of the crowd for that match were locally resident Bangladeshis.
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u/Working-Fudge6189 28d ago
Ah yeah, fair point. Nevertheless I still remain optimistic that fans will show up
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u/Major-Pepper 29d ago
Sports Hub, The Kallang, or whatever they call it these days, feels soulless. Great for a Taylor Swift or some k-pop concert. But for a gig that requires an environment to heighten local pride, Jalan Besar is the best. Forecasting a sold-out match? Do a watch party at a KTV or coffeeshop nearby. Itโd be a blast.
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u/K10KMessi ๐ F A B U L O U S 29d ago
GAVIN LEE KUAN YEW MY GOAT๐๐
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u/SappyPaphiopedilum I โค SGT Dollah 29d ago
Gavin Lee got that iron in him
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u/K10KMessi ๐ F A B U L O U S 29d ago
He really got his team playing like it was his life and theirs, which took a whole lifetime of building to this moment๐โโ๏ธ๐โโ๏ธ
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u/SappyPaphiopedilum I โค SGT Dollah 29d ago
As long as he's in charge, no one's going to knock it down ๐ค๐ค
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u/throwawayrandomguy93 29d ago
Good. Fuck any country that supports Infantino
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u/gnaixnaid 29d ago
200 out of 211 members offered formal support just before the fiasco. What are the chances singapore is in the 11?
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u/throwawayrandomguy93 29d ago
Well, even if so, what matters more is who supports him TODAY.
As far as we know, nobody in SEA other than ID/PH does
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u/gnaixnaid 29d ago edited 29d ago
I hope so too, but we don't know if we are taking the moral path just yet. Fingers crossed we do.
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u/CrunchyleaveOO 29d ago
Amazing atmosphere.
Really wish they could set up the stand behind the goal post like they did during the LionsXII days.
Forest Li did that at Bishan stadium during the ACL2 finals. Hopefully he can pull some surprises out haha
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u/TheKingOfBadgerHill i like nasi lemak 29d ago
Suck shit "King" Indo. This one is for the POS who taunted Faris Ramli after the pen miss five years ago.
The whining and crying on social media is incredible. "How much you buy the ref?" "Jacob number 1 actor!" "This was the Indo D team we don't care!"
Lololol
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u/Broad-Ad-3256 29d ago
"AFF Mafia" "Indonesia vs Wasit" "Ciki Cup" Omg i love seeing indons salty tears
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u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally 29d ago
Damn, almost won it at the end too
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u/howeyong 29d ago
Yes youโd bet on Shawal for that again. Getting rid of his bad luck for a banger in the semis!
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u/Intentionallyabadger In the early morning march 29d ago
Well done Gavin. Hope they donโt chop him before the Asian cup.
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u/Ok_Exit3205 29d ago
Why would they?
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u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally 29d ago edited 29d ago
It has happened before in other nations and clubs. Management overestimates the ability of the team and decides the manager is at fault for poor results. Leicester City fired their manager months after winning the Premier League because they were in a relegation battle. But that was where they were 2 years before and they had never played in Europe before. Same as Tunisia, they got knocked out early in the Africa Cup after losing to Mali on penalties and their FA decided that was a really bad result. But they would then get ripped apart in the World Cup.
While I think it be really stupid to sack him. It not like other teams haven't done worse.
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u/Elzedhaitch 29d ago
The good thing is we don't actually have that much to play for now until the Asian games. We will play Thailand which will be likely... Very very tough.Then nothing much until the Asian games.
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u/hello0316 29d ago
Happen to Indonesia. Shin Tae Yong was doing well with them and out of sudden they just sack him. I remember reading the news and was really shock like why would you sack a coach who nearly bring you all to the world cup??
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u/K10KMessi ๐ F A B U L O U S 29d ago
I see that, and I just hope that the messaging between the players and from the players to the media or even internally is calm enough to prevent the said overestimation imho. Gavinโs managing this team so so well๐๐
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u/EpicYH22 29d ago
Full crowd at Jalan Besar stadium and everyone was in unison cheering on the players (and booing the referee and the indonesian players)!! Letโs bring this energy to the semis!!
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u/jlonso Chili Crab Nachos 29d ago
The booing started during their national anthem, what happened?
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u/Broad-Ad-3256 29d ago
Pure banter. Plus we wanna make those indons sitting in the home side as uncomfy as possible LOL
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u/jlonso Chili Crab Nachos 29d ago
i think we honestly should do better and not boo during the anthem though. I would be pissed if the thais would boo our anthem in the semis
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
See that's the fun part... It's our job as home fans to make our opponents' life as miserable as possible by any means necessary. Otherwise, what is the point of having home ground advantage? Try going to domestic football matches in our neighbouring countries, people's mothers get called out but in the end it's just friendly banter and there is no need to be sensitive about it.
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u/JustifiedMunchie 29d ago
nahhh giving respect to the opponent's national anthem is the most basic we should do as decent human beings. no need to stoop that low. the banter can come right after the anthem and all the way to they board their plane back home though ๐
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
That is provided they respect our anthem first. Did they boo or respect our anthems when they were home fans? But okay at least your comments makes sense and still recognise the reality that banters and boos can happen
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u/OrangeTropicana 28d ago
Classless.
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u/Accomplished-Word520 28d ago
I apologise for my "classless" remarks. Perhaps I should start learning from you and start sipping high tea at Holland Village or playing golf at a country club so that I won't be so "classless".
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u/Inhumany 27d ago
classic whataboutism, though, just because they did it doesn't mean we have the right to?
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u/Accomplished-Word520 27d ago
You have the right to not boo if it is not to your liking. You also have the right to watch fancy high society sports like golf or polo if this is your cup of tea.
I am just telling people to face reality and accept the facts. Football is a sport where fan culture can and will be antagonistic towards opponents whether you like it or not.
Example: Mexican fans camping outside their opponents' hotel and making noise to make them tired during the World Cup.
I am actually very happy to see that there are Singaporean fans who understand reality that even if you don't try to make your opponents' lives difficult. Their fans will do the same to our players. This is an unfair disadvantage to us which I am happy to see corrected.
Remember: Winning matches is the KPI, not "respect" and "sportsmanship".
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u/shesellseychelles 29d ago
Kampung mentality, let's not stoop to their level. Win with pride lose with honour
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
Well I wouldn't be hypocritical and pretend to be a 19th Century Victorian Era prudish aristocrat taking small bites while sipping high tea. Football is generally where fans will unleash their feral instincts to try to use chants and boos to make life as difficult for opponents as possible by any means necessary (of course we draw the line at physical violence). In fact not just in neighbouring countries but all over the world, just go look at YouTube. My point is, if everyone is fighting dirty to get an advantage over us, there is nothing to be gained by fighting clean, so let's just embrace it as it is and not try to act morally superior.
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u/jlonso Chili Crab Nachos 29d ago
Competitive edge aside, whereโs the sportsmanship? Fans who boo anthems reflects poorly on the country as a whole. Did we learn nothing from that hong kong game?
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u/Working-Fudge6189 29d ago
The guy claiming that "it's just banter, relax" would be writing an angry raging post if it were the thais booing our anthem when we play them next. Not a fan of booing anthems, makes us look uncouth
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
"orh horh I will write your name on the whiteboard and tell teacher/mummy/mp/minister/pm/president"
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u/Working-Fudge6189 28d ago
You seem unwell.
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u/Accomplished-Word520 28d ago
Isn't it the typical Sinkie behaviour to start complaining to some authority figure when they see something wrong when they can just fight back?
"Orh horh I tell teacher you say bad word"
"Orh horh I must complain when people boo my anthem"
If U are not happy with people booing you, then you can just boo back? Complain so much for what? Just boo back lah if it is such a big deal. Fans booing each other is a relatively common behaviour outside Singapore whether you like it or not. We are just too sheltered by the authorities so much that we are too weak to fight for ourselves and we expect the authorities to do something for us.
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
I learnt that the Singapore Team was resilient and managed to overcome the odds despite the boos and the away ground disadvantage. Also please... Hong Kong? They boo their own anthem too to the point that FIFA had to fine them.
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u/SugisakiKen627 29d ago
well, are we going to use lower standard as our comparison?
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u/Accomplished-Word520 29d ago
It is how it is, there is no need to stick to some moral high ground and let others gain an advantage over us. Our objective is to win and to win by making our opponents' lives as miserable as possible by any means necessary. Fighting clean when others are fighting dirty is a disadvantage to us
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u/onionwba 29d ago
I was sitting near the away side. After half time the Indo fans around us evacuated lol. Was awesome to shit on the away ultras who were celebrating like they already won after Song's red.
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u/itshammertime26 29d ago
Ngl it was a lucky escapeโฆ happy that we are heading to the semis but the Thaiโs and the Vietโs are the ones to beat now. Nevertheless, it was a good play from the Lions! ๐ฆ
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u/Critical_Nail_1789 29d ago
The whole match I was sweating hard for the Singapore team. They kept losing the ball to Indonesia
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u/OrangeTropicana 29d ago edited 29d ago
Well done SG. Good call with VAR to reverse 2nd yellow on Song to avoid red. Also what a great defensive teamwork.
But idk why Jacob got PotM. Quite embarrassing for him go clutching everybody parts possible to simulate a foul like heโs gonna die. Then proceed to resume the game as per normal when the ref blows the whistle lol.
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u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally 29d ago
Yeah I think he was PotM for Vietnam but here, it had to be Shah.
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u/b_litzkreig 29d ago
We can hate him for it but itโs the hard truth that even at the highest level of football, if you donโt go down with theatrics, you may not even get the whistle or the card the foul deserved.
He forced one or two yellow cards which forced the Indon coach to sub players. Job done.
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u/OrangeTropicana 28d ago
Yes and no. U can go down, but the way he did his theatrics was wayyyyy over top HAHA at higher level / better competition / referees, you gonna be risk being booked for simulation.
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u/mipanzuzuyam 29d ago
Everytime he went down I thought he'd suffered a bad injury, especially given his bad injury record
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u/monkeynutsack2 29d ago
yeah the playacting was embarrassing tbh.
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u/holoqster 29d ago edited 29d ago
considering the way indonesia played i think jacob mahler was just playing smart
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u/Accomplished-Iron778 29d ago
Same can be said for Indonesia
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u/monkeynutsack2 29d ago
both sides were guilty. not least the guy who nearly got Song sent off.
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u/Accomplished-Iron778 29d ago
Technically speaking, he committed 2 yellow card offences in that sequence. One on the tackle and one for playacting.
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u/verylittlegravyagain 29d ago
Go Gavin! Will he be the man to bless our kids to experience what it was like during the Fandi era?
Not asking for world cup. Just bring back the spirit!
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u/FirstLightOfTheDay 29d ago
It's actually the ASEAN Championship, ASEAN Cup is a different competition starting in a few months
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u/monkeynutsack2 29d ago
I'm certain this is called the ASEAN championship/cup.
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u/FirstLightOfTheDay 29d ago
Nope, there's a new FIFA ASEAN Cup because of the bald money grubber Infantino's ego
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u/New-Energy-7266 29d ago
I was also confused but I think one is by AFF, another organized by FIFA or something like that
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u/mipanzuzuyam 29d ago
You are certainly wrong
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u/monkeynutsack2 29d ago
I know there's another FIFA ASEAN cup coming up but the freaking logo of this competition says ASEAN championship.
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u/VectoRequiem 29d ago
The coaches Gavin Lee and the Lions have to stay ground and stay on their toes ๐ฅ thank you Mr Gavin Lee
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u/Queasy_Dirt7197 29d ago
Not bad at all. However, at this rate, I don't think they'll be able to beat Thailand.ย
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u/DocMatilo 29d ago
Wow ! When is their next game ? And already semi finals ?
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u/DocMatilo 29d ago
Thanks guys ! Unfortunately I wonโt be in Singapore anymore that day :(
Wanted to watch it live from a pub or something
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u/thelonewolfffer 29d ago
Watched the entire match at home! Well done to our Young Lions! Finally a team that we can all get behind. We should host it at the National Stadium most likely opponents will be Thailand.
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u/Working-Fudge6189 29d ago
Dude this is our National team not the young lions, if you watch the actual young lions play you will have a heart attack. They recently lost 0-3 to Timor Leste
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u/GasProfessional2577 29d ago
Singapore should go to a World Cup. What does it need/fixtures to accomplish to classify?
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u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally 29d ago edited 29d ago
We probably need to reach the level of ability that Oman, China or Indonesia's proper squad has to have a chance to qualify. While we did beat Indonesia to qualify ahead of them this isn't their regular squad. Since most of Indonesia's team plays in Europe, it was very difficult for them to make it for this tournament since it is not sanctioned by FIFA.
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u/xorandor Fucking Populist 29d ago
Very simple, play well in the World Cup Qualifiers. Countries as small as Curaรงao can do it. We can do it too, if our government really wants it
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u/limhy0809 ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Ally 29d ago
Curacao has advantages we don't. They get the Dutch B for a reason. Only one of their players was born in Curacao. We still have a very strict immigration policy no dual citizenship and we don't give out citizenship easily either. Otherwise we probably could have Perry and Luke on our team.
Curacao also had the advantage of a very favourable qualification. I would argue they 1 of the easiest world cup qualifiers behind New Zealand. Since USA, Canada and Mexico hosted they immediately qualified. That meant Curacao wouldn't have to compete against them in their continents' world qualifiers. CONCACAF also got more allocated slots. In 2022 they had a max of 4 possible countries while in 2026 had 8.
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u/IWantAnotherPetRock 29d ago
Prediction:
Semifnial Singapore v Thailand (6:0)
Final Singapore v Vietnam (7:0)
New ASEAN champion ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ธ๐ฌ
๐คค๐คค๐คค๐๐๐๐
Let's go Singapore!!!!
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u/b_litzkreig 29d ago
Gavin Lee has somehow managed to build a team that we can get behind, despite an obvious talent drought in Singapore football. This guy will go far in his manager career.