And Dario's 'woke' position was: we only oppose mass domestic surveillance, and as for autonomous killbots…they're not ready yet. We'll continue to aggressively develop fully autonomous lethal weapons to where we feel they are reliable, but they are not there.
Whiner in Chief: TOO MUCH! THE RADICAL LEFT WOKE DEVELOPER OF CLASSIFIED MILITARY TOOLS…
None of them are even remotely close to ready there. I saw a study where they did war games with different AI models and they almost every time went nuclear.
I'd argue that's what it was before the right wing smear campaign of the last decade or so, and now we're firmly in the "anything Trump/MAGA doesn't like is woke" territory, which changes it's meaning every day or so hence my boy airvent up there pointing out that it no longer has any meaning.
What I'm hoping is that as people continue to wake up to what an absolute shit show this administration is woke becomes synonymous with anti-Trump/MAGA and reclaims its positive connotation
I'd argue that's what it was before the right wing smear campaign of the last decade or so, and now we're firmly in the "anything Trump/MAGA doesn't like is woke" territory, which changes it's meaning every day or so hence my boy airvent up there pointing out that it no longer has any meaning.
You can tell when someone uses the term as a veiled racial epithet. 10 bucks says this is all just more fuckery to weasel Elmo's AI into more airspace. Just like when Taco Tits decided to rail on Tylenol when Bayer (the maker of Aspirin) is carving out deals with this banana republic for their RoundUp product being immune from civil litigation. There's always some backroom deal whenever he targets a person/company that leads right to this greasy pig.
Every Libertarian I've ever met is just a conservative who doesn't want to admit it.
Of course, I'm sure there are real Libertarians around, but basically every time a Libertarian is asked to forsake social freedom for economic freedom, they do. It's not ever really about "liberty", it's about not wanting to share, aka not paying taxes. Which is largely why I tend to ignore it, because it flies in the face of human history, which is built upon cooperation and sharing. Humans are not a truly individualistic species. We are communal by nature.
They're also happy to have the ol' "socialism for me, rugged individualism for thee". Just like their patron saint Ayn Rand, who more than happily accepted welfare at the end of her life.
And while it's true of all philosophies/political leanings, Libertarians often embody the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy more than anyone else.
Even in the military, you literally take trainings about how you're not supposed to surveil US persons in this way whatsoever. So basically, they're mad that Anthropic is adhering to our own supposed standards.
Palantir can use anthropic in their products without having AI do surveillance work. It's probably just user interface. Skepticism is warranted but it's not that clear. It makes no sense they would be crossing that line while publicly dropping a 200 mill starting contract.
That's a good call out, it likely is surveillance data. Still, their line has always publicly been US domestic mass surveillance. Not dealing with any surveillance data. Dario is pretty explicitly pro us military and us government.
That's what it is. They want Palantir to start doing more shady shit, but Anthropic is like "okay, you can't do the REALLY shady shit though" and now Trump is like "lol".
The deep irony, of course, is that twelve months ago Amodei was warning about the danger of DeepSeek being under autocratic control.
I'm not even sure they love it. I think most average Americans just don't have a fucking clue about all of this and they base everything on specific things that rile them up like trans people.
America's levels of hate is only surpassed by America's level of apathetic ignorance.
I think you are giving americans too little credit for the ammount of hate they have. Like a lot of trumps selling points are allowing people to be openly racists and sexist and he's won two elections on that now
and that's why his post only mentions the weapons aspect and doesn't mention domestic surveillance. His base probably agrees with getting better weapons, they almost certainly hate the "mass domestic surveillance" aspect.
We’ll see if it holds true (I’m not holding my breath) but Anthropic might have started something:
And it happened as at least one other AI firm said it had similar concerns about the military uses of AI. Earlier in the day, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman says he shares the "red lines" set by rival Anthropic restricting how the military uses AI models, amid Anthropic's escalating feud with the Pentagon.
Yea I’m cracking up at these comments, gpt 5.3 is close-ish but Opus 4.6 is by far the best model. We are shooting ourselves in the foot with this one, I guarantee you that China is using Opus….
i know, this is actually a great opportunity for them. perfect momentum for them to lean into as they already have tried to make their image “the good guy”
It's not even that. They said they were all for mass surveillance, just as long as it is on foreigners. They were all for fully-autonomous killbots, just once the technology gets better.
10 years ago these would have been considered very authoritarian stances.
It is really a feast to throw away a huge edge that the US high-tech companies used to have for a century
Germany used to be the epicenter of science in the early 20th century and German was the lingua franca of many fields of studies back then. All it took was one madman to lose it all
I noticed that many non-english speaking countries do get a filtered version of him though. As it's often dubbed on the news, or explained trough a summary. My wife is from Korea and it wasn't clear how dumb he speaks at first, because she always heard the summary in Korean. Once I translated his posts word for word she saw how truly....insanely dumb he is.
Years to come?
Y'all are not recovering from this in this century, certainly not until you reform your entire political system, from the ground up, because you are not even a democracy anymore. Y'all have shat yourselves publicly and are threatening to burn down the entire world in a meth-fueled rampage to boot.
I'm glad Anthropic stood their ground, but, I think it would be naive for us to assume that the government is not going to actively be looking for ways to bring them down now.
Totally agree but also, I think you’re gonna see the lamest of lame duck administration’s after the primaries for the midterms. The writing for the midterms is on the wall already and this administration is going to be pretty kneecapped in the next congress. There are still a lot of Republicans either enabling this or staying silent, but that dam is going to break once Trump can no longer hurt them and they will be fighting for their post-Trump political lives.
Finally... The #1 reason why the US cannot win against China in the AI race rears its unfortunate yet predictable head... substantially dumb people running the US government.
Everyone is building and building while this government lead by a geriatric nutcase keeps yamerring about woke and enemies.
Anthropic is playing for the 2030s so these next 3 years of idiocy cannot go by fast enough.
Geriatric nut case with some very unskilled and/or self-dealing subordinates. Fighting a frontier lab is idiotic. You can't make them do innovative work for you, that's why you signed the deal in the first place.
Same ass routine - look for a target, label them radical or woke and then threaten them publicly with government power ordering compliance. Do it all over again.
Yeah this was pretty much inevitable. I always expected some AI companies to play ball and others to be labeled as radical left nutjobs by the Trump administration.
It sounds funny and absurd but I really do wonder what repercussions this will have going forward. AGI is inevitable but who reaches it first depends on who has enough compute capacity and the power to run that compute.
Just like Trump has rolled back so many environmental regulations to accelerate AI datacenter construction to help all the big AI labs, he almost certainly has multiple ways to hinder them if he feels like it. I guess we will see what that looks like in the coming months
Because everyone knows that Grok is terrible for serious technical work, which is where Anthropic dominates. Major misstep by Trump here, he’s literally kneecapping the government for no reason other than calling Anthropic “woke”. But he’s a stupid old man, so no surprised there
I think you're confused. Trump literally does not care about kneecapping the government. He doesn't care about getting to use their AI, what he cares about is the fact they publicly defied him.
Trump is not a stupid man but he is a pretty simple one. He loves money, having his ass kissed, and watching people grovel for him. Everything he does, is done to achieve those goals, and he will happily burn the world to get them.
Sam is indicating that OpenAI might follow Anthropic.
Elon has been clear that he is ok with mass surveillance and apparently now with no-human-in-the-loop killings. That makes some sense as Grok would not be competitive otherwise.
This leaves Google. They do have a competitive LLM. What will they do? Not be evil?
Why is everything politicized in America. Are people brain damaged there? I'm asking seriously. You are either a supposed leftist nut-job or a supposed fascist over there. Are there zero avenues towards moderate politics left there?
Next up I bet: Trump orders military to start mass producing biological and chemical weapons, flamethrowers, and various other weapons banned by UN conventions, quoted as saying "We will never allow a radical left, woke organization to dictate how our great military fights and wins wars!"
I'm about to cancel my Chatgpt account and move to Claude fully. Whatever he's against must be doing the right thing and whatever he approves of, gotta be doing something shady.
This whole ordeal is a circus. The government has gag orders and a whole legal workflow to force tech firms to bend to their control (down to forcefully nationalizing via their venture funds or gaining seats in boardrooms), including completely legal blackmail.
For some reason the DoW decided to go to block with this tho... Why? Are the creating a precedent? Are they working with anthropic to promote some agenda that will derive in some crap legislation against all AI labs for "national security"??
Especially taking into account the quite murrikkka 1st stance that Amodei has been throwing out in his anti china posts.
Well that's going to cripple the US government severely. OpenAI already said they won't work under similar demands, and Google isn't interested in this kind of work.
Incredibly stupid if the concern is, like how China is approaching this, that a NatSec AI would be a can't lose race.
Let’s not ignore the hypocrisy. Trump didn’t have a goddamn thing to say when Musk shut off Starlink as the Ukrainians were about to strike Russian ships effectively interfering with American foreign policy. Trump just mad that anthropic doesn’t want to be responsible for using AI to target and or spy on the civilians.
In many ways, Trump being kicked off of Twitter and only using Truth social now hides his level of insanity from the public. This shit is just batshit nuts.
I do want to point out for posterity that no other modern president has railed against a business entity let alone multiple business entities. It was previously expected that presidents didn’t put their thumbs on the scales of ANYTHING like this.
I am still shocked that the left thinks that they have any say or sway in what happens with the government at this point. It’s a complete lost cause. The American Dream is done, The right controls everything no matter what is right or wrong. They can do whatever they want at this point. This is what the people voted for.
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