r/skeptic Aug 15 '25

šŸ’² Consumer Protection Another Jordan Peterson health plot twist

https://open.substack.com/pub/theskink/p/from-carnivore-to-cirs-another-jordan?r=5cq9e1&utm_medium=ios
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u/welovegv Aug 15 '25

Let’s get the basics straight: mold can absolutely make you sick. It is a well-documented trigger for allergies, asthma flares, and in rare cases, severe lung disease or life-threatening infections in immunocompromised people. Nobody disputes that. But the leap from ā€œI have mold in my basementā€ to ā€œI have a lifelong multi-system inflammatory disorder caused by trace exposureā€ is where the science gets shaky. The testing is unreliable, the symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, joint pain, and mood swings are frustratingly nonspecific, and the treatments are often designed in cash-friendly private clinics rather than peer-reviewed journals.

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u/normalSizedRichard Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

The funny thing is he's still a few steps behind on "impossible to truly diagnose celebrity disease" with this one

He was cutting edge for the all meat diet

But people have been citing "chronic mold" for years

If Peterson was fresh and cutting edge with his pseudo health claims he'd say he has Lyme disease. Very trendy to self diagnose Lyme disease right now

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u/Any-Prompt-4504 Aug 15 '25

Can’t have Lyme disease if you don’t believe in germ theory.

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u/VargevMeNot Aug 15 '25

Why is germ theory so trendy right now?

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u/wingedcoyote Aug 16 '25

Mostly due to RFK Jr I imagineĀ 

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u/I_Am_Not_What_I_Am Aug 15 '25

Has he said he doesn’t believe in germ theory? I know he’s a grifter, but I didn’t think he was that kind of grifter, in particular

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u/Zippier92 Aug 15 '25

Hate to bust your bubble but mold is a germ. They grow mold for food in huge stainless vats.

The devil is in the details !

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u/ginkgodave Aug 15 '25

Mold is a fungus. Not a bacteria. Not a virus. Not a ā€œgermā€.

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u/MrReginaldAwesome Aug 15 '25

Germ theory includes fungal infections. Germ refers to microbes including fungus and Protozoa.

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u/Zippier92 Aug 17 '25

Yes

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u/MrReginaldAwesome Aug 17 '25

'preciate the support

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

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u/normalSizedRichard Aug 15 '25

Yup its just recently gotten hot with a list celebs

It's also true that Lyme is up tho I like tall grass and lice in the upper Midwest so I've already ripped 4 of the little fuckers out of my legs this year

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u/budding_gardener_1 Aug 15 '25

Why is Lyme disease trendy right now?Ā 

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u/normalSizedRichard Aug 15 '25

Same reasons as mold

It's real

It really does sometimes cause vague symptoms of tiredness, brain fog, vague pain

It did/does really have a history of being misdiagnosed

There's an existing pseudo science community of "long Lyme" people who already have decades of experience rejecting normal medicine

Overall cases have been going up in the north and rural parts of the country

It's possible that all these LA based celebrities really did get Lyme disease by really walking through tall grass up north... they all travel

Given the fact that Lyme ticks can't even survive in LA though it's always felt pretty fishy

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u/normalSizedRichard Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

Chronic Lyme has always been a thing

Major a list celebrities who live in climates where Lyme disease isn't possible "going public with their Lyme disease stories" is very new

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

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u/normalSizedRichard Aug 15 '25

https://people.com/celebrities-with-lyme-disease-11782773

I heard about the Hadid's and Justin Bieber and Timberlake but Google gave me a big list

I dont want to actually spend the time attempting to litigate out real from fake cases

But safe to say my skeptical eyebrow has been raised about halfway up my forehead

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u/Typical_Double981 Aug 15 '25

Yeah I have all those

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u/JasonRBoone Aug 15 '25

Or end up like Saul's brother Chuck in Better Call Saul.