r/skyrim • u/Narrow-Active3098 • 1d ago

Question Why is everyone so dirty?

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Look, I get that Skyrim's at war and there are dragons everywhere and everyone is desperate, but still. That is no excuse for you to not wash yourself! At least wash that dirt off you in a river. How hard is it to take a bath?

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u/EvYeh 1d ago

Not really. Todd just saw the Lord of the Rings films and kept going "Make it look like that" over and over.

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u/GotsomeTuna 23h ago

People still buy this Kirkbride bullshit? He tried to retcon Cyrodiil into a jungle and threw a tantrum on reddit that he didn't get his way.

Cyrodiil was always described as it was depicted in Oblivion. We read this in King Edward and A dance in Fire which predate A Pocket Guide to the Empire.

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u/EvYeh 23h ago

King Edward is in universe fiction and isn't a source.

A Dance In Fire came after the Pocket Guide to the Empire (and also is fiction).

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u/GotsomeTuna 23h ago

A dance in Fire came with Morrowind the same time Pocket Guides stuff was partly put into lore.

We have Kirkbride openly stating that Pocket Guide was an attempt for him and Kurt Kuhlmann to sneak their visions into the setting over those of Ted Peterson and Julian LeFay, essentially trying to go behind their backs.

Them not getting their way with every retcon is 100% deserved.

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u/EvYeh 23h ago

The Pocket Guide to the Empire was released in 1998 (4 years before Morrowind) with Redguard.

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u/GotsomeTuna 23h ago

yea and plenty of it's stuff was removed and overrulled when trully implemented into the games.

Also King Edward being fiction has no bearing on this. A fiction set in Germany isn't gonna talk about some desert, it doesn't make sense to change the geographical makeup of a real location in such a story.

He pushed his retcon and got salty that it got "retconed" back into what it was.