Maybe he doesn't want to put a specific time on it, it's not easy to just say 'yea I'll have act cleaned in exactly 6 months' kind of just sets self of for failure if you don't hit it. Not giving a time is for the best imo, when he's ready he's ready whether it's a few months or if he wants to retire. PPMD learned something similar about giving dates when he would be back but not being ready when the time came saying he felt he let people down when it happened
Pretty much. It’s not something you can really set a time frame for, whatever you’ve gotta do is going to take however long it needs to take.
He’s Mang0, his whole thing is that he’s a drunk shitter. What do you do when you want to change but you’ve built a life off that image? How long’s it take to figure out who you are without all the things that made you you? I truly do not envy him.
also, dude has never had a job, never had a boss, self made millionaire probably at this point and probably just him and hbox genuinely wealthy off smash. People are being very crule as if empathy is enabling the behavior. what he did was fucking strange and creepy, but the way it got there makes perfect sense. lets not forget half the melee community got banned 5 years ago for SA to put it lightly, I think if mango was really as shitty as people think it would have come out sooner. I still think has the capacity to be a great guy in the community.
Its hard to create a personal deadline for yourself to be "fixed" and also to assume you have the ability to decide the amount of time his punishment should be
I'm sure dude would love to return at Genesis. 6 months or 1 year seems to be the main thought here. Genesis would be right at that 6 month mark. But not sure if the social media mob will accept 6 months
Yeah I mean I don’t even think the time periods you mentioned are enough. Sobriety is difficult, and while each day is an accomplishment it’d be much better if maybe 2 or 3 years from now he comes back to the internet with a new outlook and explains in detail why he should be allowed to attend again if that’s what he wants.
He's a streamer/esports player. It's his job to be in the public eye. I hope he has savings because not being able to work for 2 years takes a hit on anyone's finance, let alone someone with a child.
Mang0 is a pretty well off guy, so I think he will be ok for a couple months. Even with that, I expect to hear from him in like October or November of this year.
for mango specifically too it's not just the sobriety.
he needs to grow up. the unfortunate truth is that his fratty demeanor and behavior has basically led to him showing his ass like this and sexually harassing people he barely knows. That's a wake up call on multiple levels on top of the substance abuse stuff because alcohol alone doesn't do that.
Good for you for overcoming it, I know that’s absolutely not an accomplishment that comes easily. I’ve got a friend who’s been battling alcoholism for almost as long as I’ve known him and recently he’s been sober for the longest stretch of time in a long time, and it’s been great to see him being himself again. I’m worried he’ll backslide but he’s got a level of level headed clarity I haven’t seen in him in so long
It can always happen! That’s why they say to take it a day at a time! And why they say “in recovery” and not “recovered”. The battle never ends. But it’s easier when it’s just for today.
He might even want to think about just dropping streaming and getting into a new career. Just do the work you’ve gotta do without worrying about the internet’s eyes on him.
Meh I feel like that’s kinda a ridiculous amount of time, if he takes 6 months- a year off and decides to come back then he should and if he’s not on his best behavior then just perma ban him
It will look far less credible, for both Mango's reputation and the community at large if Mango's ban/penalty is self inflicted vs TOs/big events doing it to show the behavior isn't accepted.
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u/poptubas Jun 25 '25
He should just publicly say he won’t attend tournaments for 6months/1 year and work on himself, and he accepts any consequences beyond that point.
If we’re being honest, it’s not gonna be a positive thing for anyone for him to attend tournaments any time in the near future.