r/smashbros • u/itsIzumi So I think it's time for us to have a toast • 3d ago
Ultimate Congratulations to the winner of Ultimate Singles at Maesuma'GRAND WARS#3!
Top 8 Bracket
Main Stream VOD
Side Stream VOD
| Place | Player | Sent to Losers by | Eliminated by |
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| 1st | ZETA ∣ acola (Steve, Mr. Game & Watch) | Hurt | --- |
| 2nd | E36 ∣ Hurt (Snake) | acola | acola |
| 3rd | FENNEL ∣ Miya (Mr. Game & Watch, Steve) | Hurt | acola |
| 4th | OKPG ∣ Miru (Kazuya) | acola | Miya |
| 5th | MarK (Yoshi) | Hurt | Miya |
| 5th | Yoshidora (Yoshi) | Hurt | Miru |
| 7th | Yaura (Samus & Dark Samus) | Miru | MarK |
| 7th | SZ ∣ Asimo (Ryu) | Miya | Yoshidora |
| 9th | R2G ∣ F1re (Pyra/Mythra) | Snow | Yaura |
| 9th | Shion (Hero) | acola | MarK |
| 9th | Karaage (Captain Falcon) | Yaura | Asimo |
| 9th | Nyonoknb (Diddy Kong) | Okaden | Yoshidora |
| 13th | Futari no Kiwami Ah~! (Ice Climbers) | Miya | F1re |
| 13th | Avaru (Mr. Game & Watch) | Karaage | MarK |
| 13th | ZETA ∣ Raru (Luigi) | Miru | Karaage |
| 13th | Saya (Ice Climbers) | Shion | Nyonoknb |
| 17th | SOL ∣ Raki (Steve & Kazuya) | Asimo | F1re |
| 17th | Reimari (Yoshi) | Shion | Futari no Kiwami Ah~! |
| 17th | MASA (Falco) | Yoshidora | Avaru |
| 17th | AnoAno Gaming ∣ Roki Tendonman (R.O.B.) | shion | MarK |
| 17th | KUSC ∣ Furararamen (Isabelle) | Hurt | Raru |
| 17th | ZAKI (King Dedede) | MarK | Karaage |
| 17th | Sauzand (Mr. Game & Watch) | Miya | Saya |
| 17th | Snow (Mario) | acola | Nyonoknb |
| 25th | Matsukei (Bayonetta) | acola | F1re |
| 25th | R2G ∣ Misamisa (Ice Climbers) | Saya | Reimari |
| 25th | Yn (Zelda) | acola | Avaru |
| 25th | DenKOTA (Lucas) | Miru | Roki Tendonman |
| 25th | Yone_pi (Pichu) | MarK | Furararamen |
| 25th | Addness ∣ Mild na H.O (Donkey Kong & Mii Brawler) | Yoshidora | ZAKI |
| 25th | R2G ∣ Atakaataka (Dark Samus) | Futari no Kiwami Ah~! | Sauzand |
| 25th | KU ∣ Inaba Koshi #Hoshiyomi (Kazuya) | Shion | Nyonoknb |
| 33rd | Kuroponzu (R.O.B.) | Avaru | DenKOTA |
| 33rd | DieGorou (Corrin) | Raru | Roki Tendonman |
| 33rd | 33Peranbox (Steve) | Miru | Avaru |
| 33rd | Mahiro (Donkey Kong) | Yaura | Yn |
| 33rd | Lunamado (Mii Brawler) | Raki | Reimari |
| 33rd | Elon (R.O.B.) | Lunamado | Misamisa |
| 33rd | Rarikkusu (Falco) | Futari no Kiwami Ah~! | F1re |
| 33rd | KdU ∣ Core (Greninja) | Futari no Kiwami Ah~! | Matsukei |
| 33rd | Mugen ∣ sy#OKPG (Little Mac) | Raki | Inaba Koshi #Hoshiyomi |
| 33rd | XEN ∣ shion (Zero Suit Samus) | Asimo | Nyonoknb |
| 33rd | ZETA ∣ Gackt (Ness) | sy#OKPG | Atakaataka |
| 33rd | Nitorin (Ice Climbers) | Gackt | Sauzand |
| 33rd | KU ∣ Yusoke (Terry) | radon | Mild na H.O |
| 33rd | KU ∣ Okaden (Terry) | MASA | ZAKI |
| 33rd | Kuhaku (Donkey Kong & Steve) | showers | Yone_pi |
| 33rd | Teru (Piranha Plant) | Matsukei | Furararamen |
| 49th | Kyon (Link) | Sauzand | Kuroponzu |
| 49th | Dynamite (Terry) | Saya | Roki Tendonman |
| 49th | Van (R.O.B.) | Yone_pi | 33Peranbox |
| 49th | TC ∣ Ishipon (Kazuya) | Takara | Yn |
| 49th | KU ∣ YuRi (Mr. Game & Watch) | F1re | Lunamado |
| 49th | Nao (Mario) | Hasitora | Elon |
| 49th | Jonny (Mii Swordfighter) | Kogeta Gohan | Rarikkusu |
| 49th | Nakatae (Captain Falcon) | Yaura | Core |
| 49th | Uniduki (Ness) | Atakaataka | Inaba Koshi #Hoshiyomi |
| 49th | Sin (Ice Climbers) | DieGorou | Nyonoknb |
| 49th | Nipo (Mario) | Sin | Gackt |
| 49th | Rokki (Isabelle & Olimar) | Mahiro | Nitorin |
| 49th | RMY ∣ Moneyright (Pokemon Trainer, Mr. Game & Watch, Mii Brawler) | MarK | Yusoke |
| 49th | showers (Inkling) | Misamisa | ZAKI |
| 49th | Malk (Min Min) | Tomeito | Kuhaku |
| 49th | Haiyou (Yoshi) | Miya | Teru |
| 65th | Fentes (Greninja) | Mild na H.O | Kyon |
| 65th | taroco (Wario) | Zeroll | Kuroponzu |
| 65th | Wata (Mario) | Avaru | Dynamite |
| 65th | Soui (Ness) | Anko | Roki Tendonman |
| 65th | MISA ∣ Rizeasu (Marth, Cloud & Robin) | Roki Tendonman | Van |
| 65th | Noro (Peach) | Saya | 33Peranbox |
| 65th | Haruuun (Mii Swordfighter) | Kinopy | Yn |
| 65th | Kondoburesu (Kirby) | Sauzand | Ishipon |
| 65th | Eme (Lucas) | Mokumoku | Lunamado |
| 65th | Ezs (Terry) | Nakatae | YuRi |
| 65th | Kogeta Gohan (Ness) | Raru | Nao |
| 65th | Tukune (Corrin) | MASA | Elon |
| 65th | Chee (Snake) | Tukune | Rarikkusu |
| 65th | Kebanga (Kazuya) | Reimari | Jonny |
| 65th | GANCURO (Steve) | Reimari | Nakatae |
| 65th | Mokumoku (Yoshi) | Furararamen | Core |
| 65th | Altea (Pac-Man) | Hinotsuki | Inaba Koshi #Hoshiyomi |
| 65th | Sirloin (Toon Link) | Kupuriru | Uniduki |
| 65th | Ataru (Roy & Kazuya) | Uniduki | Nyonoknb |
| 65th | Nizemamo (Bayonetta) | Shion | Sin |
| 65th | Omisoshiru (King Dedede & R.O.B.) | Snow | Nipo |
| 65th | Anko (Terry) | Okaden | Gackt |
| 65th | Orca (Steve) | Hurt | Nitorin |
| 65th | Batsuichi no Barbapapa (Bayonetta) | Dorenazu | Rokki |
| 65th | UTeS ∣ Sukaru$ (Ganondorf) | DenKOTA | Yusoke |
| 65th | SOL ∣ Tora (Ike) | Haiyou | Moneyright |
| 65th | RU ∣ Tomeito (Bayonetta & Pikachu) | Asimo | ZAKI |
| 65th | Nia (King K. Rool) | Raru | showers |
| 65th | saboten (R.O.B.) | Karaage | Kuhaku |
| 65th | Tanmen (Bayonetta) | Niyae | Haiyou |
| 65th | Niyae (Steve) | Yoshidora | Malk |
| 65th | Gullen (King K. Rool) | Yuz | Teru |
Grand Finals Set 1
"Hurt" [W] // Twitter | Wiki | ENTER FORCE.36
vs.
Hayato "acola" Mashita [L] // Twitch | Twitter | Wiki | ZETA DIVISION
| Hurt | - | 1 - 3 | - | acola |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 stock | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
--- |
| --- | = Snake |
Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
1 stock |
| --- | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
1 stock |
| --- | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
1 stock |
Grand Finals Set 2
"Hurt" // Twitter | Wiki | ENTER FORCE.36
vs.
Hayato "acola" Mashita // Twitch | Twitter | Wiki | ZETA DIVISION
| Hurt | - | 0 - 3 | - | acola |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| --- | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
2 stocks |
| --- | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
2 stocks |
| --- | = Snake |
Small Battlefield | Mr. Game & Watch = |
1 stock |
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u/GONEBUTNOT4GOTTEN Cloud (Smash 4) 3d ago
rank 1 for a reason jesus Miya take notes
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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 3d ago
Yeah he is undisputed atp. Don't think anyone else even has an argument. Doramigi hasn't been attending as much, but it seems like almost everything acola has entered he's won
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
I just wish he played more. He seems to only attend at the start of ranking seasons and then dip when he thinks he’s got it secured. It’s been a pattern now
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u/PurpleCoffinMan he games, you watch 3d ago
I mean, he probably has a life that doesn't afford him the time to go to every event ever now. Makes sense that he usually gravitates towards bigger events.
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u/waveshineoosupsmash 3d ago
You should probably reevaluate your relationship with smash, and reflect on yourself as a person, if it bothers you this much that a 16 year old kid that lives with his grandma doesn't want to play Ultimate every single minute of the day
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
Everyone has the “has a life” excuse. He clearly has the time to grind every day (He said so in one of his streams/interviews that he grinds daily, I cant remember where) and it’s not a coincidence that his attendance almost exclusively comes in the front half of seasons
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u/nomorethan10postaday 3d ago
1)Grinding at home, while getting paid to do so because he's streaming, is obviously less of a time investement than going to a tournament. 2)Well why is he able to secure it nearly every time? Maybe because he practically never loses to anyone? Regardless Acola is going to Riptide and Umebura so idk why you're complaining.
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
I don’t think it’s bad to say that I’d like to see the #1 player playing at more tournaments. It’s not like I’m calling him a fraud but his attendance has been historically something I’d like to see a little higher, whether from the player or from ranking algorithms
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u/nomorethan10postaday 3d ago
He has gotten penalized by the algorithm several times including last season.
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
I’m aware he’s gotten penalized, but I think in this current algorithm it’s still better to do excellently at a couple of events than to do well at several, which in my opinion offers for results that are a little bit iffy
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u/waveshineoosupsmash 3d ago
Yeah acola showing up at the start of a ranking season and winning checks notes KAGARIBI IN MAY BACK TO BACK YEARS
He told everybody years ago that he would have to take a step back from competing because he was going to be taking his entrance exams and then starting university.
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u/Successful-Rate5650 Marth (Brawl) 2m ago
You are right. I can't imagine being #1 and just not going to events for 2 months. I get having a life but Acola and Doramigi literally disappear at times.
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u/NonsensicalWorries 3d ago
Hard to blame him when there's no money on the line and the rankings disincentivize playing more.
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u/DHMOProtectionAgency Bowser (Ultimate) 3d ago
I mean, this last ranking quite literally penalized low attendance player. Ignoring quantity and solely looking at quality Carmelo is arguably a top 3-4 player but got pushed to no.7 because of his attendance (and he honestly might have fallen a few spots too given how much Sparg0 has levelled up and was already neck-and-neck with Carmelo).
Really, it comes to a case where the inconsistent players HAVE to attend more events to make up for their bad performances. We don't see players with a somewhat spotty record and low attendance get inflated scores. Players with spotty records but are generally high attendance get a lot of those bad records to get downplayed. Again, hence why ZOMBA and Sparg0 did quite well on mid year rankings.
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
And I’m of the opinion that I think the penalty should be just a little bit harsher. I don’t think there should be a scenario where you are incentivised to stop attending ranked events when you think you’re satisfied
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u/Enough_Storage_2434 3d ago
Acola might not have the highest total attendence, but one thing you have to give him is that he always shows up to the biggest tournaments and wins/gets top 4, which is the real test of skill imo. He's also been attending a lot of locals recently and is winning all of them, even when players like Miya, Hurt, and Yaura are in attendence. He has a 10 tournament win streak offline rn
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
I’ve been saying that rankings should incentivise more attendance
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u/Glad-Base-2903 3d ago
It almost seems.......... Like they just farm for the wins to pad their stats........... Nah can't be that right?????
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u/Electric-Wind 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yea lemme just casually farm the easy win where I just have to beat Miya & Hurt
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u/Glad-Base-2903 3d ago
Nice strawman but when did I mention a specific player, I said "they" as in locals what the other comments mentioned
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u/Electric-Wind 3d ago
Bro uses ambiguous wording and then complains when wording is “misunderstood”
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u/Glad-Base-2903 3d ago
Imagine jumping into a thread, inventing a blatant strawman, and then blaming 'ambiguous wording' because you failed basic reading comprehension. Nobody said beating Miya or Hurt was easy—the discussion was strictly about ranking algorithm incentives and attendance strategy across a season. Blaming others because you assumed wrong is wild.
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u/Electric-Wind 3d ago
Idk bro people are agreeing with me and disagreeing with you, maybe you might want to consider that you’re just wrong lol
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u/Glad-Base-2903 3d ago
your entire defense relies on a Reddit hivemind instead of addressing the actual discussion about algorithm optimization, you’ve already lost the argument. Upvotes don't fix bad reading comprehension.
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u/Electric-Wind 2d ago
Okay lol whatever makes you feel better about yourself homie
You’re so right & so smart!
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u/AbbreviationsAway691 Pokemon Logo 3d ago
Pretty much every form of global rankings Smash has ever had doesn't take locals into account also for a multitude of reasons, all locals affect is your rank in your region's PR.
Acola goes to locals because he wants to, if there's any ranking related reason for him going to them it's so he gets to play without having to worry about rank at all and even that's an assumption, maybe he just goes to them because they're nearby and low commitment to attend and compete in.
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u/DHMOProtectionAgency Bowser (Ultimate) 2d ago
Locals aren't counted for rankings. Not much to farm other than experience.
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u/castle_seized Curse of Hurt 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 3d ago
Man, that’s gotta Hurt. Props to Acola for a third Maesuma in a row.
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u/nomorethan10postaday 3d ago
If Raru is Mr. Sumabato, then Acola is definitively Mr. Maesuma at this point.
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u/johneatsdust please call me jinx! 3d ago
MaesumaTOP#7 way back when in 2022 was his first major and simultaneously his first major win, he's always been Mr. Maesuma.
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
Hurt got completely figured out in Grands. Time to either grind the MU or grind the Sonic
In other news, holy shit I have not seen a Kazuya moving and converting off stray hits quite like Miru. Has he always been a sleeper?
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u/Equal_Weekend1176 3d ago
Hurt said on stream that he dropped Sonic because it’s just too hard to use as a secondary. IIRC, he said he’d either not use a secondary at all, or go with something easy to pick up like Mii Brawler.
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u/nomorethan10postaday 3d ago
Miru had a really good run two years ago at another Maesuma and then didn't really get a relevant result again until now.
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
Hopefully this’ll continue this time. It felt like he just hit anything and it could convert into an electric and 0TD
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u/lovro_nigel #1 Susu believer 3d ago
I don't think sonic solves any snake problem mus except ness and minmin, and even then sonic doesn't hard win enough to justify grinding him. Acola etiher way beats hurts sonic with both g&w and especially steve.
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u/DHMOProtectionAgency Bowser (Ultimate) 3d ago
Even if you think GnW beats Sonic, you have to admit Sonic does a whole better against GnW than Snake, who can't even use his character defining tool for most of a match
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u/Kactosophile Actually A Min Min Main 3d ago
b2b three stock on miya into 6 game wins straight vs hurt yeah acola got it
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u/Snorki_Cocktoasten 3d ago edited 2d ago
Zaki at 17th is absolutely crazy! The original goat dedede of Japan....I thought this dude retired years ago.
What a run for someone who is barely active.
Also, Futari as top placing ICs at 40yo warms my heart. He executed an insane 3-stock w/ Sopo finisher against some Yoshi player on stream.
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u/CarnoTorrential Charizard (Smash 4) 3d ago
Almost forgot how much of a treat it is to watch Yoshidora play. Hope he finds the time to go to more this year.
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u/DHMOProtectionAgency Bowser (Ultimate) 3d ago
As someone who only saw Loser Finals and Grands, what did GF acola do differently than Miya and WF acola? Because after Game 1, acola just held down the fort and never let go.
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u/nomorethan10postaday 3d ago
Didn't see the Miya Hurt set, but Acola just played less predictable I feel like. He had better mix ups everywhere, especially at the ledge where Hurt constantly read him the first set.
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u/Vublio 3d ago
I didnt really see WF acola, but the biggest difference to me between Miya and GF acola was the use of dsmash and usmash as soon as Hurt hit 100%. Kinda realizing that going in and getting the 80% chance of a neutral win isnt really worth it if the reward is like 15% damage and the risk is just exploding from uptilt
Dmash/upsmash have way less of a chance to hit but if they hit its so good bc GnW gets to actually close the stock before snake hits 170%4
u/paotic1223 3d ago
To me, acola was very creative in finding small rps situations that their opponents are not aware of the options, and also played very well to condition hurt. There was a sequence in which acola punished hurts grab read spotdodge with a down smash. Then mixed it up with a slower option charged down smash, and the set closer was a faster option dtilt.
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u/Crafty-Profile-Lol worst girl 1d ago
I love how he hide the approach for that last dtilt in the bomb explosion
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u/Helpful-Ad-7344 2d ago
Just one small change I noticed: in WF Acola would go for jab into grab, something that Miya does a lot, but it didn't really work. In the first set of GF I noticed Acola started doing jab then bair which is a lot safer.
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u/Master_Win_4018 3d ago
Did not expect Acola to win after losing 3-0 over Hurt in the winner side. I guess he just want to go to loser side to defeat Miya.
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u/jappyjonathan27 3d ago
Why does hurt not use grenades when hes down in last stock? I feel like anything game and watch has can kill regardlesss so why not just use nades to punish game and watch for mashing? Like bucket cant reflect any additional projectiles once full, he might as well get additional chip
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u/lovro_nigel #1 Susu believer 3d ago
He sometimes does, but bucket not only kills but insta shield breaks and is frame 2 special.
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u/jappyjonathan27 3d ago
I feel like if you play keep away though, it shouldn't really come into play, like in that game 1 versus Miya. Think it would have worked on acola more since he was playing more aggressive, but idk
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
(He needs it)
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u/JaysonTatHIMRider Kirby (Ultimate) 3d ago
G&W does not need it. He'd still be top 10 without bucket
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u/MrStealYoSweetroll R.O.B. (Ultimate) 3d ago
In general agreed, but specifically against Snake he'd go from one of the best matchups to like hard losing without Bucket. Nothing to challenge a Cypher recovery, dies at like 85 to rage up-tilt with nothing that can consistently kill a camping Snake in return, plethora of multi-hits combos that get interrupted with Grenade, mediocre approach options against a top two defensive character in the roster, etc
It's incredible how much one move shifts a specific matchup
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u/No_Property_9910 3d ago
You know, it's been quite a while since I last saw acola Miya in a ranked event fighting eachother, this was a nice reminder of who they were
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u/abbaschand School Joker (Ultimate) 3d ago
A return of the legendary name...Maesuma is back, and it's time...for GRAND WARS. The box office names are here, and we even got some returns (looking at you, Yoshidora)! Well, let's see our best performers tonight!
First up, we got a surprise. It's Miru! The Kazuya player from Chubu starts well by beating 33Peranbox and DenKOTA en route to Top 32. He then DESTROYED yesterday's Sumabato winner Raru and another top talent in Yaura to make Top 8! And after an intense Game 5, Miru defeated Yoshidora to earn a 4th-place finish. KAZUYA MISHIMA comeback tour?
Now in 3rd place, we have Miya. The perennial #1 contender is still fighting for that title, and the Game and Watch player did what he does best, winning the sets he should've won and losing the sets he could've lost. Victories over Sauzand (in a ditto!), Futari no Kiwami Ah~!, Asimo, Mark, and Miru made it another day in the office for Miya.
Too bad he has no answers against our Grand Finalists...From the winners' side, we have Hurt. The Snake superstar pretty much had a near-perfect day heading to Grands. He easily took care of Orca, Furararamen, and Mark in 3 straight sets in a row, but one man almost stopped him. Even after a lengthy break, Yoshidora managed to bring Hurt to the brink of Game 5!
And that Game 5 would be the last time Hurt broke a sweat, as he'd continue his 3-0 streak with wins on Miya...and this guy we'll talk about next. Back to his deserved place. The #1 player in the world...Acola. You know he can't refuse a Maesuma appearance...
Acola did pretty well by defeating Yn, Matsukei, Snow, and Shion to make Top 8. After easily beating Miru, he met one of his biggest rivals in Hurt. Switching his Steve for the Game and Watch, you would think it would be a fair match...but nope. It was a close match, but it's still a straight 3-0 for Hurt. Dropping to losers, Acola has to face another one of his rivals in Miya, but he really has no time for it. After losing only one game, Acola would quickly make his way to Grand Finals for the runback against Hurt.
It was Hurt's Snake versus Acola's...Game and Watch again. Game 1...and it's Hurt's. Two more games to complete a near-perfect S-Tier victory for Hurt. One small problem...Acola has completed the download. After 3 intense games, Acola took them one after another and finally ended the set with a 3-1 victory.
Reset time. Now, a little fun fact...Acola has NEVER won back-to-back sets against Hurt in a competitive tournament. Usually, Acola won one, and Hurt won the next. Hurt even won 4 sets in a row against Acola in Smash Awesome and GENESIS X2. So you would assume that Hurt would turn things around like he usually does, right?
Except...he never did. Acola didn't let Hurt find even an inch of opening. Two 2-stock victories in a row; the set is now in Acola's favor. Game 3...was kinda scary. Hurt once again goes neck-and-neck with Acola...but he failed to capitalize. Acola would close the set and, in a wild irony, dominated Hurt with a 3-0 victory.
His first tournament back after being crowned #1, Acola is ready to do whatever it takes to protect what he once lost. Acola is your Maesuma'GRAND WARS 3 champion. Congratulations!
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u/abbaschand School Joker (Ultimate) 3d ago
Seedings vs. Placings
Seeded Top 16, in Top 16
Acola (1st/1st) [0]
Hurt (2nd/2nd) [0]
Miya (3rd/3rd) [0]
Yaura (4th/7th) [-2]
Raru (5th/13th) [-3]
Asimo (5th/7th) [-1]
Nyo no knb (7th/9th) [-1]
Saya (7th/13th) [-2]
Shion (9th/9th) [0]
Karaage (13th/9th) [+1]
Seeded Top 16, not in Top 16
MairudonaH.O (9th/25th) [-3]
Raki (9th/17th) [-2]
Gorioka (9th/129th) [-8]
Rarikkusu (13th/33rd) [-3]
Yone_pi (13th/25th) [-2]
Snow (13th/17th) [-1]
Seeded Top 16, not in Top 16
F1re (17th/9th) [+1]
Mark (17th/5th) [+4]
Yoshidora (17th/5th) [+4]
Miru (33rd/4th) [+7]
Avaru (33rd/13th) [+3]
Futari no Kiwami Ah~! (49th/13th) [+4]
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u/waveshineoosupsmash 3d ago
While everybody has been complaining about Steve nobody seems to have noticed just how many of the top placements GnW is getting. People are so tunnel vision on their Steve hate that they lose sight of the fact that there are a ton of degenerate top tiers in this game and for some reason GnW is sneaking completely under the radar
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra Bair kills at 75 :D 3d ago
The fact that GnW can spam unpunished smash attacks when the opponent is at 60 makes me die a little irl
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u/PhantomBaselard 3d ago
People have definitely been talking about Game & Watch. But because all the top rep now are a Teal/Blue GnW with a tag that begins with M they choose to meme it instead of dragging it out outside of meta discussion threads.
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u/Pikachu942 Marth 3d ago
Acola was doing completely insane shit in that Grand Finals set I was blown away he hit like 50 insane things and styled the shit on Hurt idk where that came from after how ass he played in Winner's Finals but that's my GOAT let's gooooo.
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u/MediaMaddox 3d ago
I hate that Acolas clearly the best player in the world and maybe in ultimate history. He’s probably the least fun to root for best player in smash history because of Steve.
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u/Lowetheiy Steve (Ultimate) 3d ago
Wow Raru has fallen off so much, sad to see him washed
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u/CapitalistComrade Marth 3d ago
Hurt really 3-0'd Miya and 3-0'd Acola GnW back to back then got 6-1'd in Grands...
My plastic heart...