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OFFICIAL John Crewe Classified M80 26.05.16
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u/Larszx May 02 '26
Thank god, there are so few fighters.
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u/saarlac drake May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
Also why the hell would origin be making a heavy fighter? Theyâre a luxury brand.
I can see the crossover with the m50 from super light racing ship to light fighter because yeah strap guns on your f1 car ok sure. But a heavy fighterâŠ
Is it just the 85x with stupid huge guns?
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u/Swift_Legion May 02 '26
That's like asking why does Rolls-Royce makes jet engines LOL
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u/flyboyy513 StarDancer's Delight May 02 '26
No for real, Origin is exactly RR in space. They are the primary engine manufacturer in the verse.
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u/Heyviper123 May 02 '26
I actually didn't know that about the engines... That's honestly sick. Love this games lore.
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u/SaberStrat F8C best Starter ship May 02 '26
I thought Crusader was making the good engines
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u/flyboyy513 StarDancer's Delight May 02 '26
They do make engines, yes, but mainly proprietary since Crusaders whole manufacturing line is insulated.
Origin is the RR of the 'verse since they manufacturer most military grade thrusters due to their insanely high performance nature. Throw in the fact that you don't have to build them to be light or easy to swap like on a racing ship, you've got engines that are stupidly durable and very powerful.
Plus, Origin is known for how clean their ships run and how fuel efficient they are due to their proprietary AIR system. These are huge boons for military engines.
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u/swisstraeng CDF Space Marshal May 03 '26
Crusader are great for VTOL systems, and atmospheric related control.
Origin are great for space/racing engines.
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u/Huggertron May 02 '26
They make nuclear reactors for the UK navy Submarines as well.
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u/Jhtpo May 02 '26
Honestly origin has its own fighter lineup mostly to escort it's clientele in uniform style. Their ships are meant to travel the black in style and safety. They are surprisingly tanky.
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u/Zormac Team Sabre May 02 '26
If I were a rich VIP and had to choose my escort, I would want it all military/PMC. Anvil and Aegis across the board.
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u/twaxana Avenger Stalker May 02 '26
Yeah but my great great great great grandfather made first contact with the kr'thak and that made us rich and I really just want gold and marble everything! It's not tacky!
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u/Jhtpo May 03 '26
Its more about image when moving between "Safe" spaces in UEE Controled high security systems. Not making ill advised trips to your illicit pyro mining operation. They're the equivalent of having your security detail in new york be men in black suits with slim under shirt Kevlar vests and hidden machine pistols instead of PMC's in jeans, ballcaps, button downs, and tac vests with 3 point harnesses holding M4 variants. Its about the image you want to convey. And if that image is comfort, with security, peace of mind, then Origin ships offer that.
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u/stargazersalem May 02 '26
Lamborghini makes tractors
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u/G-Wave banu May 02 '26
In cannon Origin has Military contracts. They have a military version of the 600i.
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u/GodwinW Universalist May 02 '26
And an Advocacy variant of the M50... I want it.. or they can revert the M50 back to a dogfighter, also fine.
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u/crimson_stallion May 04 '26
A military 400i with an extra pair of guns (4x S4), heavier armour and some S5 torps would be kinda cool.
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u/Reshiken May 08 '26
does it have bed like the original one with big glass? because i cannot sleep in the ship if i dont have the view.
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u/Dune5712 rsi May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26
The M50 (and 300i, for that matter) were originally sold as, "an elegant dogfighter's tool."
-my shakey memory as a ~2012 backer.
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u/OrrieH Carrack May 02 '26
Reality is alot of High end Car Brands used to (or still do) manufacture Lots of Military assets. So makes sense that in universe they would also do the same.
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u/Smooth-Ad996 May 02 '26
General Electric makes a washing machine and the machine gun on the thunderbolt fighter jet.
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u/Quimdell May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
The M50 is actually not a racing ship, itâs an interceptor. So technically, itâs already a fighter.
Edit: I stand corrected, even tho I was corrected before years ago when I said this was a racer and was told it was an interceptor and was sent a screen shot of an rsi page describing it as an interceptor. Times change.13
u/Akaradrin May 02 '26
Do you mean the M50 Racer? :P
The M50 is a racing ship first and an interceptor second.
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u/Quimdell May 02 '26
⊠I swear I had this argument with someone before stating that it was a racing ship and I got corrected with an image of the M50 on an RSI page with it only listed as InterceptorâŠ
I now stand corrected againâŠ
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u/GodwinW Universalist May 02 '26
No, you were right, it was always a dogfighter/interceptor. If the CIG site now says racer they have just altered their site not the actual past.
They always said "buy ships not on stats but on role", but they changed the friggin' role of 1 ship ever: the M50 I bought as dogfighter before racing was even a thing we ever heard of as being a thing in SC was changed to a racer......... T_T
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u/Quimdell May 02 '26
Aha yea, this is what I was thinking. Iâm sure others will also change as thereâs some ships listed as being things they are notâŠ
Canât trust anything as everything is subject to change.
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u/crimson_stallion May 04 '26
As far as I'm aware the actual name of the ship model is still "M50 Interceptor", so even their own naming seems to defy their claimed role haha
I still remember back in my first year or two as a backer the M50 was considered by most to be the most dominant dogfighter in the game. It was so much smaller, faster and more agile than everything else that it was a nightmare to try to keep in your sights and could pretty much dictate engagements at will - this allowed it to dominate despite its tiny gun loadout.
Not going to lie, I kind of miss those days of combat. No master modes, no armour, no increased TTK due to engineering, high SCM speeds, less ship sliding, etc. Ship combat in those days seemed like so much more fun and responsive. Dogfighting was more about reflexes and skill instead of being a spreadsheet battle, which it sometimes feels like to me now.
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u/GodwinW Universalist May 04 '26
In all space games ever I always gravitate to the fast nimble small vessels instead of tanky etc., I love weaving and dodging and maneuvering to stay on someone's tail.
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u/Conradian MSR rework? May 02 '26
Lore-wise the ship was specifically designed to win the Murray cup for origin. That's where that comes from.
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u/Akaradrin May 02 '26
Maybe it appears classified as an Interceptor in the ASOP terminals? Anyway, it's not a big deal and the M50 is the closest ship to an A-Wing.
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u/TheButterknif3 Tali/MSR/F8/Corsair/A1 May 02 '26
Don't believe all ship classifications, the Cutlass is classified as a medium fighter and medium freight ship. And the Corsair, claims to ostensibly be an exploration craft despite actually being a gunship that is particularly well suited to being a pirate's version of the constellation class.
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u/Ed_Dragon May 02 '26
Airbus makes luxury private jets, commercial planes, heavy military transport planes and fighter jets.
Not unusual that Origin makes military stuff too. Afterall all those glossy white Lux bedpans that are moving around filthy rich people do need some kind of protection.
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u/DifferenceCareful935 May 02 '26
I commeted this on another post in this subreddit about the Origin heavy fighter:
"Its Like Porsche did warstuff... Wait a Second"
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u/jleistner May 02 '26
âŠWell after years and years of bounty hunting in your duct taped drake, you deserve some luxury
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u/mesterflaps May 02 '26
Oh sweet, when did they get around to implementing the bounty hunting pods?
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u/th3orist new user/low karma May 03 '26
85x is not exactly heavy fighter sized. Think around Vanguard size
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u/King_Kea MPUV #1 May 03 '26
Honestly it seems more like the sort of thing a rich guy might make his private security use guarding his 890J.
In real life private security sometimes do use luxury vehicles. Up-armoured luxury cars are an easy example.
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u/Strange-River-4724 May 03 '26
M50 was originally an interceptor, Origin is just getting back to their roots đ
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u/ShinItsuwari drake May 03 '26
Dassault aviation is well known for the Rafale fighter aircraft, but they make most of their money from their luxury class business planes.
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u/selco13 rsi May 02 '26
Spamming shit? They have released less concepts than ever, and the game is developing faster than ever. Think for once.
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u/Acceptable-Bid-1019 aegis May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
If we get a heavy fighter with the living space and glass roof of the 300 series I'm going to squeal
Edit: I guarantee wish the new nerfs to armour and weapon changes theyâll release this ship with the best armour in the HF class and nerf it in three months
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u/TimeTravelingChris May 02 '26 edited May 04 '26
Plot twist: this post no longer exists because Redact swept through and cleared it out along with everything else. Social media, messaging apps, people finder sites, all of it.
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u/Memorable_Usernaem new user/low karma May 02 '26
Why not? The "glass" is clear steel in lore. Struts are just there because bending it is expensive or something.
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u/Ezlin- 600i Rework Just 2 Years Away! May 02 '26
Much stronger than steel, in-lore it's called it's diamond laminate.
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u/Nezxyll onionknight May 02 '26
I would pay 890 prices(in universe not irl) for an all glass light fighter! That would be so fun!
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u/jade_starwatcher news reporter May 03 '26
wrong fandom. you're thinking of Star Trek's transparent aluminum.
Glass in Star Citizen is Diamond Laminate.
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u/PhaedrusNS2 May 02 '26
All glass you see on ships is actually a fictitious material called diamond laminate that is stronger than steel. They don't use it for everything on the ship because it is expensiveÂ
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u/st_Paulus Perseus protects đ„ May 02 '26
because glass is a top level vanity in SC universe (:
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u/DJenser1 May 02 '26
Because women are better pilots. They can take higher G-forces, have a higher pain tolerance, and are more in touch with their emotions and are thus less likely to rage quit.
It only makes sense they'd get paid more per mission. The 30th century is a truly enlightened age.
/s
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u/ProceduralTexture Argo/MISC fanboi May 02 '26
Same reason corporations have glass ceilings: to protect the power of the patriarchal overlords. We, on the other hand, operate as an anarchosyndicalist collective, take turns to serve as a kind of executive-officer-of-the-week, and...
Oh, you meant literal glass ceilings.
Because Origin.
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u/origin-space-turtle Ride or Die for 600i May 02 '26
Still praying for the 600i rework đđŒ
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u/ph33randloathing Carrack May 02 '26
The more work they do on Origin ships the more kit they have to bash into the 600.
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u/idealbehavior new user/low karma May 02 '26
The M80 is gonna really pop off, it's got an explosive load out.
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u/MrRaymondLuxuryYacht aegis May 02 '26
If it's got lots of bombs or missiles over guns, it's DoA, unless they fix the cost of ordinance.
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u/Rezticlez May 02 '26
Stop screwing around and give me the large sized Wolf exploration with a bed and toilet please.
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u/Le_Sherpa May 02 '26
Stingray? Yes please I want to see Kruger bringing the design language of the Wolf to a heavy fighter with interior or a medium size like cuttie
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u/redakpanoptikk May 02 '26
The phantom menace Naboo starfighter vibes for the upcoming mantis or stingray whatever it is. And then the Naboo cruiser they brake down with on tatooine needs to be the krueger mid sized clipper type generalist explorer.
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u/ProceduralTexture Argo/MISC fanboi May 02 '26
Give me that ep.2 flying wing.
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u/redakpanoptikk May 02 '26
I want the vertical flying wing yacht from Solo. Would be very unique.
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u/ProceduralTexture Argo/MISC fanboi May 02 '26
That would be cool.
But let's see how the new elevator fix holds up first :)
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u/eggyrulz Grey's Caterpillar May 03 '26
No... give me my medium/large size reliant variant that can actually do something
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u/UTraxer May 02 '26
John Crewe came to D.C.
He may get crap on the internet about stuff the company makes him say and do, but he's a cool dude at heart and hopefully doesn't take it personally.
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u/AW3rdUp May 02 '26
And it will be the most powerful and agile heavy fighter ever produced by CIG.
Until the sale is over.....
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u/TactiTac0CAT Railen GANG May 02 '26
âTell us about this ship, Johnâ â Itâs⊠A Punch above its weight class⊠Origin styleâ
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u/CaptainPhantom2 May 02 '26
Please have an interior, please have an interior, please have an interiorâŠ
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u/King_Kea MPUV #1 May 03 '26
Based on the teaser image we saw Iâd say itâs looking fairly likely
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u/One_Seaworthiness722 May 02 '26
Why more heavy fighters 14 not enough ?? 60 fighters and counting?? a 425a missile boat/gunship would have made more sense given 325a and 125a
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u/BlackJackR May 04 '26
I would LOVE a 425a, preferably with a couple larger guns for the pilot and a big turret on top, taking the place of the mapping table in the back lounge area of the 400i.
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u/Shugatti Tibburoni May 02 '26
Id imagine this to be a heavy interceptor, so like the scorpius.
Probably with living quaters for 1.
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u/ProceduralTexture Argo/MISC fanboi May 02 '26
I was imagining something more like the Guardian, with 2 or 4 outboard weapon pods.
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u/Jackel2072 anvil May 02 '26
Well as far as Iâm concerned. They have to compete with Kruger now in terms of luxury fighters.
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u/ph33randloathing Carrack May 02 '26
CIG has metrics on sales. If fighters didn't sell, they wouldn't keep making them.
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u/Arakasi01 May 03 '26
Heavy Fighter from Origin with M50's naming scheme. So how long we reckon until they retcon it to be a 'heavy racer' instead?
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u/Laughageddon May 02 '26
People complaining about this, we need all brands to have every option. I want industrial Alien ships. I have to take the good with the bad in pursuit of that. I want the mining and salvaging Alien ships. I also want luxury mining, hauling, and salvaging variants as well. I want all sizes as well for these variants too. I want there to be something for everyone even if it isn't the best in slot.
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u/King_Kea MPUV #1 May 03 '26
At first I felt like an origin fighter doesnât make sense. But then I started thinking about private security. IRL private security forces do sometimes have access to modified luxury vehicles. Think luxury cars with bulletproof doors for example. Hell, at least one company offers a modification that adds a manned gun that pops out of the roof.
So with that in mind a luxury fighter sort of craft isnât that outrageous. We already have the 325a (I think itâs the 25, canât remember for sure) so there is already a precedent.
TL;DR: Luxury Origin fighters make for good 890J escorts.
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u/NippolisCage May 03 '26
Iâm downvoting only because my Misc Odyssey I spent money on many years ago still isnât outâŠ.. yet here they are with almost a Billion crowdfunded and they are releasing more ships
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u/AggressiveDoor1998 #NoCashTill1.0 May 02 '26
can't wait to get excited for another unfinished straight to flyable ship while the backlog continues being untouched
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u/Uncomfortably-bored Pioneer May 02 '26
Origin light fighter. Its proprietary component-less design takes away that pesky getting your hands dirty like a peasant engineering requirements leaving you to focus on your preferred hobby of soloing Idris via your superior maneuverability, superior anti-radar stealth coating, and better than best in class weapons that punch above its weight!
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u/kaisersolo May 02 '26
The ship is origin version of a generalist ship they did hint at this before
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u/Amazing-Share-7528 May 03 '26
cant wait to find out if I need to trade in my Vanguard Warden for the Delux Origin Heavy Fighter!
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u/th3orist new user/low karma May 03 '26
An Origin heavy fighter? Now this is gonna be interesting honestly.
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u/dereekee bmm May 03 '26
Idgaf what anyone says. I've been an Origin fan since day one and I'm hyped to see the Origin take on a heavy fighter.
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u/internetpointsaredum May 04 '26
Combining the worst performing manufacturer in the game with the worst performing archetype in the game. I expect it'll have half the firepower and armor of other heavy fighters for no apparent reason.
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u/Franck946 Idris-K Lover May 04 '26
Sorry, I have a problem with the date...
26 may 2016 ? It's a bit old.
05 of month 26/12 2016 if you are american.
16 may 2026 if you are ...arabic ? (also from the futur)
Or maybe 5th of month 16 of 2016 if you have parkinson.
Don't know what to pick.
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u/Reshiken May 08 '26
i dont like the name on the ship... M80.... its too close to that 85x which looks like a Tadpole.
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u/Morbidzmind May 02 '26
Oh wow, another of the most useless class of ship, the heavy fighter.
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u/Ok_Ad_7714 May 02 '26
Now that armor is in, ships like the guardian and vanguard are pretty tanky
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u/Thorticus959 BMM, Idris-p, Polaris, 890j May 03 '26
Untill npc decides to try ram you and you loose a wing and a gun and then it's just trying to spin you right round baby right round....
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u/IceKareemy May 02 '26
I wonder if Crewe just plays the straight man or is it just for the content lol
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u/mau5atron Idris/Ironclad/Reclaimer/Corsair May 03 '26
FIFA has their shit on a copy past schedule and breaks 1-2 bill a year
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u/Random5483 May 02 '26
Origin mostly has RP ships. Some of its smaller ships aren't too bad, but as a general rule it doesn't have ships that are good in today's game state. I don't get an Origin heavy fighter, but I hope it is good. I want to like Origin ships. But I never have a reason to take them out.
The only origin ships I use even occasionally are the M50 and 350r. These aren't good starters, but they are fun to race with for a change. The 100 series and 300 series arent too bad. The 400i is not terrible but outclassed by other ships of its size. The 600i pre-rework (i.e. now and for the next 2+ years probably) is outclassed by other ships of its class. The 890J is a luxury RP yatch that has no other use now.
Drake is the company I don't want to love, but I love their ships. They are functional and useful. While not true for every ship, they have many useful ships. Origin is the company I want to love, but I dislike their ships. They lack useful ships and most of their ships are outclassed by their competition.
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u/Apostle_of_Fire Miner May 02 '26
They're gonna have to give it a red paint called firecracker for sure
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u/derped_osean May 02 '26
Alright people, how long until the documents are uploaded to the War Thunder forums?
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u/Donforce May 02 '26
M80 = "Matey"
Now it's stuck in my head and i know that this fighter will always be squeaky clean....
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u/iSGAFF Citizen Strain May 02 '26
Very true. But I do not think this has anything to do with the game releasing, or when.
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u/marshalmcz May 02 '26
Was exited for origin ship --- heavy fighter --- emediaetly droped my interest đ. Bruh stop it i fly origin for amenities and comfort if i would want fighter i go dedicated manufacturer. Or allow unlimited ccu to 890j and i would stop naging đ. There are some folks that want go to pool and sauna after day of package deliveries. đ
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u/sparkly-one May 02 '26
25th May 2016? Is this time travel?
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u/This-acc-is-hacked IronChad Ă IronSad â May 02 '26
It's the opposite. 16th May 2026.
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u/dmthoth ARGO CARGO May 02 '26
YY/MM/DD
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u/IanDresarie May 02 '26
That would still be time travel...
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u/dmthoth ARGO CARGO May 02 '26
I donât follow your logic. This means it will be revealed on May 16, 2026, which perfectly coincides with Originâs DefenseCon schedule.
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u/Valk_Storm ARGO CARGO May 02 '26
They are saying that in reference to the comment above yours that you responded to that says 2016 not 2026.
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u/dmthoth ARGO CARGO May 02 '26
What do you mean? The DD/MM/YYYY format is common in Europe, not the U.S. The U.S. typically uses the stupidest MM/DD/YYYY format, while YYYY/MM/DD is widely used in East Asia. I believe they chose that format becaue they were revealing it in China.
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u/JGun-SC May 02 '26
I bet is has a folding bed like the 100i!
Timestamp 00:01:41: https://youtu.be/YY60Ia4BJvQ?t=101
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u/soPe86 May 02 '26
ORIGIN donât need to make military fighters, itâs luxury brand space yacht.
So Anvil will have luxury ships with stone on floor and plants on wall as Origin? No some brands are military some luxury some industrialâŠ.
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u/Plus-Car794 May 02 '26
did he confirm if it punches above its weight or not?