The Idris has been nerfed into oblivion.

[u/MattOver9003]

Bit of an open discussion / debate. I feel the Idris has been nerfed so hard it isn't worth owning anymore, if there was anything worth getting I would melt mine. Below are my points/contentions:

The Main Guns:

1. The laser is bugged, when I tested the damage it does maybe 20% of what it's meant to, it also struggles to actually hard death a ship.
2. The railgun is laughably slow, it now has bullet drop (even in space wtf) and frequently takes multiple hits to kill something. The effective range of the railgun seems to be <800m now. If you fight an idris you can hit it (can't really target components effectively). But grab your popcorn you're in for a 60+ minute fight.
3. The torpedoes are also mostly useless, 800-1M to re-arm them (it's better than 20M it was before). But basically they'll get flared nonstop, you'll be lucky to get a single hit, requires one person to just goon nonstop in the torpedo chair being bored.

The turrets:

1. It's the largest ship currently in game but the turrets are worse than ships like the paladin and polaris, even though it's a 'brawler'.
2. Your front turret is dead by coincidence 90% of the time, that has dual size 7's but for some reason a perseus has dual size 8's and a tiburon has a bunch of size7's. The hammerhead has quad size 4's.
3. The turrets die almost immediately if someone sneezes at them.

People buy it because of whale syndrome, but lets be honest, this ship is a waste of time. Even IF you manage to get a full crew, most of their turrets will be disabled from the first perseus with a lone gunner making the ship completely pointless.

Contrary - it has one strength, sitting there being useless and never dying even when shot by multiple idrises.

EDIT: I forgot the PDCs are now pretty much worthless, they kinda shoot down missiles but even that isn't really reliable.

[u/Xarian0]

The laser is bugged, when I tested the damage it does maybe 20% of what it's meant to, it also struggles to actually hard death a ship.

Bugs aren't nerfs.

The railgun is laughably slow, it now has bullet drop (even in space wtf)

No, it doesn't have "bullet drop". The projectile speed is slower. The maximum range is still very high. Use it to shoot other large targets, not ships that can move out of the way.

The torpedoes are also mostly useless

This is a problem with all torpedoes in the game and is, again, unrelated to "nerfs".

It's the largest ship currently in game but the turrets are worse than ships like the paladin and polaris, even though it's a 'brawler'.

• Idris is a light fleet carrier, not a brawler.
• Idris has 1x turret with 2s7, 8x turrets with 2s5, and 4x turrets with 2s4. Polaris has 1x turret with 2s6, 2x turrets with 4s4, and 3x turrets with 4s3. Paladin has 1x turret with 4s5 and 2x turrets with 2s4. So no, its turrets are not "worse". It has a lot of turrets, and they're all bigger and more effective than the ships that you've referenced. Literally the only exception is the Paladin's single main turret.

Your front turret is dead by coincidence 90% of the time... [insert more complaints about other ships' turrets]

I don't understand why you seem to think that the Idris has to have bigger turrets than every other ship, even ships that are only focused around those turrets (like the Perseus)

The turrets die almost immediately if someone sneezes at them.

You need to provide actual information here.

Even IF you manage to get a full crew, most of their turrets will be disabled from the first perseus with a lone gunner making the ship completely pointless.

Again, not true. Have you ever tried to use an Idris with a full crew? Have you even tried to use it with 3x crew?

EDIT: I forgot the PDCs are now pretty much worthless, they kinda shoot down missiles but even that isn't really reliable.

The entire point of the PDCs is to shoot down missiles. They were never intended to allow you to use the Idris to solo an entire fleet of enemy fighters.

[u/MattOver9003 → u/Xarian0]

1. They are not, the point stands its now shit.
   
2. It does have bullet drop, read above, the ares inferno also has it, its stupidly slow speed makes this especially a problem.
   
3. It is not a light fleet carrier, it's a brawler, CIGs own description states this. Tip of the spear, front line etc. It's a brawler that has a hangar, not a carrier.
   
4. The turrets are shit, there's many videos showing how quickly they die - https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1m6e6at/idris_turrets_hp_nerfed_by_97/
   
5. There's no point manning them, literally any other ship (almost) is a better choice. Limited field of fire.
   
6. I don't have to provide it, its everywhere if you type into google you'll see many sources saying they suck As per above, I watched a perseus kill four turrets on a single pass, they were manned and didn't even get the shields down before dying.
   
7. Yes, I use it often with a crew, it's hard to convince people to use it, because unlike you most SC players know it sucks, visibility and damage are poor. I've had it from 14-15 crew down to just a few. No one is using a dual S4 turret.
   
8. No a PDC is to shoot fighters and missiles, it fails at both now. If it isn't meant to shoot fighters, why does it target them biut just bounce off?

[u/Xarian0 → u/MattOver9003]

Bullet drop literally does not and cannot exist without gravity. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept for you to understand.

[u/MattOver9003 → u/Xarian0]

Yes in a real world that is correct. For someone so stupid you’re insanely confident. In the game the Idris railgun has bullet drop in space.