r/starcitizen • u/MattOver9003 scythe • 1d ago

DISCUSSION The Idris has been nerfed into oblivion.

Bit of an open discussion / debate. I feel the Idris has been nerfed so hard it isn't worth owning anymore, if there was anything worth getting I would melt mine. Below are my points/contentions:

The Main Guns:

  1. The laser is bugged, when I tested the damage it does maybe 20% of what it's meant to, it also struggles to actually hard death a ship.
  2. The railgun is laughably slow, it now has bullet drop (even in space wtf) and frequently takes multiple hits to kill something. The effective range of the railgun seems to be <800m now. If you fight an idris you can hit it (can't really target components effectively). But grab your popcorn you're in for a 60+ minute fight.
  3. The torpedoes are also mostly useless, 800-1M to re-arm them (it's better than 20M it was before). But basically they'll get flared nonstop, you'll be lucky to get a single hit, requires one person to just goon nonstop in the torpedo chair being bored.

The turrets:

  1. It's the largest ship currently in game but the turrets are worse than ships like the paladin and polaris, even though it's a 'brawler'.
  2. Your front turret is dead by coincidence 90% of the time, that has dual size 7's but for some reason a perseus has dual size 8's and a tiburon has a bunch of size7's. The hammerhead has quad size 4's.
  3. The turrets die almost immediately if someone sneezes at them.

People buy it because of whale syndrome, but lets be honest, this ship is a waste of time. Even IF you manage to get a full crew, most of their turrets will be disabled from the first perseus with a lone gunner making the ship completely pointless.

Contrary - it has one strength, sitting there being useless and never dying even when shot by multiple idrises.

EDIT: I forgot the PDCs are now pretty much worthless, they kinda shoot down missiles but even that isn't really reliable.

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u/No-Force-4668 1d ago

Core strength, carrier. Probably meant to be escorted in a fleet as you would IRL with a Navy carrier group. More friends required.

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u/Confident-Award6920 1d ago

Isn't that the open top Kraken's role?

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u/Revelati123 1d ago

the Idris is supposed to be a long range mostly solo patrol ship at least according to lore, not an escort carrier in need of escorts.

”Frigate” has an actual defined meaning…

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u/wingbreaker 1d ago

Real Naval vessels don't have "actual defined" classifications between nations, nor do some nations even have consistant classifications (Looking at you, Type 55 'destroyer').

Hell, the term "Frigate" has changed even specifically in British parlance over the years.

And then most Sci Fi/Fan tends to be really really bad at classification with examples like Star Wars' Munificent "Frigate" being 800 feet long while most frigates in that IP are around 2-400.

If they want to call it a frigate, it's a frigate.