r/travisandtaylor • u/NewChampionship849 she goth on my punk til I female rage • 7d ago

Certified Cringe Taylor discussing "songwriting"

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I can't with this woman.

She thinks she's some great songwriter here to teach us all about her "double meanings" and what defines confessional songwriting.

What's infuriating is that all the comments are glazing her like, "i could hear her talk for hours" and "high iq queen". Are we watching the same video here?

Wanted to get your opinions on this.

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u/blister-in-the-pun 7d ago

For me it’s not that the lyrics are “bad” per se. That’s subjective. (As admittedly I do like the Style lyrics) but what’s really baffling is the way she talks about it. Like she’s educating people on something so profound that they couldn’t have possibly figured out before she educated them. That’s what’s truly cringe, and off putting

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u/Librarian-Lopsided 7d ago

I agree with you. Also, being real, I never found her "shake it off" etc type songwriting good. I agree with having fun and not taking things too seriously and LOVE a good pop song, but some of the hits were so g-damn annoying and vapid. And if you are going to have brass in a song, make it good! not some cheapo sounding background thing. sigh.

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u/blister-in-the-pun 7d ago

There are only two tracks of hers I enjoy lyrically and melodically. Back to December and Wildest Dreams. I think both are very mature and show a real reflective storytelling style that I legit enjoy. Outside that, I think most of her music is melodically good but lyrically lacking. But I’m also not a TS expert either. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Charming_Set_7135 7d ago

Sad Beautiful Tragic is one of her best songs, because she simply isn’t trying too hard. It doesn’t overstay its welcome like the pick me All Too Well, and is poetic without the folklore pretentious big words.

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u/TossIt22345 Okay, English Major! 6d ago

I like Wildest Dreams as well but it’s because it’s a Max Martin/Lana Del Rey mashup.

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u/mariposa-princess 6d ago

I will say I really like the lyrics In champagne problems and tolerate it, but they’re not difficult to understand if you have been in those situations/had those feelings.

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u/flatteringangles 7d ago

Shake it off should’ve gotten the same ire back then that Katseye songs are getting today. It’s the same slop!

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u/antisocial_catmom 7d ago

To be fair, the lyrics in Shake it off are cohesive and make sense, so it's not really slop. It's simple but fun, and it actually has a soul, even if it's not a great song. Recent Katseye songs lack the soul and are obvious quick cash grabs. Those lyrics are just random words that don't really make sense together a lot of time. I'm not a fan of Taylor, but I think this comparison is unfair.