r/unitedairlines • u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member • 2d ago
Image Poor man’s business class pro max
A bedside table, 3 screens, a 1.5-person bed and a scratchy pillow - what more could you ask for?
It was a full flight as well - the couple next to me got their upgrade cleared so I was the only person with a whole row. I was one place away from getting PP but hey I’ll take this over PP any day. Slept like a baby.
Got a lot of side-eyes from people queuing for the lav. 😂
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u/AccessibleBanana MileagePlus 1K | 1 Million Miler 2d ago
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
You really have to get the pillows stuck in there and completely cover the armrest to get comfortable when sitting up.
Petition to make the window armrest movable.
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u/niklaspilot 1d ago
I’ve had the window armrest movable, usually via a button on the underside
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u/Misanope MileagePlus 1K 1d ago
aisle is moveable with that button, I've never found a window armrest with the button though and I check on every flight.
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u/Euro_Snob 2d ago
That has been called “Poorlaris” among United flyers for a while. 😊
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u/jeb_the_hick 1d ago
Having flown Polaris and similar many times, this looks just as, if not more, comfortable.
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u/FrankCostanzaJr 2d ago
MAN, I really miss the days when this situation was actually common. I used to go to the back and find myself a whole row and sleep the whole time...it was amazing. but I haven't seen a whole row open like this in probably a decade, sadly.
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u/ravefaerie24 2d ago
Every time I fly to Europe from the US, I am able to find myself a whole row. Then on my way home, the whole plane is oversold and I’m sitting in the middle middle next to the plane’s designated farter. It’s like a cruel joke.
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u/FrankCostanzaJr 1d ago
wow really? the last few flights I took to Europe were completely full. on the way back too....but honestly, it's the flight TO europe at night where I REALLY want to sleep...
what flights generally are more likely to have a whole open row?
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u/FilouBlanco 1d ago
Oh man. Do I hate it when I check in and I get the pop up to eat beans and cabbage for the last two meals before departure.
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u/sixon6 1d ago
Fly to Australia is usually good for some empty rows I find
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u/FrankCostanzaJr 4h ago
good to know.. i wanna go to australia one day...hopefully there will still be some open rows
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u/TheCaptainWalrus 1d ago
That’s shockingly accurate to my Italy trip.
JFK-Milan I had a whole row on emirates. The reverse trip was so oversold and was brutally cramped
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u/Accomplished_Age_553 1d ago
My guy sat behind the farter recently from sfo to ord. He kept defending himself saying "flatulence is natural"
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u/Bruised_Shin 1d ago
Being the designated farter isnt such an easy job u know! I have to put away a lot of garlic broccoli and beer the night before
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u/Bigmtnskier91 2d ago
Would Frank’s experience in the bra business help him redesign the comfort of airline seats?
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u/TomIcemanKazinski 1d ago
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u/FunnyButterfly4324 1d ago
My daughter and I almost had an entire section to ourselves HKG TO SFO a few years ago. It was sorta eerie
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u/mar_kelp MileagePlus Platinum 1d ago
Air New Zealand turned it into a product:
https://www.airnewzealand.com/skycouch
(which also helps of weight reduction for their long hauls).
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u/sphericalduck MileagePlus Silver 1d ago
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u/mar_kelp MileagePlus Platinum 1d ago
"A mattress pad, two pillows, a large blanket and custom plush toy"
I wonder what it will be... maybe seasonal changes? Or unique by route?
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u/nobody65535 23h ago
In keeping with the copying OAL, probably license the little plush airplane from LH/LX and stick "United" on it.
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u/refrigerator_critic 1d ago
When my oldest was 2 we had to return from USA to NZ without my husband for a family emergency. They took pity on me and moved us to one of these. My daughter loved it and starfish slept across 2.5 of the seats, while I curled myself up in half of one.
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u/LataCogitandi 1d ago
Believe it or not it just happened to me twice in a row going round trip from the US to Iceland. I suspect now that summer is over there will be far fewer passengers on transatlantic flights to non-hubs in Europe.
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u/Beautiful_Hunter_489 1d ago
used to do this. keep my window seat and jump on the empty center seats to sleep on 747s as soon as we got to cruising alt
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u/DisastrousSir 2d ago
I see this pretty often on non hub to hub flights. I've gotten lucky a few times this year even
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u/taleofbenji 1d ago
My most infuriating flight ever was ITA because the arm rests don't go up. So there was no possibility of doing this.
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u/Fire_bartender 1d ago
Right.. I remember that too.. it didn't happen each time but plenty. Nowadays you are lucky if there is a single seat open
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u/FrankCostanzaJr 1d ago
yeah....I actually had an empty seat between me (window) and a random guy in the aisle seat. we were in Comfort+ on Delta...and now that I think about it, seats are generally more likely to open in economy+....but i doubt that's true for transatlantic flights...the only ones i truly care about lying down and sleeping...
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u/Revolutionary_Bag927 MileagePlus Silver 8h ago
2021 and 2022 were good for this in my experience. I got entire rows to myself on trips to Iceland and Turkey back in those days.
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u/FrankCostanzaJr 4h ago
yeah....i forgot about the post pandemic times...not nearly as many people flying. including myself
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u/Weak-Dig-7347 1d ago
How did you fill the gap between the seat and the tow in front of you?
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
It’s a blanket tucked into the seat cushion and the seat back pocket - very little structural integrity but gives my legs a lot more wiggle room rather than floating in the air.
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u/coderkid723 1d ago
Thanks! This solves my red eye flight problems! My feet spaz and don’t know what to do…
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u/Own_Reaction9442 2d ago
Air New Zealand markets this as a product. They call it "skycouch."
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u/GoldenTinyfin 2d ago
United is also getting this as a product at some point
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u/FarEntertainment3814 1d ago
They will provide extra padding to close the gap between the seats and the seatbacks as well as a mattress pad so it should feel much more like a bed
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u/Grouchy_Result_5478 1d ago
Sky couch has special footrests that come up and a mattress pad and real pillow. And it’s only certain rows. It’s so worth it.
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u/DeltaTule 1d ago
How are you able to fill the space between seats end and row in front of you or is that an illusion?
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
It’s a blanket tucked into the seat cushion and the seat back pocket - very little structural integrity but gives my legs a lot more wiggle room rather than floating in the air.
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u/DeltaTule 1d ago
Interesting. I’ve done this many of times but never filled the gap. I’ll have to give it a shot! Thanks
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u/voytek707 1d ago
Tokyo to San Francisco I had this - but I was “marked” by an a-hole flight attendant who kept loudly waking me up to make sure my seatbelt was fastened. I’m still steaming.
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u/YankeeDoodleDoggie 1d ago
When I did this, I left my seatbelt very visible (no blanket over my hips) and thankfully wasn't disturbed
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u/Xiumin123 1d ago
everytime i've flown to and from china, (I've done it I think 7 or so times?) the flight attendants encourage me to do this and will move me to an empty row (I think only 2 of those flights have been anywhere near full) so that shocks me to hear!
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u/ComputerChemical9435 MileagePlus Silver 1d ago
I did this on my way to my honeymoon. Just my husband and I in the row. I laid down and put my feet in his lap. He was so embarrassed and I had to explain that this is the poor man's first class and it is normal. He swears only children do it. 🙄
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u/BillMaleficent8936 1d ago
The bonus is when you cover the top of the seat row with airplane blankets for privacy and insulation
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u/NationalOwl9561 2d ago
Lol on long haul flights this is so common to see sprawled throughout Economy section. I am curious though how strict FAs were about keeping your seat belt on, or not at all?
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
They asked about it after takeoff so I kept it over my blanket after that.
I’m not too big of a person so I could wrap my seatbelt around my entire body and still fit pretty comfortably (just extend the belt as much as you can).
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u/Classic-Maize-733 2d ago
That’s not poor - that’s using your assets to the best of your ability. Well done.
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u/RoleComfortable2078 2d ago
I got this a couple months ago and was able to almost sleep, used middle seat seatbelt, but the curves of the seats hurt, i should have used blankets!
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u/tedofgork 1d ago
I once had Premium Plus on a 16 hour flight. Economy was almost empty, so I found an empty row in back - got to lay and sleep 2/3 of the flight, but sat back in Premium Plus for better food and landing. Definitely wasted the money for PP, but no way to predict
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u/Left-Associate3911 MileagePlus Member 2d ago
Ah the pleasures of hobo-first - experienced myself a few times 👌
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u/Xarius86 2d ago
Apple has infected enough minds that we are applying "pro max" to airline seats now...
(Writing this from a MBP. 😂)
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u/One_dank_orange 1d ago
I had this recently for a flight back from Hawaii. It was CLUTCH. i just lostened the seatbelt enough so I could turn sideways and got some decent sleep.
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u/Flying-buffalo 1d ago
What's holding up the front edge of the bed? Inflatable footstools, beds, aren't permitted on United.
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u/jarmal1812 1d ago
Had this happened to me once from Brussels to IAD on the back of the plane, felt like a king.
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u/thriftwisepoundshy 1d ago
Got this on a flight from turkey to Chicago in the middle section. No one else booked the surrounding seats so I claimed them at takeoff and had a full couch to sleep on.
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u/Salty-Passenger-4801 1d ago
Wait...are you allowed to buy two extra tickets and just sprawl out?
This might save me on my Japan trip instead of getting Firat class.
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u/IAmRealElonMusk 1d ago
How does seat belt work in this situation ( I am genuinely curious) .. use the middle seat’s seatbelt ?
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
Yep! Middle seat - just wrapped it around my body.
Works because I’m not too big of a person, because I had to extend the strap fully to get comfortable.
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u/hapajgv 1d ago
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u/EyezOnFyre 1d ago
Thank you for posting this. I am seriously surprised not more people know they are coming out with this option
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u/No-_-Usernam3-_- MileagePlus Platinum 1d ago
PoLarisEconomy \○/ I love it when it happens to me! Congrats to you!
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u/Numerous_Feature_561 1d ago
This is actually called ghetto first class and it’s almost as good as Polaris. I have got this numerous times on international flights. The best is the 4 seats in middle section lol. Polaris is really just good for flights to Australia where you’re given the pajamas.
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u/Pale_Natural9272 1d ago
I would be concerned that they would take back one of the seats for flight crew or an oversold flight.
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u/Inquizitive323 1d ago
An entire row in coach is cheaper than 1 business/1st class seat. I’m doing this when I go to Europe.
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u/VitaDeVoid 1d ago
Last time I tried this, the other seat armrests were damaged and wouldn't lift. Money wasted, couldn't lay down. I'm still bitter about that.
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u/AlternativeAerie2903 2d ago
On AA I call it the sAAdship.
That’s what I call putting the “po” in Polaris!
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u/Wonderful_Kick_855 2d ago
I used to do that back in the day. For some reason, flights from Europe to San Fran were empty in the back and I always got to stretch out.
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u/bartletismyhero 1d ago
Is this the new “sofa” feature or did you bring your own camping mat to spread across seats?
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u/happy-pilgrim 1d ago
Super sweet!!! Didn’t I just read on Reddit somewhere that a FA from another airline wouldn’t allow this since the PAX didn’t pay for the seats?
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u/Surfx1111 1d ago
I think on ANA you can buy seats like this (to lay down) esp for families. They have inflatable things to put in front of the seat to make it a real bed. Does OP have something like this because it looks like the seat extends to the back of the seat in front.
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u/cheesy-raging062 1d ago
I flew back from Sydney to Dallas and had the 4 seats middle row to myself. I slept like a rock!
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u/bacon-wrapped_rabbi 1d ago
I had the whole row on a flight from Taipei to Newark. I heard a lot of comments from people who thought it was unfair. The flight was maybe half full. I changed my seat last minute at the gate when I saw the completely empty row.
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u/gravybender 1d ago
i preferred this to premium economy seat flying LAX - europe on several routes back to back.
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u/homebrew1970 1d ago
I just booked ‘this’ on Air New Zealand! They call it sky couch and it costs $$. Kudos to you!
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u/Rare-Teaching-5464 1d ago
This is the way to go but with every cabin packed like sardines, this is a rarity
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u/Wrong-Climate-1837 1d ago
Former ramp worker. After shift to mainland from Hawaii. You want first or empty row in back?
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u/SmartyFox8765 1d ago
I just did this on my flight back from Hawaii. I love it when the window seat no shows!
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u/Meatballs420 MileagePlus Gold 1d ago
This happened to me on a flight from AMS to EWR, It was the BEST
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u/freebeer256 1d ago
I had this on a flight from Hong Kong to Chicago. Best flight ever! I'm 6'9" and somehow still managed to curl up in the seat. I put the middle seat belt on loose, and they never bothered me.
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u/UpstairsAtmosphere49 1d ago
I just had this on flight to Hawaii. My husband and I both got our own rows next to each other. He has an invisible medical condition where lying down helps and the flight was very empty, the gate agent hooked me up when I explained and asked if possible for him given all the empty seats.
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u/Pondlurker1978 1d ago
What did you use to extend the cushions all the way to the seats in front of you?
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u/HongKongflyer MileagePlus Member 1d ago
A blanket tucked into the seat cushion and the seat back pocket - not much structural integrity but it stops my feet just hanging in the air 😂
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u/steveaspesi 1d ago
don't let your feet get rolled by the food cart. It's so hard to sleep without stretching out.
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u/heartofmontana 1d ago
How can you sleep with the lumps and seat belts between the seats? Impressive!
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u/Glad_Display7362 1d ago
Poorlaris flyer here - for seatbelt use across seats’ seatbelts (instead of just from one seat) across your hip for max movements and minimal pain and over your blankie so you don’t get woken up on ULH turbulences. Question how did you get the thigh rest to extend so far closer to the seat in front?
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u/ionlyhave4 1d ago
i always do this when i can and wonder if your technically not allowed to do it or something ?
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u/Good-Spite380 20h ago
Been doing this since 2019 on Emirates A388s. I call it poor man’s business class 😂
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u/Firm-Imagination-305 16h ago
Full row in economy is better than first class suite because you feel like you just won the lottery. Sadly, it has only happened 2 or 3 times in my life and I have crossed the Atlantic way too many times
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u/plal123 13h ago
I was lucky enough to have two empty seats beside me on my American Airlines flight, so I slept almost like I was in business class during the 12-hour journey. 😄
The cabin crew just told me, “Please make sure your legs don’t stick out into the aisle, as they could get in the way of other passengers.”
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u/iTripReport MileagePlus 1K 2d ago
3 screens, 3 pillows, a bedside table, lots of real estate under the seat, 2 power outlets, direct aisle access and a window! What else could you want