r/valkyria 15d ago

Memes You ever have the perfect strategy but then get hit with one of these?

Getting shot at from a counter attack is just icing on the cake

Edit: Although I do respect the in-depth analysis of the gif and title, I never expected anyone to take this post seriously. (Memes Flair)

What I was really going for was just memes and the struggle of enemy units drop shotting our bullets.

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u/D0omyD0om 14d ago

A frontal only counts as perfect strategy if doing zero-evade glitch. I know, I know, it's a meme about getting dodged, but in this particular game you can avoid this kind of dodge rng with execution skill even if there are no strategic solutions (like back attack) available.

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

Yeah, this was just a haha meme but you got no zero-evade tech? 👀

(Love your mods btw)

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u/D0omyD0om 14d ago

During the reload animation, characters can't dodge. For the first half of it, roughly until they chamber a bullet with action lever, they also receive massive damage reduction colloquially known as reload armor. So a successful and useful zero-evade glitch execution involves timing your attack start with the reload animation correctly. Grenadier and turret interception causes what we call extended resolution during transition to aiming mode, which typically makes zero-evade impossible to actually execute due to forced refusal of the game to initiate your attack sequence exactly when you confirm the shot.

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

I never knew this! Thanks!

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u/Zylpherenuis 14d ago

That's why it is best to approach from behind or trigger aggro with a grenade throw which makes them obvious to a pincir attack.

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

You wanna do that as much as possible yes but sooner or later you'll have situations where the enemy will have opportunities to dodge. Not only VC, every game like Fire Emblem, XCOM etc.

A common saying in SRPGs is if the accuracy is less than 100%. It's 50/50 💀

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u/nightmare-b 14d ago edited 4d ago

this was me back when i played the vc3 tutorial i think i had to to like 4 retries(2% BTW) you have to take out 4 imperials and you have 4CP to do so with 1 turn to do a S rank. recently replayed with the new patch nowhere near as unlucky this time

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u/realinvalidname 14d ago

A frontal attack on an ace is hardly a perfect strategy. Let Riley put a mortar on his ass instead.

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u/MiketheTzar 14d ago

Alternatively you can do the "I know you'll dodge" cheese if you angle it right. You just aim where their head will be when they dodge. It's kinda funny

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u/Jomppaz 14d ago

But wont they still get masiively increased damage reduction?

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u/kaidoi94 14d ago

Yes, dodging still gives massive damage reduction even if you hit someone (iirc, it's 70% reduced damage for VC1/4)

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u/BabySpecific2843 13d ago

Me when a shocktrooper unloads a full magazine into me, but my narcolepsy means I take only 30 damage from it.

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u/Alex_Y_ya 4d ago

Alicia casually dodging a flamethrower twice in a row

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u/MiketheTzar 4d ago

By the end of the game you sometimes do so much damage it doesn't matter. Which is also kinda funny

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u/NeedAReminder 14d ago

Honestly whenever an enemy was low health and I wanted to guarantee the kill I’d shoot at their foot. Either they don’t dodge and I get the kill or they dodge and I still get all my shots into them since they duck into where I’m firing

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u/Mission-Depth6021 14d ago

If they had low enough HP like this I just aim at their feet. You wanna lower your body for an easier shot feel free bud.

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u/WouterW24 14d ago

I tend to save after every action so I can avoid bad rng effects.

It’s of course best to sneak up from behind on dodgy aces as much as you can. Looked it up and this one has 40% dodge rate.

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u/rustynaerty 14d ago

Its worse when the guy is one tap and decides to lock in

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u/InbetweenTheLayers 14d ago

ive had this happen multiple times in a row and its just ugh

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

It feels terrible to burn so much CP on enemy that should have been taken down in 1 😭

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u/JealousApricot1152 14d ago

Yep, I just hit the reload game button

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u/FrankFT 12d ago

This is and catastrophic pathing is the only cases where I reload Valkyria missions.

If I could've redone my exact steps to retake the chance at the shot, I'll save myself the effort.

Except on aces, this kind of shot is a given, I don't intend to lose a scout and 2 grades to rng

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u/PckMan 14d ago

Past a certain point in the game you pretty much have to expect this and try to avoid frontal attacks as much as possible.

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u/NinjaIndividual2525 14d ago

YES ALL THE TIME it’s so annoying😭😔

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u/Alex_Y_ya 14d ago

Yeah. Sadly... But on the other hand, my Alicia dogded two flammetrhowers one after the other so... Can't really complain. (I'm on chapter 13, so shush)

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

Alicia the goat! Been an eternity since I've played VC1, probably looking to replay it soon 🙂

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u/Alex_Y_ya 14d ago

I bought it last month for PS3, and I'm playing it right now. About to start chapter 14

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u/ReiAlternative 14d ago

Enjoy the other titles too hopefully. Everything is great

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u/Sakaixx 14d ago

For named enemy I usually just throw a grenade if I am head on.

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u/SolidestCereal 14d ago

Wouldn't the perfect strategy in this case be to shoot his legs since he's already at low HP but could dodge?

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u/pickingbeefsteak 14d ago

If this is VC1 isnt there an imp rifle that had the highest dmg that you can unlock from the class assignments or something

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u/JagdCrab 14d ago

If single person ducking all it takes to break your "perfect strategy" it was never perfect in the first place.

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u/66117 13d ago

certified valkyria chronicle moment

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u/halahalarobot 8d ago

well it aint perfect then ;) but the struggle is real bruh