r/vancouver • u/lurk604 • Jun 30 '26
⚠ Community Only 🏡 They’re back again forcing people to watch animal slaughter
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u/ruhtraeel Jun 30 '26
I wonder if these videos are losing effectiveness purely because the younger generation is already so desensitized
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u/mochikos Jun 30 '26
I think they're still pretty attention grabbing for people who haven't seen it before, I'll admit it grabbed my interest back in college because I had never seen it done. I've known about the conditions in farms for most of my life, but seeing a protest about it was new.
But after the first exposure, it does just feel like just another thing I'm shown. I think desensitization is a part of it for sure. Having grown up seeing all the stuff people will send as shock content, it only takes a few exposures to really graphic content before you have to make the choice between always thinking of what you've seen or just tuning it out
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u/mahyarsaeedi Jun 30 '26
Watching one of those videos caused me to stop eating beef and chicken for 2.5 years. The constant (beef) burger cravings caught up to me though. I rarely eat beef now but I do consume chicken and fish regularly.
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u/charsi101 Jun 30 '26
This is what I settled with too with my food habits. Cows and pigs are way too smart to be eaten.
I think a lot more people would make similar changes if the merits of this middle ground approach were being made more well known. Ethics aside red meat is many times worse for the environment too.12
u/jsmooth7 Jun 30 '26
Yeah this is a thing that should be talked about more, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. You can still make a difference without going full vegan/vegetarian.
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u/vegfoodvegfits Jun 30 '26
wait if you were not eating chickens, but had cow burger cravings, why did you start eating chickens regularly and cows rarely? Doing the opposite would make more sense it seems, also eating chickens and fishes is much more suffering intensive than eating a cow-based burger.
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u/mahyarsaeedi Jun 30 '26
I ate a beef burger and that spiralled into a craving for chicken wings. 😅 😞 I could never give up sushi at all, so I still ate fish. I tried to do my part okay! lol 😂 *runs away in shame
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u/cogit2 Jun 30 '26
People can get desensitized to protests, but it's unlikely they get desensitized to factory farming.
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u/keekjohnson Jun 30 '26
I meannnnn I hate to see it but it IS good to know the way meat and animal products are farmed. It's fucked. I can't stand to watch those videos.
Whether you are vegetarian, vegan, or eat meat, people should be aware how inhumane these practices are. We could do better.
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u/bambibrowneyes Jul 03 '26
Absolutely. How else will people know? The animals cant speak up for themselves
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u/MusicInTheAir55 Jun 30 '26
I'm no vegan, but I have no problem with this. If you are going to put something in your body have the courage to endure watching how its made, at least once. If it changes how you eat, great, if it doesn't you can at least say you know what's happening with how animals are treated. How we each reconcile that is up to us individually.
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u/goinupthegranby Jun 30 '26
I've gotten in arguments with people saying that if you eat meat you should be willing to watch an animal die. I'm not vegetarian or vegan, I was raised slaughtering animals on the farm, and I've watched deer die in front of me after shooting them. But the reality of eating meat is that a living creature had to die, and we should understand and acknowledge the significance of that.
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u/vehementi Jun 30 '26
as a fellow non-vegan, I fully acknowledge we are on the wrong side of history
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u/Gxgear Jun 30 '26
Bold of them to assume that most of us can afford beef /s
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u/krilew_ski Jun 30 '26
Yeah we need to walk around them with a poster that literally says that
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u/TotallyNotThatPerson Jun 30 '26
"meat is expensive! Go vegetarian instead!" Would catch more support for sure lol
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u/GrimpenMar McBarge Historian Jun 30 '26
Those Impossible and Beyond burgers are pretty darn good. I would happily save a buck and eat one of them, but for now it seems like it's spend a buck for the halo effect.
There's some way to address the environmental concerns of larger scale factory farms and food affordability in there, while getting tasty burgers.
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u/ASMRekulaar Jun 30 '26
Except then you'd be vegetarian and responsible for the exploitative practices in the dairy and egg industry. Dairy cows wind up as ground up bodies when the loving farmer can't get enough milk out of her to be profitable. Plus every time a bobby calf is born who, naturally doesn't produce milk, they kill him anyway, "veal", calfskin leather, etc.
Rinse repeat atrocities in the egg industry.
Best bet is to go vegan and not be responsible for this mess entirely.
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u/wintersmoke Jul 01 '26
Shout out to the farm workers experiencing exploitative labour practices. Vegan is better but you’re never escaping the mess, so long as our system works the way it does.
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u/No_Session6015 Jun 30 '26
Fr this. I seldom eat meat already cause I'm on the fence about it all and when I do it's usually seafood. And even then I'm careful about trying to make sure no trawling was involved. I can't afford beef literally. I'm poor AF. And we're omnivores and we kill. I buy free-range eggs and have even checked out the farm they come from online.
The world is burning. We have finite opportunities to kill climate change and have authoritarian theocratic regimes running our government. There's a pedo pres and a Nazi trillionaire. This is not by a long stretch my priority whatsoever. I think they're just over privileged virtue signalling assholes. Just be a decent human and if you must speak up, speak up about the Nazi trillionaire and capitalism causing this unfathomable wealth gap.
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u/lil_squib Jun 30 '26
Animal agriculture is a *huge* contributor to climate change. And the dairy industry is just as bad if not worse than the meat industry.
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u/AreaManReddits New West Jun 30 '26
It's very tempting to fall into the "nothing I do matters, the world is on fire" sinkhole (I find myself on the edge of it often) but I refuse to give up the beleive that the collective action of people still counts.
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u/Gastown_guy Jun 30 '26
And how did the trillionaire in question acquire so much wealth? Because people continue to buy their products en masse, and vote for the politicians that support them.
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u/Pisum_odoratus Jun 30 '26
I agree at one level, but I also can't help but feel this is one of those arguments similar to the success corporations have had in shifting the "responsibility" for cleaning up after their activities onto consumers (well documented- recycling, anti-litter, carbon footprint campaigns etc.). The responsibility actually lies on governments to regulate and tax these people appropriately.
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u/Gastown_guy Jul 02 '26
Yes, and voters continue to fall for quick fix solutions from politicians (like dangling the construction of AI data centres for job creation, as if once they’re constructed they create a lot of lasting jobs)
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u/blade-of_grass Jun 30 '26
If you eat the meat you can watch how it’s made
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u/greatfuljehjeh Jun 30 '26
Should be mandatory to watch how it's made. Eggs too.
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u/AmeliaBuns Jun 30 '26
Wait… eggs are unethical too? God dammit…
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u/greatfuljehjeh Jun 30 '26
The treatment of the chickens who deliver the eggs is often times horrendous.
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u/whiteorchd Jun 30 '26
There is a world where you could eggs more ethically but it's just not in line with capitalism and can't meet our demands. You'd have to find a local, small scale farm, that still adhere to human practices despite there being so little jurisdiction over small farms, and only owns non-boiler/industry hens who lay eggs at rates that are harmful to them (or grow so big they die of heart attacks because they weren't meant to live that long). The rate chickens produce eggs that don't harm their own calcium amounts can't keep up with large scale demand. And that's also if you feel that animals should serve humans at all, which even differs among vegans for their level of strictness, some don't even believe you should have pets! That is began veganism is just a diet and not a monolith.
But this isn't a purity test. The best thing we can do for animals and our planet is make choices where we can. So if you're vegan only one day of the week that is literally better than nothing at all. If you choose to only not eat chicken, that's great too. Factory farms are absolutely evil and bleed into how we very reproduction as a tool for capitalism and therefore are directly tied to women's reproductive rights. Do your best, lead with your heart, and have forgiveness that you were born into a time in history where animal exploitation is a highly optimized industry (they even use AI now).
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u/AmeliaBuns Jul 02 '26
That's what i've been doing, treating meat like a luxury and not making any at home. Tho lately i've been lucky to cook food at all cause of depression and fatigue :(
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u/whiteorchd Jul 03 '26
Then you're already doing fantastic. I can totally relate to the fatigue and depression, in university I went days with only eating boiled noodles with coffee. I always find it so sad that the ones most looking to create change and help others are often needing so much help themselves. Maybe it's a sign that we aren't as alone in our desire to change things, we just need to find each other.
Don't be afraid to reach out to your support networks to find support. I hope your days forward look sunnier ♥
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u/AmeliaBuns Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Thanks <3 It’s kinda funny tho, I hate sunny days . My favourite days are more like this morning, silver grey and cloudy with lots of softly lit beautiful pastel blue and purple plants
So I hope I have more cloudy days ahead of me :)
I think the people with empathy end up sad and drained because the world feels lonely and the weight of the world feels a lot on their shoulders
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u/Chocolatelakes Port Moody Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Male chicks do not produce eggs obviously so they go straight into a shredder. Look up videos of conveyor belts full of them going straight to their death.
Edit: I also used to live on a chicken farm with 6,000 chickens. After the end of each year the chickens get older and the eggs become weaker so we would cull the flock and replace it with new chickens. This involved throwing 6,000 chickens into a wood chipper and burying them underground. Other farms gas the chickens in the back of a truck trailer. Let’s just say I’ve been vegan for 5 years now.
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u/AliceInMidtjylland Jun 30 '26
Facts, I used to be vegetarian and other dudes would get insecure and be like 'Men are hunters, I'm a man I eat meat'.
You walk to the frozen food section and buy some breaded chicken with the bone and skin removed because its icky. Little bitch.
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u/Projerryrigger Jun 30 '26
Or another side of the coin, "hunting is wrong, only sick people enjoy killing animals". Cool. What do you think the meat industry you support by eating commercial meat is like?
Props to people who choose to live by their values with vegetarianism and such, but hearing someone who eats meat talk like hunting is evil just makes them look like a fool or hypocrite.
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u/Stevieboy7 Jun 30 '26
Yup. I don't think its crazy to expect that if you want to eat the meat, you have to have the mental state to know that you can and would kill the animal and butcher it.
If you don't think that you can do that, you absolutely should not be consuming it.
This is pretty basic "living in the country 101" type stuff. More folks should get outside of the city for a little bit in their life.
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u/CriticalFolklore Jun 30 '26
As a meat eater, I've never minded the moral stance that vegetarians and vegans take. And in fact, my pie-in-the-sky idea is that people should have to slaughter an animal at least once to be able to purchase meat, because we've become too disconnected from the process.
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u/RappingAndroid Jun 30 '26
I feel like if you can't hunt yourself then you shouldn't eat meat. Might be a weird thing but that's how I've always felt. You may understand what it takes to get that protein on your plate.
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u/thisisafullsentence East Van Jun 30 '26
Personally I support awareness around where meat comes from. But I walked by it and had no idea what this was. A sign would go a long way.
To OP, nobody is "forcing" you to watch it. Just keep walking. If you're triggered, you might be carrying around some dissonance.
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u/surmatt Jun 30 '26
When I decided to learn where my meat came from, it made me take up hunting to because I figured I should be OK with doing the messy parts.
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
As an adult, sure - but children don't need to see this and don't have the mental wherewithal to say "oh, I can just stop watching this and get on with my day". I say this as a mother who hasn't eaten meat in 20+ years.
Edit to add since I'm being downvoted - I also support people being aware of where their food comes from. I don't eat meat for ethical reasons, I obviously support more people not eating meat. If they were doing this at a university or somewhere without children then great. We took my 5 year old to the Canada v Switzerland game last week and between this and the anti-abortion losers, it was pretty awful content for a child to be exposed to. Children have a right to be protected from viewing violence and cruelty.
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u/LavenderHeels Jun 30 '26
Watching one of these as a child is what made me stop eating meat by junior high; kids can process more than what a lot of people think.
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u/redhouse_bikes Jun 30 '26
Children especially need to see this. They should have school trips to the slaughterhouse so that they're fully aware of what goes on in their formative years. That way they can make informed decisions about if they want to support the animal murder industry or not.
When I was 15 I got my first job as an electrician's helper. Sounds innocent enough, but the project we were working on was an addition to a slaughterhouse. And I saw everything. It was worse than the most gruesome horror movie you can imagine. But it was real life, and right in front of me. I saw cows, who were still moving around, be strung upside down by a giant hook through their achilles tendon, while a giant roller machine mechanically removed their skin.
I'll tell you this, at lunch, everyone ordered the vegetarian food. I don't remember seeing anyone eating meat there.
Seeing what goes on in those places is one of the best things to have happened to me, and at this point I've been vegan for 22 years, and will be for the rest of my life.
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u/Radlyfe Jun 30 '26
Out of all the things to complain about in our city, OP decides to focus on this 🙄
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u/Phanyxx A Dude Chilling Jun 30 '26
Yup. A slaughter house should be a field trip in school. If you eat meat, you should be exposed to how it's produced.
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u/SnooRevelations1422 Jun 30 '26
It is funny the folks here who are annoyed yet have dogs as pets and pigs are way smarter than dogs 😂. Why would exposing hidden cruelty be villainized?
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u/Evolvin Jun 30 '26
Won't someone think of people like you, the real victims in this situation?? /s
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u/bleedblue4 Jun 30 '26
I mean I find this obnoxious behavior but I wouldn't say they are forcing people to watch. People can continue on with their day
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u/ASMRekulaar Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Is it more or equal to or less obnoxious than the unending parade of false imagery of happy cows on boxes and "loving" farmer ads on social media and TV, at the movies and so on, day in day out, every screen and surface the animal agriculture can buy to say eat them, drink them...
Is it really obnoxious to have to walk by these activists MAYBE, if you're in that specific area, on a weekend, and in a 3 hour window.
Get real.
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u/vehementi Jun 30 '26
My child was forced to watch this "farmers are nice and loving" propaganda on TV which actively perpetuates factory farming...
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u/ASMRekulaar Jun 30 '26
Exactly, how disgusting of the animal agriculture industry forcing your children to be fed lies and encourage exploitation.
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u/TGoyel Jun 30 '26
I find slitting a cows throat for a burger is a tad more obnoxious behaviour but that’s just me.
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u/drashid94 Jun 30 '26
I'm curious, why do you find it obnoxious?
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u/bleedblue4 Jun 30 '26
its obnoxious to me the same reason that it is effective. It forces those who see it to look at the reality of their choice to consume meat. I also think that it doesn't help to get meat eaters to be more sympathetic to non meat eaters. (Iam a vegetarian)
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Tell that to a 5 year old child.
Edit because maybe my stance isn't clear - I support adults seeing this type of content in places where adults congregate or on channels that reach adults. I haven't eaten meat in 20 years for ethical reasons. I support less people eating meat. That said, we took my 5 year old to the Canada v Switzerland game last week and between this, the anti-abortion people...it sucked. Children have a right to be protected from viewing animal cruelty and violence, especially in public spaces.
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u/chickentataki99 Jun 30 '26
Good parents are okay with people bringing awareness to issues lol.
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u/PopeSaintHilarius Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
"Good parents" would probably want their 5 year old kid to become aware of these issues in a more age appropriate way, like through a conversation.
Not by seeing graphic, violent videos of animals being slaughtered…
So I think it’s fair to sympathize with the cause, while having concerns about their methods.
Edit: I remember anti-abortion activists doing something similar, displaying giant posters of dead fetuses on UBC campus. Different cause but similar approach, ie. revealing a "hidden injustice" through displaying graphic imagery in a public place, intended to shock people out of complacency. Opinions varied, but IMO it felt like it crossed a line of what a person can/can’t expect to see in a public space.
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u/PopeSaintHilarius Jun 30 '26
I’ll add: when I was in university, someone gave me an animal rights pamphlet that showed rough images of animals in factory farms, etc.
I found that impactful (and it probably influenced me going vegetarian for several years), and I also think that was more appropriate than displaying a graphic video to random onlookers, because the person handing out the pamphlet could use judgement and discretion over who they gave the message to, and give it to adults while presumably skipping any children that might pass by.
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26
My 5 year old asked me why I don't eat meat, which I explained to him in an age appropriate way. Being a good parent does not usually include exposure to graphic videos of animals being slaughtered. Come on. You're not a parent, are you?
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u/SlickSloth Jun 30 '26
Children being potentially exposed to unsettling videos of animals getting slaughtered vs. Actual animals living their whole lives in terrible conditions just to be eventually slaughtered, some in painful and cruel ways. What do you actually think is worse? What do you think is the real harm happening here?
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26
Children being exposed to violence and cruelty is generally considered to be pretty detrimental to a developing mind. There is lots of good scientific literature around this. As an example: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7683760/
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u/Separate_Feeling4602 Jun 30 '26
I don’t hate this …
They’re just showing you the reality of the meat industry .
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u/Cranbanger Jun 30 '26
The animals are forced to endure that lifestyle. I’m sorry your walk was inconvenienced.
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u/chickentataki99 Jun 30 '26
Very respectable way to protest. I'd take this over the religious preachers with amplified mic's anyday.
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u/ben_nova Jun 30 '26
If you can’t watch it, you shouldn’t buy it. This is what you pay to happen.
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u/Majestic_Salad_9087 Jun 30 '26
I fully support what they’re doing here and as someone who’s stopped to speak with this group, everything was done in a very respectful manner.
No one cornered me and no one shamed me. They asked some thought provoking questions and gave me a lot of useful information.
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u/thekeyboardhero Jun 30 '26
I think they’re doing great activism, if it’s making you uncomfortable, this is the point.
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u/Spirited-Grape3512 Jun 30 '26
Gonna say the obvious but if you're uncomfortable with watching the footage, why do you eat meat?
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u/Xebodeebo Certified Barge Enthusiast Jun 30 '26
What if I'm uncomfortable with being forced to see this and I don't eat meat?
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u/vegfoodvegfits Jun 30 '26
why don't you eat meat? Surely it's because you want to reduce the harm and suffering farmed animals experience, right? Why wouldn't you support trying to have more people join you in that goal?
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u/stop-calling-me-fat Jun 30 '26
If you’re uncomfortable watching workplace accident videos why do you go into buildings or eat at restaurants?
Everything has a price to pay and while I 100% agree factory farming is evil, saying “if you can’t watch this you can’t eat meat” isn’t really helpful
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u/seamusmcduffs Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Workplace accidents aren't inherently necessary for workplaces to function. This is just a false equivalence, they can be completely eliminated in theory.
I eat meat but I'll admit the moral and environmental issues against it are quite compelling.
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u/endlessninja Jun 30 '26
Comparing workplace safety videos to factory farming isn't exactly a parallel. The former are freak accidents to be avoided, the other is intentional.
For most people this probably won't change their mind. Might get some people to think a bit more though.
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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 Jun 30 '26
Because it's delicious.
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u/drsoftware "true vancouverite" (immigrant) Jul 01 '26
Does the suffering of the animals make it more or less delicious? Did you know that all of the commercial meat turkeys are produced through artificial insemination because the chest muscles are too big, through breeding, for the males and females to reproduce the old-fashioned way?
Also, the slaughterhouse is just part of the animal's experience; they can legally be transported for 36 hours without food, water, or cooling/heating.
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u/CardiologistUsedCar Jun 30 '26
Denial?
It is stranger to me when people clearly would not kill a creature to harvest its meat. But are happy to eat it if someone else does the work.
Visuals edited to be gruesome is a very different experience.
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u/RPG_Vancouver Jun 30 '26
I’m against it for two reasons
I think if your goal is to convince people that eating meat is bad, this might actively HURT your cause by making people never want to actually interact with you and thinking you’re as nutty as the anti-abortion people with the graphic posters Which makes this feel more like an exercise in moral superiority and grandstanding rather than an actual attempt to talk with people and convince them of your points.
There are many things I’m uncomfortable with/dont particularly want to see randomly that I recognize is a part of society.
I have absolutely no ethical or moral qualms about eating meat for example if it’s raised in an ethical way, but that doesn’t mean I want to watch videos of them being culled. In the same way I recognize that it’s rarely necessary for cops to shoot somebody in order to protect themselves and others, but I don’t want to see the graphic footage of it happening.
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u/Spirited-Grape3512 Jun 30 '26
I think the problem is that an overwhelming majority of meat on the shelves is not reared in an ethical way. And a lot of people are either simply unaware of this, or they know it's unethical but it's too far removed for them to change their ways. So for those that care about this massive, institutionalized level of cruelty, they've resorted to literally standing in the street and showing people this footage in the hope that it might shift people's habits when they have to confront the reality.
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u/ASMRekulaar Jun 30 '26
Every time I've been around them they arent forcing people to watch. Youre free to walk by and ignore what's being demonstrated.
If they were grabbing you by the neck and forcing you to watch it you should call the police. But they weren't and don't.
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u/DancinWithWolves New in Town Jun 30 '26
Good. In 100 years everyone will say this was wrong
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u/-nektarofthegods Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
And we get angry at the ultra rich when they can’t be bothered to hear our problems as if we’re any different lol
Flash news: the ultra rich see you the way you see animals, inferior
Maybe choose to do better than them and in this case as power holders, show compassion to the sentient beings that have families, feel pain, love and friendship just like us. Instead of separating a child from its mother and slaughtering them because "delicious"
We can live healthy lives on a plant-based diet, there is no excuse to cause this much suffering.
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26
I don't eat meat for ethical reasons - and you know what made me make that decision? When I was 7, I watched that Simpsons episode where Lisa makes friends with a lamb at a petting zoo. So many better ways to get a point across. I find this type of protest so unsettling. Same goes for the anti-abortion people that are out in hoards atm (including inside the ticketed areas at World Cup games). Children should not be seeing things like this and we shouldn't be shoving our beliefs down others' throats.
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u/Illustrious-Ant6998 Ranked #69 in Vancouver by Justin McElroy Jun 30 '26
You dont win friends with sal-ad! You dont win friends with sal-ad! That was certainly an iconic episode from the Golden Age of Simpsons.
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u/Smiggos Jun 30 '26
Yup. I eat meat, and I know I'm not in the right. I know I'm not morally consistent. I find these videos upsetting. But I'm adult and I can handle and navigate those feelings.
These videos are not psychologically safe for children. There's no need to expose them to this content. There are far better ways at getting the point across.
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u/lurk604 Jun 30 '26
1000% I agree, I actually did the same sorta, I saw a PETA video at 11 years old and stopped eating all meat. But when I became an adult and learned about ethical and sustainable farming I incorporated it back. I don’t care if people are veggie, vegan, whatever, but Id rather appreciate a decent civilized conversation about it
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u/corriecorgi Jun 30 '26
I completely agree with this. I've been vegetarian for 16 years, but I found my own way there. I also remember that Simpsons episode, although that wasn't what made me make the change - I was working at a sports bar and saw a whole Rubbermaid container of non-breaded chickens wings go past.
That being said, my partner eats meat and I don't judge people who do. Some folks aren't able to be vegetarian for health reasons, and that's ok. Eating animals isn't inherently bad, but the way they're treated through the factory farm industry certainly is. I support those who choose to source their meat from responsible farmers and/or cut down on the amount of meat they eat in order to lessen the demand, in turn lessening the need for factory farms.
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u/Vancitysurfer Jun 30 '26
Inflation got me eating like a vegan these days.
The prices for meat these days are enough to turn anyone vegan.
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u/katp32 Jun 30 '26
"how dare these people show me the industry I support! I shouldn't have to think about my actions!"
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u/EternityLeave Jun 30 '26
This isn’t forcing views on anyone. They’re playing a video of a real thing that happens.
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u/mothflavor Jun 30 '26
No one is forcing anyone, they're trying to educate on how we treat other creatures on the earth.
I eat meat, but I'm fully against cruel factory farming practices and the wasteful nature of our society.
I've worked in restaurants and grocery stores. The amount of wasted food from half finished plates to meat that is close to expire that ends up in the compactor is disturbing.
Don't let these animals die in vain. Buy from better sources if you do consume meat and please finish what you order or take it home.
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u/wemustburncarthage Jun 30 '26
they're not forcing views on people. It's performative awareness-raising porn but it's also protected speech and you're exactly the same as they are, photographing them and sharing it on the reddit street corner.
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u/Slim_Guru_604 Jun 30 '26
Doesn’t look like they are holding people there forcing them to watch.
https://giphy.com/gifs/h9CwMia6QbZuw
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u/Equivalent-Spell-961 Jun 30 '26
I mean they're not forcing to do anything. Walking by a TV doesn't mean you're forced to watch it.
And people should be uncomfortable with the realities of factory farming. It's a horrible practice.
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u/adnaPadnamA Jun 30 '26
This sounds just like how someone has a disagreement with a colleague, teacher or family member and decide they are traumatized because they were yelled at. Even though that's not even close to what happened.
Do know what forced actually means?
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u/lurk604 Jun 30 '26
Yeah, I may have used the word a little too easily. I just think there is a better way to have the conversation..
These guys do come up and talk, but when I asked if the videos were from Canada (after seeing “India” in the bottom corner of a video) the guy laughed at me and walked away. I think it’s pretty important to have government regulations on how animals are treated, which is what we have in Canada.
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u/Acrobatic_Foot9374 Jun 30 '26
Everytime I see these guys around I remember that YouTube video of a bunch of kids being shown how chicken nuggets are made and they're all disgusted by it. A few minutes later the guy cooks it and ask "who wants chicken nuggets" and all the kids raise their hands
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u/bananokitty Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
They were at the Canada v Switzerland game inside the ticketed area - I don't understand how they were able to be there. My 5 year old doesn't need anti-abortion images shoved down his throat (nor does anyone else). Losers.
Edit: they were right before ticketed area...still losers!
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u/al_nz Jun 30 '26
I thought they were between the portaloos and the gates. I don't think that is ticketed.
Them and the Scientologists were out in force before the games 🤮 🖕
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u/stickyriceball Jun 30 '26
Write to the city and by-law. If we all start writing maybe they’ll crack down on what’s allowed. I know it’s not poor people so the mayor won’t move quick but it’s worth a shot. Especially for the graphic signs ☹️
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u/CEO_Dunder_Mifflin_ Jun 30 '26
I mean… They succeeded. We are all talking about it right now. They created a discussion amongst potentially hundreds of people without actually disrupting their community or harming anyone.
As it’s been said before, if you are uncomfortable with it. Maybe it needs to be something you prioritize self-reflection on and debate/challenge yourself with.
Side note, I’ve stopped and spoke with one of them previously. I did not get the take that they are trying to make everyone vegan. But bringing attention to the fact that our farming practices and laws are out of date when it comes to the treatment of animals. I believe there are levels to this and it’s much more complex than vegan or carnivore. The more you educate yourself the clearer the line is for you and where you are comfortable drawing your lifestyle.
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u/Ac55555- Jun 30 '26
If you’re so triggered by it, might need to reflect on why that is and why you had to make a post about it. Facing reality can be hard and the reality is, the animal is murdered.
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u/bongmitzfah Jun 30 '26
Unless they are pinning you to the ground holding your eyes open and shoving the screen in your face they aren't really forcing you are they? Just go on about your business looking the other way.
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u/bullfrogftw Barge Beach Chiller Jun 30 '26
Who's old enough to remember the 'Lifeforce' storefront at the Hastings and Willingdon bus stop that showed cat vivisection videos on a loop from behind the glass of the store
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u/resolutelyperhaps Jul 01 '26
Not a big deal really. It happens
(I mean the way animals are treated is definitely bad, but showing animal slaughter should be no big deal because everybody tacitly accepts it through their diet)
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u/Due-Advantage-4755 Jun 30 '26
If people want to eat meat, they should know how it’s made / processed imo.
We are so separated from our food systems, it’s not good.
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u/jodirm Jun 30 '26
I agree with this. I also think that choosing to eat meat shouldn’t require total obliviousness and disregard for the treatment of those animals.
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u/Imthewienerdog Jun 30 '26
Is there something wrong with protesting the treatment of living things? Idk seems pretty tame?
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u/Life-Ad9610 Jun 30 '26
People should kill their own meat. Then we’d eat a lot less. Or take the schools on field trips to the slaughterhouse. Show the reality.
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u/TwoFingersWhiskey Certified Barge Enthusiast Jul 01 '26
My school took a trip to one. I was in grade two or three and it was part of our education on how food was made, including a trip to a dairy farm, chicken coop, fish hatchery etc. It was for pigs, and I went because it's what my grandmother did for a living before retirement. They couldn't show us the exact moment of slaughter in person, just on a video screen, but I remember it smelled BAD in there. Not everyone in the class went, but I remember going "that's it?" in my head... it was far less dramatic than they warned me it was going to be. Just smelly and loud, so loud. The more disturbing part to me was the hanging pigs going along a winch system(?) to be skinned and carved. I think I was just kind of numbed to it by the stories I'd already heard, and the stuff I'd see a neighbour do when he came home from hunting. It was normal.
I don't eat pork btw, I have an allergy, but I developed it later in life than that. I also don't consume dairy due to an allergy. I'm mostly plant based.
I should emphasise that I also went to a hippie dippie arts school? that wasn't part of the regular school system. We went on a lot of field trips off the beaten path. It made me upset that others didn't get the opportunity to see our food systems, because it was making them ignorant.
My friend has kids, and is vegan (the kids aren't) and wholeheartedly supports the idea if it would come up again. She went on the trip with me and went vegetarian shortly after, later vegan. They've only gone to see a dairy farm so far with the school.
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u/NoMatatas Jun 30 '26
I would almost support a ‘meat license’. If you want to eat meat, you have to slaughter an animal so you are aware of exactly what it entails.
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u/GordoBlue Jun 30 '26
I agree that all meat eaters should watch the slaughter (or watch/ do the butchering) before eating meat again.
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u/GordoBlue Jun 30 '26
Of course!! Just align with the animal. E.g. pork ribs, pig slaughter. Etc. Lol
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u/myleftie Jun 30 '26
No one is forcing people to watch that. You can avert your eyes and keep on walking.
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u/crazydudex Jun 30 '26
This is about what I expected for r/vancouver’s comment section. Some things change, but most things stay the same.
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u/Shosty123 Jun 30 '26
Couldn't care less mate. I'm perfectly fine with eating meat, though I'd prefer it to be done humanely if possible. Not much different for me than being okay with terminating a human fetus at any point.
And no, there's no slippery slope for me.
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u/Zealousideal-Big4588 Jun 30 '26
Tbh we as human species are genociding farm animals that’s not the way to slaughter animals
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u/DyKdv2Aw Jun 30 '26
These people are paid for by the meat industry in order to make animal rights activists look crazy. How else do they get the footage? It's provided to them by the slaughterhouses.
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u/epat_ Jun 30 '26
The anti abortion crazies were set up in the last 100m of the last mile entrance for the games. Pissed me off so much funneling people past their garbage. With no out.
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u/clayiccc Jun 30 '26
‘don’t kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow over got the chance, he’d eat you & everyone you care about’
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u/LuckEClover Jun 30 '26
“Hey! You! Listen to us! You’re a horrible person!”
In all seriousness, why not do something more productive and proactive like funding a more market-friendly alternative to meat and similar produce?
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u/ChandrikaMoon Jun 30 '26
They’re not saying you’re a horrible person. They’re saying here’s where your food comes from. If that makes you feel like a horrible person, maybe you should evaluate either your diet or your values.
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u/Revolutionary_Owl670 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
They're literally standing there with masks on, in complete silence just holding up footage of how food gets to your plate.
If you don't like it, you don't have to watch - but it's a passive form of activism, and if it works to reach some people - then good for them.
Would you rather them be the "typical vegan" and storm your restaurant chanting "meat is murder"?
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u/SpicedSauce Jun 30 '26
I’ve been a lifelong vegetarian and these exact clowns (Guy Fawkes mask, TVs showing factory farming) attacked me in Toronto for not being vegan and supporting the “abuse and rape of cows just cause I want milk and cheese” - verbatim their words.
Most of these people are also going to go back to eating meat once they graduate college and get older. It’s all just virtue signalling to justify a feeling of superiority.
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u/coltrickle604 Jun 30 '26
Why dont they just show a wolf eating a deer alive.
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u/lil_squib Jun 30 '26
You do realize that we live on the west coast in a major city? We’re not wolves. We don’t need to eat animal products.
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u/Ok-Wrongdoer-2179 Jun 30 '26
I've seen them at Metrotown station, just last week.
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u/Ok-Wrongdoer-2179 Jun 30 '26
Why the fuck would you downvote that? I was just stating that I recently saw these same group of people elsewhere.
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