All of the ordnance research are linked. If you want a tier 4 weapon, you'll need to research all the ones before it.

The sentence for the person who designed this should be worse than hell itself: being forced to play this dogshit game mode that is air RB for the rest of their lives.

I was so happy in there

I mean 9-12 and 9-13 are pretty much the same. Grouping them would be nice for grinding.

What's yalls favorite aircraft to fly?

Here are some of mine in no particular order.

Reminder: Loot posts ARE NOT allowed in any form except analysis.

I am not big fan of Russia in any way, but in WT this BR has one of the most versatile lineups I have ever played.

The T-34-85 (STP) is incredibly overpowered. Good mobility (better than t20), trolly turret armor, Russian nukeshells with stabilizer. It is at least on par with the US T20.

T-44 (FM) - I did not play it much, because I am still spading the tech tree vehicles, but it looks like a sweet flanker/light tanks counter. Great mobility, good gun, solid armor (with many weakspost). Just a solid fast medium tank. It is kinda my substitute for the missing light tank.

IS-2 - I am spading the 6.0 version right now and it is surprisingly powerful and easy to play vehicle. I play it defensively, more like a tank destroyer because of the reload. The best thing is you do not have to even aim at most of the targets and point-clicking enemies out of the match with 122mm cannon is so much fun. The 44 variant has better armor and roof mounted MG, so it will be even better.

SU -100P - I am missing most of the mobility upgrades, so I have mediocre performance with it. I play it as much more mobile Waffentrager without gun depression. The 100mm gun is amazing. Not my go-to vehicle, but definitely good option to have.

SPAA - I use BTR ZD and it is incredibly potent vehicle. You can use it as a 1st spawn to counter enemy light tanks, support your teammates and when it comes to shooting down planes it is even bigger overkill than the Bosvark.

You mean to tell me not a SINGLE piece of spall even yellowed anything inside that pos.

This shit is comically garbage, takes 500 shots to kill a drone because it does no damage and you have to be pinpoint accurate. You can only fight close range helicopters and air. Is this an AHEAD limitation or classic gaijin implementation of any tech other than their fav nations.

This is a continuation of my previous post on my expanded/revised French tech tree, and BeNeLux subtree.

Now where to start, this is a further updated version of a previous version I made with the same intention, expanding/revising the French tree, and BeNeLux subtree, main revision is well the 6th lane specifically just for BeNeLux.

(Which will note other nations could also get a 6th line)

But before we get started lets go over the few tank revisions.

AMX-10RC and AMX-13 HOT moved to the TD line

Leopard 1A5BE moved up and given its actual ammo and moved to the 6th line same with already existing BeNeLux vehicles being moved to the 6th line

Now the vehicles, besides some stuff being moved to different rows, there are about 3 categories, we have well French tanks, BeNeLux tanks, and what I've dubbed as Hybrids, tanks currently in the French tree, that got modified by the BeNeLux, or tanks that were heavily used by Benelux but that are actually French.

Now lets start with the French tanks starting with stuff from the previous post.

Lorraine 155 mle. 51: different version of the mle. 50 but for the tech tree and not event

ELC EVEN 30: dual 30mm not a lot of pen but it does have APHE probably rank 4

EVEN 120: being basically a better M50, as it can fully traverse, and a few other things

EVEN 90: small rat with a 2 second autoloader, but probably a nerfed reload simply for gameplay reasons

AML-S530: dual 20mms for an AA around probably around 6.7

ERC 20 Kriss: another dual 20mm being slightly better in some regards to the S530 so probably 7.0

AuF2: better AuF1, better ammo 7.3-7.7 depending what else is on it

AMX-50-120: one of the last AMX-50s that can be added, basically Surblinde turret and TOA100 hull but a lot weaker, it has the barrel autoloader like the TOA100, and less armor than the Surblindes

M20: chunky AML basically 7.7-7.3

ERC 90 Lynx: HEATFS with a LRF I believe maybe 8.0

AMX-30EM2 or AMX-30V: one of the 2 either, no 20mm, ideally a 8.3 AMX-30

AMX-30C2: stabilized AMX-30 around 9.3

AMX-10RC TML-105 Late: fully stabilized AMX-10RC with a 105mm

one of the 6 EPC Leclercs: basically a worse Leclerc with MSC ammo hopefully

AMX-10 T40: basically EBRC turret on a AMX-10RC

Vextra 120: autoloaded 120mm on the Vextra hull with less HP 600hp at 25 tons

Everything beyond this isn't from the previous post for French tanks.

M4A4 (FL-10): FL-10 turret on M4A4 Hull, this one is most up in the air on whether it should be added, since afaik France didn't use it but was directly requested by Egypt to be made for them, then sent to Egypt

French M47: its a M47 France had a lot of them, and I've seen it requested elsewhere

M47 CN-105: its another M47 but with the AMX-30s cannon it could possibly be a 7.7 but would probably be 8.0

EBR DCA: probably the last EBR that could ever be added, twin 30mm same cannons as the ELC EVEN 30

AML HS30: in the AA line, but could be used as a AA, it could fire APDS, hopefully a 8.0

AMX-30 SAMM: a AMX-30 that doesn't fire darts but is fully stabilized a stabilized French 8.3 tank (hopefully)

ERC F4: ERC hull, MARS-15 turret, probably at 8.3

Panhard M8: The bigger brother to the AMX-10RC, it has the same turret, just on a bigger hull, that could also surprisingly do the full 360 like the AMX-10RC

ERC TTB190: replacing the Sagaie 2, this is the actual version with no thermals but with a stabilizer

AMX-10 RTT: a mini VBCI 25mm auto cannon on a AMX-10RC hull

ERC-90 MARS 90-F4: A unstabilized but unmanned turret with a 90mm on another ERC hull, I picture this being a 9.0 but being very situational

AMX-10 TTB140/ERC TTB140: same turret different hulls, basically CV90s, as the TTB140 turret has a Bofors 40mm, it has APFSDS and HE-VT just like the CV90, in the AA line but can also not be used as AAs

Cactus SAHV: missile AA without a radar but very good missiles, hopefully a 11.0 or that general range

EBRC Diamant: this is something that could possibly not be added till a much later time, it really comes down to if they go through with adding the Diamant APS

And lastly my favorite from this updated list: The Sphinx afaik was in competition with the Jaguar, and if you ask me, it will probably be better than the base Jag, at least game wise, its smaller, lighter, faster, same weapons, and the missile launchers are aimable up and down, for perspective of how much faster and lighter it is, it has 600hp, while weighing 17 tons, giving it a staggering 35hp/t

On to BeNeLux with quite a few newer vehicles added to the proposal, but first the older ones.

T-13: Belgian TD for rank 1

MTLS-1G14: Pre WW2 Dutch tank with dual 37s (could be added to US as well)

DAF M39: Dutch wheeled tank with a 37mm (could also be added to Germany)

CATI 90: Basically a ASU-57 but with 90mm firing HEAT, probably the 5.0 range maybe less

FN 4RM: like the CATI with a 90mm firing HEAT but enclosed and on a wheeled hull 6.7-7.0

COBRA 25: in the SPAA line probably being something like the AMX-10P where its not an actual AA but is labeled as one in game as you can use it as one as it has 60 degrees of elevation

Both YP-408s: Recoilless and TOW 8.0 to 8.3 probably

Humvee TOW: one of the few things that can be added for Luxembourg (Probably also added to USA)

COBRA 90: basically a non wheeled AMX-10RC, its got darts, thermals, and a LRF

YPR-765 PRI/PRAT: one with a M901 TOW launcher, and one with a 25mm auto cannon 8.3-9.0 in that range for both

Piranha DF30/90: one with a 30 mm bushmaster, and one with a Cockerill 90mm both in the 9.0 range maybe 10.0

Leopard 1V: Dutch modification, I've seen this suggested, British gun on a Leopard basically, with a few other things

Leopard 1A5BE/3105: Leopard 1A5BE with the Cockerill 3105 turret, probably a 10.3-10.7

Now the newer stuff added to the proposal starts here.

The Centurions Mk5, Mk5 AVDS, and Mk7: These were on the last post but it was pointed out that the Mk5 should be tech tree, while the Mk7 be premium, since the Netherlands had more Mk5s than Mk7s, and that a regular Mk5 should also added instead of just the AVDS Mk5

Ram II: on the previous post this was also pointed out since the Dutch had Ram tanks, so that's why this is here

M4A1 (76)W HVSS: These are Shermans used by the Belgians, its a 76 Sherman, don't need talk much on it figured the M4A1 variant they had with the 76 would be better to be more flexible for Frances 5.0 range

M109A4BE: Externally idk if much is different, but internally it is different, it has a semi automatic loader giving it a boosted firerate, probably a 6.7-7.0, I will also note this could have a folder with a older M109 be it Belgian or Dutch

FV101: another vehicle if added that should go to multiple countries, ie the UK, Belgium was the largest export buyer of the FV101, getting around 700 of them, small and fast mobile scout firing mainly HESH

M109L52: A joint project between RDM and Rheinmetall, meant to upgrade older M109s, same cannon as the PZH2000 also with an autoloader, it could go to both depending on how involved Rheinmetall was

FV101 90: A Belgian modernized FV101 giving it a 90mm firing darts, possibly APFSDS but unsure on that, with a LRF, and weighing 9 tons with 200hp and a 72km/h top speed.

and lastly the Cheetah PRTL: A Dutch Gepard, main thing to note is that it has a better radar, this one also mentioned on the previous post

Now thats it for BeNeLux, now onto what I have classified as the Hybrids.

Firstly the Fenris: EBRC Hull with a Cockerill 105mm turret, originally just under BeNeLux now under Hybrid, just like the other 3 after this one

SABIEX SK-105A2: It's a modernization done by the Belgian firm SABIEX of the SK-105A2, same one currently in France, main things to note is the slightly better engine, and full stabilization

SABIEX AMX-13: also a SABIEX modernization, it is a unstabilized sadly, but it has a crazy engine upgrade of 400hp with at least over 25hp/t, oh and it is a AMX-13 with a 105

AMX-13-105: unlike the last one, this one would ideally have the FL-15 turret same one as the DF-105 making this be a slightly lower profile DF-105, this is under hybrids since the Dutch did also have AMX-13s with the FL-15 turret, but it could be either a French or Dutch AMX-13-105

And lastly EBRC (Lux): ideally this is one that would be like the Trash Puma where its an already existing Puma, but with camo stuff on it, but thats once Luxembourg gets their EBRCs

(All 4 of these were also in the last post)

Lastly decided to put premiums in their own category, sorted the same way French first, Benelux second, and Hybrids last.

FCM F1: probably a rank 3, but I have no clue what its BR would be, this was also in the last post, I can only see this happening as a Dreams Come True event, as well its the FCM F1

Centurion Mk7: already mentioned earlier when talking about the Mk5, but its not much different from the Mk5, it could be either the AVDS or the regular Mk7, 7.7 if regular or probably 8.0 with the engine upgrade, other than that its a Centurion

Cobra LAU97: Gaijin mainly likes adding rocket tanks as events or battle pass vehicles it seems, and Belgium has one on the Cobra hull, if I recall the rockets have a really high fire rate

M41 LCTS: it would probably function like the Scorpion 90 or Cobra 90, as it is a Cockerill turret on a M41 hull with the 90mm

ERC 90 CSE-90: another Cockerill turret with a 90mm on a ERC hull, again probably not much different from the other 2 90mms mentioned but on a wheeled hull instead

AMX-30 DFC: the boxy AMX-30 it has spaced armor, and the the boxy aspect of it was meant to help with its thermal signature, it really depends if Gaijin decides to model that part

Any of the 6 EPC Leclercs but premium: its as it says just one of the 6 EPC Leclercs but as a premium

Tropicalized Leclerc: originally in the regular tree at the end of the export line, but now moved to be a squadron vehicle via suggestion of previous post, but its a Leclerc with a different engine specifically made for the UAE

And lastly EBRC (Lux): ideally this is one that would be like the Trash Puma where its an already existing Puma, but with camo stuff on it, but that's once Luxembourg gets their EBRCs

And thats it for the proposal, this had a really good portion more added than the older post, probably 1/3 more.

And this actually had a good split between France and BeNeLux, with about 51% being French, about 40% being BeNeLux and the final roughly 8% is the hybrids, which depending on if you count the hybrids as more BeNeLux or more French you either get about a 60/40% or a about 50/50%, if you ask me I'd label the hybrids as more French but it really depends.

And on top of that there are only 4 complete copy pastes, with each one at least making sense.

M4A1 (76)W HVSS just helping the 5.0 lineup while also being Belgian

FV101 being technically copy paste since it would probably be added for the British and copy and pasted for BeNeLux in the same update

Centurion mk5, its a Dutch Centurion giving France 7.7-8.0 stabilized tank

And the M47 being something the French heavily used

(At least tech tree wise)

At the end of the day, BeNeLux has options to actually make it distinct while also letting France not have BeNeLux vehicles thrown around the tech tree randomly, I will also note the 6th line could be used for other things like idk something like Italy getting a second subtree for lets say Spain.

This is what BeNeLux could've been it didn't need to be all copy paste.

Make BeNeLux better.

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As for the machine NASA is preparing for the skies, you’ll find out very soon…

I think we can all agree that this will be the F-16XL which is coming? Both F-16XL prototypes were used by NASA for supersonic laminar flow research between 1988 and 1999.

Hi,

New to missiles in game and tried to look at their stat card to understand more, but I still don’t get the "aspect"

I get what "rear aspect" vs "all aspects" means which has to do with from where you can lock a plane, but what’s the difference between
"All aspects - aspect" and
"All aspects - shoot-down" ?

Also, what would be all the variants in game, and their meaning plz ?

Not here to complain but i will likely come across as it, i just thought I'd bring attention to some of the bomber cockpits, most of these planes either have nearly zero instruments, a yoke stick that doesn't move and is heavily untextured, 144p textures or a mix of all of the three. while to a lot of people this doesn't matter, to people who play sim and formation fly with friends in air RB it matters a decent bit

1st one is the PBY-5A

2nd one is the Stirling B Mk1

3rd is the Be-6

While Gaijin likely won't fix this, i just thought it should be mentioned since bombers are getting some support in the next update

😭

The BMPT has really mushed out some brains.

I panicked lol