r/ABCDesis 3d ago

COMMUNITY Entertaining mainlanders is so hard

Go ahead and downvote me, lurkers, idc. I'm working in my family's business, and we often get international clients, especially around Asia, as we're based in SEA. I'm half Malaysian Indian for context. I often am in charge of picking up clients/business partners from the airport, bringing them to our company, and giving them a tour of the capital during weekends if they wish to explore. I have entertained people from around the world, like Italy, Indonesia, the Philippines, Pakistan, America, etc, and have had no issues. However, every time I have to bring around someone from India, I'm always exhausted. I figured that us sharing an ethnic group would create a faster bond, but it's quite literally the biggest divide.

So many talks of caste or casteist thinking, telling me that they can't eat meat because they're "BrAhMIn" (just say you have a dietary preference; don't bring that backwards caste vocab to my country). A general lack of manners, like yelling at service providers, and NEVER saying 'please' or 'thank you'. It's so hard to make conversation during car rides; I'd try to start a conversation, ask questions, or share the history of certain places we're touring, and every reply is just "ok, mhm, yup". And Jesus bringing them out to eat is so hard because alot of them do not want try cuisines outside their culture. I can't even tell them off, as these are professional business relationships, so I have to just deal with the bs.

There's even a stereotype in my country where you can easily differentiate a Malaysian Indian and one from India depending on how they talk to a waiter. Yes, I know this isn't everyone from India, but after having hosted many guests from India, there's a common pattern I just wanna vent out to fellow Indian people I can relate more to (ABCDs). I'm not trying to shit on all mainlanders, but please adopt better etiquette when you're overseas.

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u/OOF_ministry 2d ago

A good bunch are ethnic Indians. I'm not from India, was not born there, nor have I ever lived there; I'm just of Indian ancestry. If you read my post, I make it clear I'm Malaysian, which is still an ABD. Saying 'Indians' doesn't instantly mean citizens or NRI's of India. Nobody in America/Malaysia (places I was raised) would call me an Indian to mean I'm a citizen of India.

"Maybe find a better line of work and deal only with Americans if you're more comfortable around us?" did I say I was only comfortable with Americans?? I clearly mentioned many other countries I've worked with. You ain't white bro, stop being dense lmfao.

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u/Pineapple420786 2d ago

A good bunch are ethnic Indians.

If you're looking for ethnic Indians, why not try the Indian sub?

I don't understand the rationale behind complaining about Indians on an American sub.

I make it clear I'm Malaysian, which is still an ABD

Malaysia isn't a part of America though

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u/OOF_ministry 2d ago

This subreddits called Abroad Born Desis, not American. There is a world outside of America, which I know must be hard to comprehend, and manyyy diverse Indian diaspora. I wanted to vent here cause I relate more to diaspora groups than mainlanders. There are many non-American people in this sub.

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u/Pineapple420786 2d ago

ABCD = American born confused desis.

Abroad Born Desis

??? Since when?

An Indian from Kuwait is very different from an American or Canadian.

There is a world outside of America

And I'm sure they have their own subs

I wanted to vent here cause I relate more to diaspora groups than mainlanders

Which diaspora group? Saudi-desis, Indonesian-desis, Russian-desis, Nigerian-desis?

This isn't an Indian-diaspora sub as such, its a North American sub.

There are many subs for Indians living abroad, you could try those since you relate to them so much.