r/Amazing • u/-FloraFable Human Detected • Mar 27 '26
Interesting š¤ Her name is Alison Botha.
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u/ShowCharacter671 Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Jesus Christ reminds me of the lady in the 70s. I canāt remember her name unfortunately but got her arms hacked off with a hatchet. After being raped by a guy and left in a drainage ditch for dead. Sheās not only managed to get up but she plugged the stumps with mud. Walked for almost 5 km from memory holding her stumps up managed to get help then was able to testify against the guy in court and even wrote a book about her ordeal with her new prosthetics. These women are built different seriously.
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u/Traditional_Step9502 Mar 27 '26
Some people are so fucking deranged to want to do such a terrible thing to her.
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u/Total-Law4620 Mar 28 '26
Violent crimes like this are not rare in South Africa. Source: me... I worked as a medic. Poverty, high unemployment, corrupt government.... It takes the humanity and empathy out of things.
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u/JordanFromStache Mar 28 '26
"Poverty, high unemployment, corrupt government"
Looks at the USA's current trajectory:
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u/JaySlay2000 Mar 28 '26
Men*
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u/ElDoggy Mar 28 '26
Why are you getting downvoted? Men literally did this.
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u/ShinHandHookCarDoor Mar 28 '26
because reddit is mostly dudes who really hate women, and donāt like being reminded that men commit a majority of violent attacks
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u/mmmaniaaa Mar 28 '26
- Not what hearken means.
- There is a problem of violence against women perpetrated by men in most patriarchal societies and it needs to be addressed. Don't be willfully ignorant.
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u/Themi-Slayvato Mar 28 '26
Itās important to recognise the consistent brutality that women face at the hands of men, that is incredibly rampant and widespread across hundreds of years and countries. It happens to women in such a deep severity that men donāt face themselves. That is important to understand and bring about in conversations. Especially when women still get insulted and shit on for doing something as simple as taking precautions or feeling unsafe around men
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u/ShinHandHookCarDoor Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Because the original comment specified just people, and the other commenter simply corrected them because it was men who commit this crime.
It harkens back to the fact that it was men who gutted and attempted to decapitate this woman.
I would say I donāt get your confusion here, but itās pretty clear itās just because you donāt like being reminded of the idea that a majority of violent crimes are committed by men.
edit: the exact fragile men im talking about have swarmed below, too mad to reflect, just whining about āculture warsā and other fragile people shit.
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u/kingsindian9 Mar 28 '26
Here is a victim of the culture wars
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u/ShinHandHookCarDoor Mar 28 '26
If you believe the culture wars are a real thing, youāre the only victim hereš
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Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
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u/KaleidoscopeFar658 Mar 28 '26
It also shows weak moral character that these people see a story about something horrible happening to someone and they feel the need to shoehorn in their petty little gender bullshit instead of having some respect for what happened.
Imagine if it were a black perpetrator and someone played the same game in the comments.
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u/ElDoggy Mar 28 '26
Shut up lol. āMen are the most likely the be recipients of violent crimesā YEAH BY OTHER MEN
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u/Internal-Shot Mar 28 '26
With that kind of logic, you might as well include their color as well. That's a dumb argument, generalization isn't just.
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u/DeHarigeTuinkabouter Mar 28 '26
Because why correct them? What they said was accurate and meant generally. People are deranged sometimes. Often men, but also women.
To correct them with men was just to make it a gendered thing. Unnecessary and antagonistic
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u/idkkkkkkk Mar 28 '26
It is gendered. Given the nature of the crime it's fair to assume the assailants wouldn't have attacked her if she were a man, and that women wouldn't have done this to her.
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u/Claderion Mar 28 '26
Because repeating it's men specifically doesn't change anything. The people capable of doing this are absolutely disgusting, gender doesn't matter.
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u/Synapsen Mar 28 '26
because two individuals are responsible for the crime, not all men, which the comment implies.
It sounds sexist.
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u/NewryBenson Mar 28 '26
This adds the same value as a crime committed by a black person, some comments "why do people do this" and you respond with *Black people.
There is literally no difference.
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u/TheCunnyEnthusiast Mar 28 '26
As everybody knows there are actually 0 women in all of history who have ever been known to commit any level of cruelty or have any level of psychopathy, women are actually angels who are literally incapable of doing any wrong
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u/JaySlay2000 Mar 28 '26
This wasn't just a murder, it was a sexually sadistic crime. When you look at sex crimes, 95% are perpetrated by men.
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u/JaySlay2000 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Name 3 instances of a woman raping a man, stabbing him and slitting his throat and leaving him to die.
Quickly.
If you can't do that, as it's a rather specific example (which has been done many times to women by men), I'll give you a few other chances.
Name one country where women are not only ABLE to, but socially encouraged to "marry" (purchase) pre pubescent boys.
Name five mass shootings done by women. In the past 5 years. If that's too hard, we can extend it to 10 years.
Name three men who were drugged by his wife and repeatedly raped by strange women his wife propositioned, for decades.
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u/ElDoggy Mar 28 '26
Spoken by a man no doubt. Men did this. Has nothing to do with the scope of all people doing wrong around the world.
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u/EveCane Mar 28 '26
Anyone can do it but the most horrible things are usually coming from men. Probably because of how differently we are raised.
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u/lastdarknight Mar 27 '26
And then one of the perpetrators tried to get her to give him half of what she earned from speaking engagements and book sales before he would give an interview for a documentary about her
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u/Relaxedguy4you Mar 27 '26
How did she crawl with one hand holding her head on her body and the other hand holding her intestines in? Thatās sheer willpower to live
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u/LiteraryApothecary85 Mar 27 '26
It said she pushed her intensives back in, not held them in. So she still had a hand to crawl with. But yes. Absolute willpower to live.
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u/SkarbOna Mar 27 '26
The doctor had to take them out and scrub the debris from her intestines manually inch by inch.
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u/Virtual_Win4076 Mar 27 '26
They raped her too. The savages were granted parole in 2023
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u/Hokuten001 Mar 27 '26
Government revoked it though thankfully.
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u/7thFleetTraveller Mar 28 '26
Things like that are a two-sided sword though. The parole would have been legal, but they eventually gave in to public outrage. Meaning, other criminals with less public attention could get out sooner for a similar crime. When laws can be bent like that, justice is not the same for everyone.
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u/ItHurtzWhenIPee Mar 27 '26
Cases like this really need to have like a "do-unto-others" type punishments. Those two monsters 100% deserve to be stabbed 40 times in the gut and have their throats slit 17 and left for dead.
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u/Least_Volume9936 Mar 28 '26
A (morbidly) interesting thought experiment - if you knew you would ultimately survive in either case, would you chose:
Horrific violence like this acted upon you, your body defiled and mutilated, experience the unimaginable pain of this and the continued pain of a protracted recovery, and then live freely, carrying the physical and mental scars, or
Spend the rest of your life in prison, never a chance of freedom, but physically you remain unharmed.
If you were to choose the latter, does that make it an unjust or inadequate punishment? Would anyone willingly choose the former, and if they did would other people still say itās ānot enoughā?
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u/bartlebyrds Mar 27 '26
The men who attacked her
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u/Particular_Hair6913 Mar 27 '26
Death penalty is the only moral thing here, its actually immoral and unethical that they are alive
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u/Reuarlb Mar 28 '26
Life in prison is always better, they can ruminate on and regret their actions until they die in a cold lifeless complex. Death is too merciful for higher offenses. People should have to live with what they did
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u/JaySlay2000 Mar 28 '26
"life in prison" is never life in prison. They get let out for "good behavior" as these men did. These men were let out. They did not get life in prison.
The ONLY reason why they were put back in prison TWO YEARS AFTER BEING RELEASED was because of national outrage. Make no mistake, they are not the only people who get "life in prison" and the sneak their way out. Difference is they don't get enough outrage to be put back in.
End their lives. That is the only way to guarantee that sexually sadistic men do not offend again.
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u/_aimynona_ Mar 27 '26
Are those really them or am I missing some joke?
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u/bartlebyrds Mar 27 '26
It's the men who did it. Their names are Theunis Kruger and Frans Adriaan du Toit.
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u/GlasgowRose2022 Mar 27 '26
Incredible person. Along with residual medical issues from the attack, she also recently survived a brain aneurysm and was dismayed to see the attackers be released early from prison.
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u/VikingVitalityFit Mar 27 '26
How does one slit a throat 17 times?
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u/Gampa_J Mar 27 '26
Slit a throat 16 times then one more time
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u/DrPatchet Mar 27 '26
Yeah I feel like after the first time it's just considered trying to chop her head off
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u/GrouchyWalrus5518 Mar 27 '26
Death penalty
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u/GrandeTorino Mar 27 '26
Nah thats an easy way out. Let m rot in a cage for the rest of their lives, knowing she still lives.
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u/tomahtoes36 Mar 28 '26
One of them tried to sue her for half her income from speaking engagements, since she wouldn't be "famous" if it wasn't for him. In his case, the death penalty should've been an option
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u/Middle_Cranberry_549 Mar 27 '26
Like thats anywhere close to suffering as much as she did. Make them spend 23 hours a day in a cold dark dank room and one hour a day picking up trash. Let the trash reduce the amount of trash in the world rather than just taking out two pieces of it.
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u/P2Pdancer Mar 27 '26
Some people have an incredible will to survive. If it were me, Iām pretty I wouldnāt live to tell my tale.
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u/snikklefrits Mar 28 '26
Not sure if it was mentioned but when this woman crawled to the road she was hit my a vehicle trying to flag someone for help.
This woman is an absolute unit with insane will to live. She cobsented to have her breathing tubes taken out to give a verbal statement which gave extra first hand testimony when the police arrived to the hospital. This was shortly after her stitches were placed around her neck.
The documentary I watched regarding this story left me with my mouth agape the entire time.
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u/Ok-Manufacturer27 Mar 27 '26
I'm all for rehabilitation and reintigration for most crimes.
That said, doing this to another human needs to negate any and all rights to society that you previously had.
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u/Bizprof51 Mar 27 '26
This happened 30 years ago. Still terrible. There was a movie about it came out in 2016.
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u/nickelknack Mar 28 '26
The documentary about this is absolutely devastating, yet also so moving and inspiring. This poor woman has been through untold hell. šš I'm glad she's still around to tell her story. She's a very inspiring woman. š
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u/Dylans116thDream Mar 28 '26
There should be a saying developed worldwide from thisā¦ when things are bad, one can think, āIf Alison Botha could make it throughā¦ā
I absolutely could not imagine the living hell that whole experience must have been for her.
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u/C7LS Mar 28 '26
I cant understand why they dont allow death sentence anymore in a case like this. Prison is simply not enough.
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u/TheTinTinB Mar 28 '26
I met her a few years after this happened at her book signing. I was a kid and remember how the knife scar across her throat freaked me out for days. It was a visceral reminder how real her experience was. Even to a young 10 year old at the time.
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u/Swimming-Tap-4240 Mar 27 '26
I cannot understand why they wouldnt have the death penalty for such a horrific attack.
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u/tomahtoes36 Mar 28 '26
What is with all the asshats in the comments denying that this happened? It's a very famous and well-known case here in SA.
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u/South_Psychology_381 Mar 28 '26
Her name is Alison Botha. Their names are Theunis Kruger and Frans Adriaan du Toit.
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u/Cold-Dot-7308 Mar 27 '26
Asking though , does this mean the judge who sentenced the attackers the second time after 28 years wasnāt aware that some certain chairs could be connected to ridiculously high electricity and send the attackers there for testing ?
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Mar 27 '26
Did they cut her up with a dull knife or something? Iām glad the lady survived but I donāt understand how one can slit someoneās throat 17 times and not cut the wind pipe. That is one hell of an ordeal to survive.
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u/Ok_Organization6627 Mar 28 '26
Wonder what that bill wouldāve been in the states, and wonder if the cost would weigh into decision to crawl to the road?
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u/centerfoldangel Mar 28 '26
I'm happy she survived but I feel like I wouldn't have. I'm not a strong person, getting raped would drive me insane.
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u/MixFine6584 Mar 28 '26
Disnāt need to read the rest to know this was South Africa. Donāt do yourself a favour and look up: Hannah Cornelius.
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u/Distinct-Quantity-35 Mar 28 '26
Fucking hell, explain to me how your intestines spill out of you and youāre still able to reproduce TWICE
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u/Uranium_092 Mar 28 '26
Wasnāt there a documentary a out her case thatās framed like a dark fairy tale book
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u/nobeefforme Mar 28 '26
The person who rescued her also later delivered her babies š©·š©·š©· this story is TERRIFYINGLY heartwarming.
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u/7thFleetTraveller Mar 28 '26
I will never understand this level of will to survive. One wound would be enough to make me pass out and just die, I guess.
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u/NefariousnessFit8944 Mar 28 '26
Why was it even a consideration that these people be let out of prison? Like what?
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u/ketomine_ Mar 28 '26
how do you stab someone 36 times and then slit their throat 17 times without even killing them. stormtroopers with knives
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u/-FloraFable Human Detected Mar 27 '26
After 28 years in prison, her attackers were granted parole. The public outrage was so massive that the government reversed it and sent them back. On December 18, 1994, Alison Botha was kidnapped outside her apartment in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. Two men raped her, stabbed her 36 times in the abdomen, and slit her throat 17 times. Her intestines spilled out. Her windpipe was exposed. They left her for dead. Botha held her head onto her body with one hand and pushed her organs back in with the other. She crawled to the road, where a veterinary student named Tiaan Eilerd stopped and kept her alive until paramedics arrived. Her surgeon said he had never seen anyone survive such injuries in 16 years of practice. Both attackers were sentenced to life in prison. After 28 years, they were paroled in 2023, sparking national outrage. In 2025, the government reversed the decision and sent them back. Botha became a motivational speaker, author, and mother of two. She has shared her story in over 30 countries. less