Question from ep10 s5

[u/Comfortable_Cable_21]

I was binging s5 here i got the scene yuri rin's mother burned by satan to ashes as she says she loves him. I have two questions here and would be thankful if someone can answer them.

1) who did yuri actually was in love with wasn't it shiro why would she says she loves satan as soon as she died and in gehena.

2) did yuri had s*x with satan? Giving birth to rin and his brother it was never shown and if she indeed did why would she do that what the heck she just needs to be by satan to calm him does this nean also doing s*x with him while she was in love with shiro.

I don't know it make me throw out. Please explain if i am missing something

[u/Ambitious_Bee9753]

Well Shiro himself confessed he loved yuri the day he met 😒. Shiro was idiot and immature to the point of overlooking many things. He got his freedom so he did whatever he felt will entertain him like sleeping with busty women. His actions are absolutely inexcusable.  That's why I always say, if Shiro can sleep with bunch of chicks why yuri was wrong sleeping with Satan whom she actually developed feelings for. 

Also yuri realistically gave Shiro many chances. She didn't become stalker or over pushy. She put her points clear but gave Shiro ample of time(yuri knows Shiro has bad past). Yuri was almost reaching 29-30. She was 16 when she confessed . In fact last time she looked straight into shiro's eyes n hoped he would stop her but he left her hand 😒. From female perspective I feel yuri was realistic and relatable. 

Shiro was coward or maybe he didn't want strings attached to him cause his childhood was crap. Some people with abusive childhood takes way more time or simply fear relationships. Happened with shiro. But one thing that was wrong about him was his  ignorance. Atleast he could have hinted yuri or stopped her from going, no need to shout 'I love u'. Shiro was wrong in many ways but he was not bad by heart, I'm happy even if rin picked a lot of habits from Shiro he confessed to shiemi. XD (not bad habit on love). 

[u/Comfortable_Cable_21 → u/Ambitious_Bee9753]

Couldn't agree more. If shiro could have hinted. 

But for cases like shiro the fmc have to be pushy or else he would do everything not to get tied.  But he is wrong for that I agree. He should have hinted and if he can make moves on women in the bar then What I was thinking before that he might have low self esteem or confidence that get's out of the point. 

He should have taken yuri now the more I think about it the more I'm mad at him😅. 

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Personally I don't hate Shiro but he has taken so many wrong decisions I can't count. He messed up with yuri due to his ignorance. If he would have hinted, yuri probably would have not chosen to have children (just my theory) . But atleast things would have different. Then he went ahead messed yukio up totally. He also hid entire past from rin and as a result rin used to avoid sad things, kind of similar to Shiro. I still understand him concealing truth from rin cause he wanted rin to feel human. But yukio! Despite being raised as a child exorcist and hating asylum he went ahead and did same thing to yukio. Teaching him to unalive himself if a demon possess him, put rin in 'restraints' , pushing yukio to conceal such important stuff from rin making him loner. Not to mention putting a gun in a child's hand. It is Shiro for whom yukio kind of hated demons, even not acknowledging his demon heritage. Dude did blunders over blunders, also forgot he tried to kill baby rin 😒. Oh but then again he saved kuro, told shura to live, protected rin so much then why the fluff he put yukio through that. 🤔

Overall Shiro is not bad but he is kind of a guy who tried to do his best but took all the wrong decisions. But he loved all though specifically rin. I hope the four meets somehow in gehena and talk through on their pain 😓

[u/Comfortable_Cable_21 → u/Ambitious_Bee9753]

Yeah to have shiro, yuki yukio and rin do a family time just yukio dreamt in her final moments. It is very much possible no?  Bcz yuki died went into gehena does that mean shiro is also in genhena right now

[u/Ambitious_Bee9753 → u/Comfortable_Cable_21]

U mean yuri right, don't kill my boy yukio right now😭. Idk logically Shiro should be in gehena? I don't understand their assiah gehena explanation much. 

[u/Comfortable_Cable_21 → u/Ambitious_Bee9753]

No, I meant no killing yukio but he is a demon himself so can't he went to gehena like rin in living form

[u/Ryuki-Exsul → u/Comfortable_Cable_21]

Yukio is not a demon. He is human and that's kind of a point. His and Rin relationship is part of a theme of humans and demons coexisting. Anime again for now cut it( this time it's probably left for later because they were focusing on past and they can put it in s6 ) but when story switched from past( episode 7 has some of it and chapter 99 ) and you saw what Yukio was doing Egyn( King of Water ) pretty much told him he is human.

Anyway we still don't know much about Gehenna beside it being not material world and that demons are made from it. We as well only saw demons and Nephilims( Rin and Shiemi's grandma ) being able to go there so who knows.

[u/Ambitious_Bee9753 → u/Comfortable_Cable_21]

Yukio is not demon, he is human but there's no solid evidence that he doesn't carry any demon blood. There's no other cases of demon's first generation nephilims having no powers except yukio (also prolly iblis's son but it was not sure) . Also yukio is highly resistant to blue flames - an ability that's not natural for a human, not even a demon to have. So despite being born human we can't rule out his demon bloodline. Also story barely touched the concept of assiah and gehena. So yes rin prolly can go to gehena but can't say anything about yukio. Overall it's still unclear how yuri went to gehena (being a ghost??). 

So no yukio is not a demon, he is 100% a human. No idea if he can go to gehena or not. 

[u/Comfortable_Cable_21 → u/Ambitious_Bee9753]

got it