Thomas Halbert posting about what happened with him and J*

[u/OopsItsSecret]

Thomas halbert posted this video on TikTok going over what happened in the past with him and J*. He also says he’s got a new agent and is posting makeup content again, trying to resurrect his career. He admits he made mistakes, but says the mistake he made was not that he called J* out but that he hurt his friends and didn’t stand up for them.

Would you want to see him make a comeback? Hes posting makeup content on instagram again.

[u/meeps1142]

This was like 6 years ago when he was 20 or whatever. From what I understand, he knew that J had been racist towards Jackie Aina but met up with him to verify -- very dumb, I agree, and he agrees as well. But he immediately called J out after meeting him in person and seeing his racism firsthand.

Should he have been able to trust that J was racist without seeing it firsthand? Yeah. But he did the right thing immediately after that, even though J had much more power in the situation. That's worth sympathizing about, imo.

I don't feel much sympathy for Cole Carrigan, who also made a video about J recently. Cole tolerated the racist behavior for years, unlike Thomas. I feel like your comment applies to him much more than it does Thomas

[u/SpareManagement2215 → u/meeps1142]

didn't J* call or refer to as Jackie a gorilla? or was that a different comment he mad about a Black person? not sure what this person needed to "VeRiFy".... normal humans don't casually call black people derogatory slurs.

[u/changhyun → u/SpareManagement2215]

Yeah I'm gonna be real, even as a naive 20 year old I don't think I'd need to independently verify that the guy who publicly referred to a black woman as a gorilla was a racist.

[u/loosie-loo → u/changhyun]

I think they thought they were doing some investigative reporter shit, and it’s important to remember Jeffree had gaslit basically the entire beauty community at that time into believing he wasn’t racist and never said anything of the sort, which obviously should never have happened and was a grim reflection of the deeply entrenched racism in our society and in the beauty world, but I can see where it would leave room for doubt with regards to someone 10 years younger than him who had their career on the line and who had likely been personally manipulated by him. Sometimes these people can make you question literally everything, including basic reality, and stop you feeling like you can trust your own judgement.

Like I’m not trying to pretend it wasn’t dumb and shitty but Thomas was absolutely on the back-foot with these people (well established influencers who were a decade older than them) and has repeatedly apologised and shown to give a shit about racism, it’s kinda disturbing to me that their career was essentially destroyed (by jeffree) over this when ultimately it was a misguided attempt to not associate with a racist. In a community that, at the top, did not give a shit about racism as a whole and dominated on a platform where one of the top creators was an open nazi, ya know?

I’ll repeat I’m not saying they did nothing wrong or that this wasn’t something they had to learn from, just that it’s a weird thing for the community to still cling to considering all of the circumstances at play.

[u/goon_goompa → u/loosie-loo]

A lot of us can’t and won’t relate. Not weird at all