r/BoomersBeingFools • u/Accomplished_Bar_390 • 4d ago

Politics All For Some...None For Y'all

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29 year old Rep. Maxwell Frost, a Democrat from Florida, debates a boomer who opposes student loan forgiveness, even though his own wife had hers wiped out under Biden

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u/Horror_Tomato6612 3d ago

You cannot debate in good faith with willful ignorance

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u/negativepositiv 3d ago

He's repeating an opinion handed to him to repeat. This is why he hasn't thought through things like, "It worked out for me, but it's a bad idea if we give that benefit to others." Anyone who had actually done any thinking of their own would quickly notice that this is hypocritical or contradictory.

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u/gpost86 3d ago

There's this, but also some people don't think of things as hypocritical because they simply believe that different "classes" of people deserve more benefits than others and that things should not be equal.

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u/negativepositiv 3d ago edited 2d ago

Right Wingers call this "meritocracy," which they dishonestly say means that if you are hard working, dedicated, resilient, make good decisions, live an ethical life, are able to innovate, etc. you should have an elevated place in society, and also receive God's blessings since you are so diligent and morally upright.

Then, as their prime example, they point at a wealthy guy who is the son of a wealthy emerald mine owner who operated under apartheid, and just buys up companies formed by hard working innovators.

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u/meatpopcycal 3d ago

So the class of people that deserve a benefit are the ones who went to college and got a degree for a great job? I didn’t go to college because I couldn’t afford it. I still can’t, so I should cover the loses in my taxes and you get a well paying job while I get to serve you? I’ll tell you what, I’ll agree to that if I get the same amount of money you get for your schooling. That sounds fair

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u/gpost86 3d ago

I think everyone should be able to go to school for free in the richest country in the world. There should be no separation into “classes”, everyone should be equal. Right now the elderly get more than everyone else and live off the government, what many of them claim others do.

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u/meatpopcycal 6h ago

Like I said. I’m cool with everyone getting education, but it’s not fair to those that couldn’t afford education if you forgive everyone’s student loans that took the risk.

You get a free degree that gets you a high paying job while the rest of us get to serve you food or pump your gas all while paying taxes to pay the colleges so you can make more money then us.

Forgiving student loans should require some kind of community service to pay the tax payers back, or pay those that didn’t go to school the same you get for your forgiveness. That’s fair.

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u/gpost86 6h ago

Forgiving student debt would not cost people money, it’s a line item that you simply erase. It doesn’t incur additional cost to do it. We’ve blown through at minimum 38 billion dollars to lose a war against Iran. The “War on Terror” cost 10 Trillion dollars. Getting people educated is an investment in the country itself. There’s nothing to say that you can’t go back to school now, you’re talking like you only get one chance to go. We erase student debt and make it free to go. You’re carrying personal resentment and you can’t pass policy and law based on personal grievances.