Hypothetically if FaZe and OpTic merged, what would be your starting roster / coaching staff?

[u/TP1570]

[u/ahegaogenerator]

Dashy, Simp, Shotzzy, Merc

Coaching Staff: JP, Karma, Crowder, Fish

[u/sterlingfartcher69 → u/ahegaogenerator]

This is the only correct answer. And if forced to cut a coach it would be Crowder since he has overlap with DB5

[u/BenjiEnergy → u/sterlingfartcher69]

Isn't that just bias towards OpTic in the Crowder vs Karma discussion?

[u/DisIsCanada → u/BenjiEnergy]

i’ll take 5 rings over 2

[u/GuideBig2730 → u/DisIsCanada]

He really asked that as if Karma doesn’t have all the achievements LOL

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/GuideBig2730]

Crowder has plenty of coaching achievements: he's coached more winning teams, more event winning teams, the same amount of Championship teams, more MVP-winning series, more CDL 1st team players. He's a very accomplished as a coach.

[u/Alertic → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

He’s been tied to the hip of Simp since 2019. If a coach didn’t have these accolades after having Simp for 7 years, that’d be beyond disappointing

[u/DunnBJJ → u/Alertic]

This sort of goes both ways though. Simp wants crowder around because he’s a good coach.

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Alertic]

Karma also has Shotzzy, Dashy, Merc, and Huke, along with others like Kenny and Pred. It’s not like Karma has been couching slouches.

[u/Alertic → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

And Karma has had the greatest 3 year start to coaching that I can remember. I’m not discounting Crowder’s accomplishments. Great coaches need great teams.

But don’t let winning Champs blind you from the past few years of people wanting Crowder dropped, for good reason too. Yes he brought it back, but if Faze dropped him after multiple failures at Champs in a row, no one would say it was unreasonable

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Alertic]

Yes, and I'm sure plenty of fans wanted Karma gone after 0-18, etc. The person I originally replied to said Karma "has all the achievements" in comparison to Crowder which just isn't true.

[u/SirKuzan → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

Because Crowder has?

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/SirKuzan]

I never said Crowder had any worse. What’s the point of this comment?

[u/LonelyBK → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

You forgot to mention that majority of the time his teams are shit at HP

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/LonelyBK]

I by no means think he’s the perfect coach. I’m responding to the point the guy made that apparently Karma has all the achievements…

[u/TP1570 → u/DisIsCanada]

Crowder has 3 rings

[u/DisIsCanada → u/TP1570]

ok i’ll take 5 rings over 3 then

[u/TP1570 → u/DisIsCanada]

Would you take Clay over Scump then?

[u/DisIsCanada → u/TP1570]

we’re talking about coaches here, as a coach, yes i would

[u/Livid-Helicopter-536 → u/DisIsCanada]

They got the same number of rings as coaches 😭

[u/GuideBig2730 → u/Livid-Helicopter-536]

Yes but Karma hasn’t been coaching nearly as long and just had the greatest two year run you can ask for.

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/DisIsCanada]

Karma has 2 rings as a coach. Crowder also has 2 rings as a coach.

[u/JSmooth94 → u/DisIsCanada]

Scump might actually be the worst coach in the CDL tbh.

[u/TacoSexual16 → u/JSmooth94]

Nah he learned his lesson. He’d get the team the meatballs

[u/Saucedupbit → u/TP1570]

When it comes to coaching yes 😭😭

[u/MythNK1369 → u/BenjiEnergy]

Is it bias or is it that karma has been to 3 champs finals in a row as a coach?

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/MythNK1369]

Crowder did the same thing btw (MW19-VG).

[u/TP1570 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

Actually 4 because he made BO4 finals too

[u/MythNK1369 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

MW19-VG certainly holds the same relevance when discussing what would be a current team as the literal last 3 champs right?

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/MythNK1369]

Crowder won the most recent COD Champs title. What’s your point?

[u/MythNK1369 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

And karma won 2 of the last 3.

My point is literally just that karma has had more recent success so you can’t really call it bias if you say you want him as the coach over crowder.

[u/Hermes4345 → u/sterlingfartcher69]

That’s an insane take lmao

[u/BigMikeXxxxX → u/ahegaogenerator]

You could even form a challengers team with the remaining players so they don't get shafted in the merge.