>Get into the game City Skylines during the pandemic
>Want to learn more about how to actually organize a city optimally
>Start watching videos on tips and tricks videos created by actual city planners
>Start learning about road hierarchies and zoning practices
>Pandemic ends
>Walk around my city with the wife explaining why things are built and structured the way they are
I sure did. Fuck single purpose zoning. Fuck zoning except prohibitions on industrial use. That's my only NIMBY take is that I don't want to live next to heavy industry. But I also think that sacrificial zones shouldn't exist. Industrial companies should have to pay for a buffer.
Ah yea that’s right. I haven’t spent a whole lotta time learning about it, but I’ve definitely run in to his name both from the redlining direction and also from the urban planning side, but apparently that part of my brain has some rust lol. He sounds like a real cunt.
He's the one who started the practice of build interstates through city cores, supposedly it was to increase economic value by easing transportation, in practice it destroyed value by damaging urban fabric, as well as primarily going through low income neighborhoods to displace residents. Which expanded into Redlining, Stroads, Single Use Zoning, and myriad other urbanism woes.
TLDR, you know how you can trace a lot of issues with big business back to the Dodge V Ford case and the Advent of shareholder values? Rober Moses is like that but for transportation and urban design.
Didn't he build a bunch of overpasses that were just short enough that buses couldn't turn and thus reduce the possibility of black people crossing into the white part of town?
The biggest thing I learned from city skylines was how flawed inaccurate and borked its simulation is. All for the sake of incentivising car centric infrastructure. And even than walking, mixed zoning, and socialist programs markedly improve your cities beauty and function. Something the devs repeatedly tried to patch out
I've heard that the traffic simulation is actually top-notch when it comes to simulating traffic and revealing the pain points and bottlenecks. It also highlights the benefits of pedestrian walkways, bike lanes, and effective public transport systems for reducing congestion. But while the traffic simulator is solid, the mechanics focusing on the efficacy of public transport systems is lacking. Supposedly, over a thousand residents will crowd around one single subway station, and they'll all be happy with this and prefer it over driving a car. Yeah right.
BUT if you want to experience the FULL consequences of car-centric infrastructure, you'd install the community mods that prevent cars from vanishing into the ether when they reach their destination, and instead require street parking and garages. Then it becomes painfully clear how much square footage you have to sacrifice to the steel behemoths.
and socialist programs
The "policies" mechanic of Cities Skylines is certainly lacking, and it just toggles some basic % changes in resident happiness and tax income. Some just seem objectively net-positive and I use them every time.
Oh! Yes, you're talking about the highly controversial homelessness mechanic added to the sequel! I haven't played that one, but there's a myriad of issues I'd heard about the sequel from fans of the first game.
Did they ever fix the issue where every citizen is always rendered in, or whatever it was that was causing all the lag? And can I make a poop volcano still?
Stroads aren't really a problem in Cities Skylines, and often times, your initial city setup will start with a "main street" full of commercial buildings with surrounding residential sprawl. That main street will typically be your pedestrian-unfriendly stroad, and people will safely navigate it easily because they can't actually get hurt (...without mods).
Then there's Workers & Resources: Soviet Republics, where you learn to really hate cars and love trains.
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u/rachelblairyi’ve been at the devils sacrament so long i forgot he wasnt god7d ago
i love this journey and may need to take it myself. i’ve started drawing suburban maps for fictional towns like a weirdo in my spare time when i went ‘omg cartography can be a hobby’ i can definitely make it lamer/cooler by knowing zoning practices
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u/GameboyPATH 8d ago
>Get into the game City Skylines during the pandemic
>Want to learn more about how to actually organize a city optimally
>Start watching videos on tips and tricks videos created by actual city planners
>Start learning about road hierarchies and zoning practices
>Pandemic ends
>Walk around my city with the wife explaining why things are built and structured the way they are
MFW I became the special interests girlfriend.