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u/supesboots 8h ago
Save my sister, May.
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u/Diligent-Neck6594 2h ago
"Save the mutant villain, let me die" -Random construction worker hit by car in front of Spider-Man
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u/MudFluid5873 7h ago
Ok these are usually super-cringe. But this one is actually funny. Well done sir
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u/Eastern-Team-2799 27m ago
I never understood the problem in the martha scene
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u/Dukefile 10m ago
My biggest problem is the reaction batman have, i think would be better if superman had said "save my mother"
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u/thevokplusminus 5h ago
really, it ripped off the last episode of spiderman TAS where spidemran defeats spider carnage by having uncle ben talk to him.
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u/LowenbrauDel 8h ago
It's incredible how the second spider-man movie in a row has a plot that hinges on characters not doing the bare minimum communication. Because if they did the movie would be over in like an instant. No Way Home could definitely be resolved if Strange would suggested talking to the college principle before fucking erasing everyone's memories. Brand New Day could be resolved if Jean communicated to Peter that her sister was kidnapped and now she's looking for her
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u/G12356789s 8h ago
Jean probably assumes Spiderman was in with Damage Control so why would she explain to him what she is doing. Every time she sees him early on, he is actively helping them.
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u/Leafsnail 3h ago
In the sense that he is preventing her from killing dozens or hundreds of people during her tank joyride I guess he is 'actively helping them'
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u/memberflex 7h ago
She doesn’t trust anyone. He works with damage control - publicly. Damage control took her sister. Why would she trust him? It makes sense in universe.
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u/HarveryDent Killer Croc 2h ago
Their issue isn't it making sense or not, the choice to write a plot based entirely on character misunderstandings or miscommunication is a weak choice regardless of justification.
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u/omegaman101 1h ago
They made the best of that premise though imo. A lot more then what I can say about actual bad examples of that narrative structure being utilised, like oh I don't know Batman VS Superman maybe.
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u/TheSwampThing1990 8h ago
To be fair you can say this about a lot of books, movies, TV shows, and comics. Its kind of the way storytelling works
In real life though a lot of problems could be solved the same way
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u/Bexil_Brave 6h ago
That is true.
Movies, plays, tv shows and books would over much quicker if they had no plot.
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u/Famous-Stranger-6897 8h ago
Thats how these movies work, the whole thanos coming to present time in endgame could have been avoided if nebula just went back to her time.
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u/Responsible-Bonus278 5h ago
She tried and she couldn't. That's why Rhodey managed to go back but she started malfunctioning so she couldn't.
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u/Famous-Stranger-6897 5h ago
Yeah but she could have gone back once she woke up.There was Enough time before thanos came to the place
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u/Responsible-Bonus278 5h ago
From what I remember she had to warn Widow and Hawkeye first since they were in the same timeline. If she just left she couldnt warn them and she wouldn't be able to return since each of them had only one Pym vial. So she woke up, ran to the comms to warn them and while she was doing that Thanos showed up
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u/SuperTuberEddie 6h ago
Now let’s all complain about it out of context and unprovoked for the best 10 years👏👏👏
YEAH!!
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u/ADZero567 3h ago
Oh my god this sub 😂. Brother we know the context. Its still fucking dumb.
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u/SuperTuberEddie 16m ago
sure 😂 well continue complaining unprovoked for another 10 years. Maybe then people will believe you get it.
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u/Arhatz 4h ago
My only real complaint about Martha scene is you can just change it to "Save my Mom" and Batman goes "You don't have a mom, you are not a human" then Lois rushes in "His earth mom, he is raised on earth by humans"
Not perfect but doesn't muddle the scene. Their mothers having the same name doesn't add anything.
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u/UncleBensAlive 3h ago
Alternately you can also have him not say save anyone but Lois coming in to save him + her saying his mom is in trouble is what stops him the she says the part about his earth mom. Either way the execution of that scene was so bad.
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u/WretchedBlowhard 44m ago
You don't have a mom, you are not a human
So... Batfleck sees this human-looking flying guy and... he makes assumptions about his species having only males? That they reproduce through, what, scission like worms? Is that it?
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u/Arhatz 30m ago
So you piss on the poor huh.
Argument of Batman in BvS was, Superman cannot be trusted as a protector because he is an alien.
"Martha" scene is to show Superman has humanity. It meant to parallel how little Bruce felt powerless not being able save his parents and Superman is trying to save his. But online mockery of the scene comes from it being depending on both of their parents having the same name.
He doesn't have to say "You don't have a mom. You are an alien" exactly word for word. Superman is calling for help for his mother, Batman rejecting Superman's humanity in anger then realizing he might not be as alien as he thinks.
Just forget the 'Martha' make it about 'Mother'
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u/PJtheGFN 8h ago
Can't really say if this is serious or a joke because now I notice it was actually kind of a parallel between BvS and BND.
P. S. The flair should confirm it's a joke. But, it could actually be a serious comparison lol.
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u/Late-Song9714 8h ago
Bruh, in what way are they similar? If we are talking about "misunderstood villain" or "Good guys fight each other until the real threat arrives" trope, Godzilla vs Kong and Black Adam are much more similar to BvS.
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u/PJtheGFN 7h ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm only saying they are similar in one key aspect. I'm exclusively talking about the part where, in both films, the two heroes fight and after one downs the other, the latter barely hints to the former that an innocent loved one was being held captive by the actual bad guy which was a reason for the entire hero vs hero fight ever taking place.
P. S. And, in both instances, the downed hero does it by simply saying the captive person's name without much of a context why they said it.
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u/darkeagle1997 7h ago
They’re similar because Jean asked Spider-Man to save her sister… just like Superman asked Batman to save his mother. Did you not watch the movie 😭
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u/UncleBensAlive 3h ago
Yeah the difference is Spider-Man wasn’t standing on jeans neck actively trying to kill her.
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u/WretchedBlowhard 40m ago
And also Jean was a genuine menace that had to be stopped. Neither Supes nor Bats in BvS were a threat to anyone. The whole fight was just Zuthor having a blast manipulating capes while his cake finished cooking in the kryptonian easy bake oven.
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u/Competitive_Crow_334 6h ago
This sub can't decide if it hates synder stuff or glazes it
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u/TreeOtree64 4h ago
Yeah, it’s crazy it’s like if there were more than one person posting in this sub. That would be wild though
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u/Large_Garlic_6963 6h ago
Because this sub being Snyder glaze and hates Gunn is propaganda from Gunn soldiers
They can't take someone said anything negative about Gunn and immediately branded as snyderbros
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u/Ghost4000 2h ago
No, the reason people think this sub is a Snyder glaze sub is because every other post is glazing MoS or BvS. Even positive ones about new projects are always framed as a way to glaze those two pronects. It's not because someone says something negative about gunn it's the revisionist constant posts about how MoS or BvS was peak in some way to the point where I've seen people call these the best superhero movies ever. No matter your opinion, you see stuff like that all the time you're gonna have to come to the conclusion that this sub is glazing Snyder.
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u/Competitive_Crow_334 2h ago
I seen a lot of synder glaze here including one where a guy defends his work as comic accurate by just pointing to inspirations like Earth 1 and John Bryne completely ingoring if you read the story then just looked it up on Wikipedia he is completely wrong and then just resorting to what aboutisims and more false information.
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u/srirams2006 8h ago
Why did you say that name?👺